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Créé par: CanesQue
Date de création initiale: 13 juin 2021
Publié: 15 juin 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bean, Jake21 500 000 $
Svechnikov, Andrei26 500 000 $
Nedeljkovic, Alex22 500 000 $
Patrick, Nolan21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Hakanpää, Jani21 500 000 $
McGinn, Brock22 200 000 $
Hamilton, Dougie78 000 000 $
Savard, David34 000 000 $
Goodrow, Barclay32 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
CAR
SEA
  1. Foegele, Warren [Droits de RFA]
  2. Gardiner, Jake
  3. Choix de 2021 ronde en 7e (CAR)
  4. Choix de 2022 ronde en 6e (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Expansion Draft deal
2.
CAR
  1. Patrick, Nolan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Rubtsov, German
  3. Choix de 2021 ronde en 1e (PHI)
PHI
  1. Hamilton, Dougie
Détails additionnels:
Sign and trade
3.
CAR
  1. Killorn, Alex
TBL
  1. Choix de 2021 ronde en 2e (CAR)
4.
CAR
  1. Korpisalo, Joonas
CBJ
  1. Choix de 2022 ronde en 3e (CAR)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2021
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Logo de STL
2022
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Logo de ANA
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Logo de CBJ
2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $77 173 583 $0 $537 500 $4 326 417 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Svechnikov, Andrei
6 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Aho, Sebastian
8 460 250 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Teräväinen, Teuvo
5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Niederreiter, Nino
5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Trocheck, Vincent
4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Necas, Martin
863 333 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
Killorn, Alex
4 450 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Staal, Jordan
6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Fast, Jesper
2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Goodrow, Barclay
2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 6
Patrick, Nolan
1 500 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
McGinn, Brock
2 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Slavin, Jaccob
5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Pesce, Brett
4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Nedeljkovic, Alex
2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Skjei, Brady
5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Savard, David
4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
Korpisalo, Joonas
2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Bean, Jake
1 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Hakanpää, Jani
1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
Lorentz, Steven
725 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1

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15 juin 2021 à 1 h 23
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Savard is worse than Gardiner, yet you're paying Seattle to take Gardiner and actively employing Savard...?

Also, you're not getting Nolan Patrick for Hamilton extended. Philadelphia can just offer that in free agency, the entire point of the sign and trade would be an 8 year deal.
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15 juin 2021 à 1 h 44
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why aren't the Canes doing everything they can to keep Dougie??
15 juin 2021 à 3 h 48
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Philly declines.
15 juin 2021 à 8 h 14
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I get the concept but the Dougie deal would be an 8 yr one. That’s the main point of the sign and trade.

Also - at this point you can just re-sign Dougie with the cap space you have and the money you spent on Savard. I’d say that’s money well spent versus taking a huge downgrade defensively.
15 juin 2021 à 8 h 37
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Quoting: NoWah49
why aren't the Canes doing everything they can to keep Dougie??


Because he is complimentary piece not a core piece. Take Slavin away and he is middle pair defender. The team wants to pay him like Krug not like Pietrangelo (who is a better defender). Also years 6-8 will undoubtedly be a cap suck.
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15 juin 2021 à 8 h 46
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You will be lucky to get a 3rd for compensation in a sign and trade. Honestly, if i'm the Flyers, I am fine with just signing the 7 year deal and not giving the Canes anything. That takes Hamilton until he is 34 and who knows what type of decline could happen by then.
15 juin 2021 à 8 h 56
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
You will be lucky to get a 3rd for compensation in a sign and trade. Honestly, if I'm the Flyers, I am fine with just signing the 7 year deal and not giving the Canes anything. That takes Hamilton until he is 34 and who knows what type of decline could happen by then.


Don't think there's any Flyers fans/Fletcher who wouldn't take 7 years over 8, but Hamilton is going to be heavily coveted and it may take a little extra discomfort to guarantee acquiring him. This package is too much, but if Carolina's ask is a 1st and if we didn't pull the trigger on that then it would be highly likely he'd end up somewhere else... lets just say there are WAY worst ways to spend a 1st round pick than bringing in a top 5 RHD in hockey for 8 years
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15 juin 2021 à 9 h 15
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Don't think there's any Flyers fans/Fletcher who wouldn't take 7 years over 8, but Hamilton is going to be heavily coveted and it may take a little extra discomfort to guarantee acquiring him. This package is too much, but if Carolina's ask is a 1st and if we didn't pull the trigger on that then it would be highly likely he'd end up somewhere else... lets just say there are WAY worst ways to spend a 1st round pick than bringing in a top 5 RHD in hockey for 8 years


I agree that getting Hamilton is huge but at the price of 13OA for what is basically his rights is where I become hesitant. CAR should not be getting TDL type of returns when they let their guy become a UFA. If we want to give them a 2nd or trade a conditional pick so be it but not a top 15 1st.
15 juin 2021 à 9 h 18
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I agree that getting Hamilton is huge but at the price of 13OA for what is basically his rights is where I become hesitant. CAR should not be getting TDL type of returns when they let their guy become a UFA. If we want to give them a 2nd or trade a conditional pick so be it but not a top 15 1st.


This is a bit different than getting his rights. The idea here is that even if Philly wants his rights they can't extend him for 8 years. Only Carolina can do that and supposedly Dougie wants an 8 year deal. If the Flyers traded for his rights that wouldn't guarantee acquiring him, in this scenario he would already be extended before being acquired
15 juin 2021 à 9 h 31
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This is a bit different than getting his rights. The idea here is that even if Philly wants his rights they can't extend him for 8 years. Only Carolina can do that and supposedly Dougie wants an 8 year deal. If the Flyers traded for his rights that wouldn't guarantee acquiring him, in this scenario he would already be extended before being acquired


Yes but there is no way Carolina should get much for doing this. At this point they are merely the facilitator. IMO a 3rd is the most they should receive. Or they can piss off Dougie and have 0 chance at re-signing him themselves, which I believe they still would want to do.
 
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