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Refuelling the Jets

Créé par: TrueCanuck
Équipe: 2021-22 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 9 juin 2021
Publié: 9 juin 2021
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Here's my view at what could be an interesting off-season for the Jets. After another disappointing season and lacklustre playoff exit, I'm sure changes are coming. I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Cheveldayoff or Paul Maurice are on the hot seat right now. Personally I'd let go of Chevy but that's not for me to decide - maybe one more season for the both of them and then re-evaluate from there.

Here's how I see the draft working out, or at least how I'd prefer it work out for Winnipeg:

2nd round, 51st overall - (D) Logan Mailloux - London Knights (OHL) / SK Lejon (HockeyEttan)

3rd round, 83rd overall - (D) Jack Bar - Chicago Steel (USHL) *long shot he's available here but would be a great pick up)

4th round, 108th overall - (G) Joe Vrbetic - North Bay Battalion (OHL)

5th round, 147th overall - (C/RW) Avery Hayes - Hamilton Bulldogs (OHL) / HK Levice (Slovakia2)


I see a new leadership route being needed - Wheeler just hasn't got things done when needed and too many consistent rumours about him not being the leader they need. So a big but unlikely shake up for me is moving on him and looking to address the needs of defence on the back end and offensive creativity up front. From there, the new leadership core would be:
Captain - Mark Scheifele
Alternate 1 - Josh Morrissey
Alternate 2 - Nikolaj Ehlers
Alternate 3 - Adam Lowry

*Final side note: Bryan Little is on IR as from what I've heard there may be a possibility he returns - it's a small chance but still a chance. So I wanted to show the roster with his cap hit in case they need to account for it. With his cap hit being moved to LTIR if needed, the cap space goes from $805,643K to $6,097,310M which is quite a bit come deadline day to make even more moves and go all in next season to make this team a real threat if needed.

Thoughts?
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    Seattle compensated with prospect Joona Luoto and a 2022 3rd round pick (WPG) for selecting Sami Niku.


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    Outside of Scheifele and Ehlers the Jets really lack any forwards that create offensive chances, so on draft day Kevin Cheveldayoff decides to make a big splash by bringing in a dynamic winger to play in the top 6 and compliment an already dangerous core. Dominik Kubalik has been a real shining light in an otherwise dark Chicago rebuild. Bringing him in gives Winnipeg a top notch offensive calibre player that has proved he can be a line driver in any situation. This is a bit of a steep price and perhaps a slight overpay for Kubalik with only 1 year remaining on his current deal, but with 2 years of arbitration eligibility after this season Winnipeg keeps control of negotiating rights with Kubalik.

    For Chicago, they continue to embrace the rebuild and look to cash in on Kubalik's value before he hits free agency as a RFA with arbitration rights. An overall need in Chicago appears to be a top pairing left handed defenceman, and although Dylan Samberg might not have that high of ceiling it does give Chicago more chances to hit on that position, but Samberg should be no less than a very solid #3 defenceman in the NHL. The Blackhawks also replace Kubalik with a young, yet so far inconsistent winger in Kristian Vesalainen. Vesalainen has proved to be a dominate force in Liiga and the KHL but that success hasn't translated to the NHL yet. He does still carry some upside, and likely settles in as a high 3rd line player with a possibility of a 2nd line player. Chicago also adds the 19th overall pick to continue to add young players into the organization for their rebuild to succeed.
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    *Conditional 2022 1st round pick (LAK):
    - If Los Angeles misses the playoffs in 2021/2022 the Kings have the option to defer the pick to an unprotected 2022 1st round pick (LAK) or relinquish this pick. LA has until the start of the 2022 draft to decide.
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    This deal is a bit more bold and unlikely to happen, but I think it's highly worth considering for both teams. & for the sake of this ACGM, Wheeler agrees to waive his NMC. Afterall, who wouldn't wanna move from cold Winnipeg to sunny and warm Los Angeles?

    For Winnipeg, after another disappointing series and more mentions of leadership lacking in the dressing room (albeit just rumours), this is a massive shake-up by trading their captain. Wheeler has been mentioned before about possibly not being the best leader and although I'm not saying it's true, usually when there's that much smoke there's at least a little bit of fire - so Winnipeg looks to start a new culture and looks to move Wheeler after an impressive offensive season. In return they get a top young prospect in Rasmus Kupari who provides a very solid 2way style of play with some offensive capabilities. They also receive a depth player tp help their roster now in Blake Lizotte. Lizotte is a smaller, speedy kind of player who can play all 3 forward positions and generate a little bit of offence - I see his speed being a need of this Jets team so Cheveldayoff should look to target him. In Braden Doyle the Jets receive a defensive prospect that will require some work and is longer away form making the NHL, but may be a decent bottom pairing defenceman that can steal some top 4 minutes in the future. He is committed to Boston University for next season, which is a great program, and will get chances to develop throughout Winnipeg's system. Finally, the Jets add a 1st round pick that is protected (see conditions) to o help make up some of the value loss in this trade.

    For Los Angeles, their coach and star player have both talked about wanting to contend sooner rather than later while the core is still there to build around. Rob Blake looks to buy low by adding Wheeler who adds another offensive threat and veteran leader to a relatively young locker room. Wheeler would make a great threat for Los Angeles' powerplay and can consistently help create offence. With tons of cap space and only 3 years remaining on his contract, Wheeler shouldn't affect the signing of all LA's young players as they develop and need new deals either.
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    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 25
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    Yeah good luck with getting Kubalik your not getting him
    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 29
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    hawks decline
    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 29
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    Yeah good luck with getting Kubalik your not getting him


    Lol. When in a rebuild, usually your best players get traded for good young assets. I have Winnipeg overpaying for Kubalik. But if you don't feel like moving him, have fun continually sucking and watch him walk away for nothing in 2 years!
    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 30
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    Lol. When in a rebuild, usually your best players get traded for good young assets. I have Winnipeg overpaying for Kubalik. But if you don't feel like moving him, have fun continually sucking and watch him walk away for nothing in 2 years!


    Kubalik is only 25- that’s still really young
    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 32
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    Kubalik is only 25- that’s still really young


    Yes. & he's a UFA in 2 years when Chicago still isn't going to be contending. He's going to be wanting a chance to win.

    In return you're getting a similar player to Kubalik, but younger. Plus a top defence prospect and another pick. That's a lot of value there for Chicago to turn down.
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Yes. & he's a UFA in 2 years when Chicago still isn't going to be contending. He's going to be wanting a chance to win.

    In return you're getting a similar player to Kubalik, but younger. Plus a top defence prospect and another pick. That's a lot of value there for Chicago to turn down.


    Winnipeg is gonna be rebuilding in two years from now as well
    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 34
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    I wouldn't do the Chicago trade. The Jets need Samberg more than another winger. This just pushes the Jets to a more Toronto model.
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    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 35
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    We aren’t wasting all that effort in signing Kubalik after getting him from LA
    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 40
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    Winnipeg is gonna be rebuilding in two years from now as well


    No they're not?

    Scheifele is 28. Ehlers is 25. Connor is 24. Dubois is 22. Copp is 26. Morrissey is 26. Pionk is 25. Hellebuyck is 28.

    They're all right in their primes. Why would they rebuild while they're still in it?
    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 43
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    I wouldn't do the Chicago trade. The Jets need Samberg more than another winger. This just pushes the Jets to a more Toronto model.


    Winnipeg doesn't really need Samberg all that much.

    Morrissey and Heinola are their top 2 left handed defenceman already, and they're 26 and 20 respectively. A third pair defenceman is easy to find via free agency, and Samberg is already older than Heinola.

    Winnipeg is actually in dire need of players who can create offensive scoring chances. After Scheifele and Ehlers they don't have any and that was the biggest reason why they got swept by Montreal. A highly creative offensive player like Kubalik is actually their greatest need, especially over a prospect defenceman.
    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 50
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    Wheeler is not the type of player LA is looking to add. The Kings just finished dumping their high-priced veterans in their 30s, they're not going to add another, especially considering NMCs follow players after trades. He might not be negative value now, but it's very unlikely he's still worth his cap hit at age 38.
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    9 juin 2021 à 14 h 52
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    Winnipeg doesn't really need Samberg all that much.

    Morrissey and Heinola are their top 2 left handed defenceman already, and they're 26 and 20 respectively. A third pair defenceman is easy to find via free agency, and Samberg is already older than Heinola.

    Winnipeg is actually in dire need of players who can create offensive scoring chances. After Scheifele and Ehlers they don't have any and that was the biggest reason why they got swept by Montreal. A highly creative offensive player like Kubalik is actually their greatest need, especially over a prospect defenceman.


    Well, you're not wrong with your assessment. The Jets have to change something, so maybe this is the way to go. Although as you said the Wheeler trade isn't happening, so that would throw of your balance as well. Maybe try the same AGM, but keep Wheeler and see how it looks?
    9 juin 2021 à 15 h 8
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    Well, you're not wrong with your assessment. The Jets have to change something, so maybe this is the way to go. Although as you said the Wheeler trade isn't happening, so that would throw of your balance as well. Maybe try the same AGM, but keep Wheeler and see how it looks?


    All you have to do in that situation is not sign Mikael Granlund and then move Bryan Little to LTIR and it still works. Not a huge road block, just something I see needing a change because Wheeler hasn't got things done in Winnipeg and with all the rumours surfacing multiple times about his leadership, usually where there's that much smoke there's at least a little bit of fire.
    9 juin 2021 à 15 h 11
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    All you have to do in that situation is not sign Mikael Granlund and then move Bryan Little to LTIR and it still works. Not a huge road block, just something I see needing a change because Wheeler hasn't got things done in Winnipeg and with all the rumours surfacing multiple times about his leadership, usually where there's that much smoke there's at least a little bit of fire.


    Yup, something is definitely off with the Jets mentally. A change like that would probably help but isn't in the Jets MO.
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    9 juin 2021 à 15 h 25
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    Unfortunately, Blake Wheeler isn't getting that much in a trade, not close to be brutally honest.
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    Unfortunately, Blake Wheeler isn't getting that much in a trade, not close to be brutally honest.


    It's realistically a B+ prospect and a lottery protected 1st. Lizotte is a depth player, and Doyle is still years away form even having a shot at the NHL. Wheeler is still a close to a point per game player and hs at least that much value.
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    It's realistically a B+ prospect and a lottery protected 1st. Lizotte is a depth player, and Doyle is still years away form even having a shot at the NHL. Wheeler is still a close to a point per game player and hs at least that much value.


    I mean that is true given how dumb some GM's, but realistically, he's so bad defensively now that it completely negates everything he gives offensively and even more. He's kind of just a PP specialist at this point making 8 million dollars a year
    9 juin 2021 à 15 h 57
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    I may be alone in this but I don't mind the offer for Kubalik as a starting point.

    I think we would get more, but it's not that far off.
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    9 juin 2021 à 16 h 40
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    You obviously put a lot of thought into this one but some of your assumptions or things you've "heard" are not correct.

    Blake Wheeler has been nominated for the Mark Messier award as the best leader in the NHL before. He admitted he was too hard on people 2 seasons ago and there haven't been any rumours since.

    If Seattle would take that pile of bottom end players instead of Logan Stanley, Mason Appleton or Mikheal Berdin I would be all about it but I wouldn't take that if I were them. I'd be taking the big LHD that was a former 1st round pick, the waiver exempt goalie or the middle 6 winger instead of a fist full of magic beans that likely don't yield a single NHL player.

    Assuming Seattle takes Stanley, then we need Samberg to run JMo, Heinola, Samberg and have Left D be the strength of our back end so we then can't do the Kubalik trade. I'm not looking to help Chicago at all...

    JMo (26) - DeMelo (28)
    Heinola (20) - Pionk (25)
    Samberg (22) - Kovacevic (23)
    Beaulieu - Niku

    Take the growing pains of turning the back end over to youth. Hopefully draft another RHD in the first 2 rounds and ideally a RW with top 6 potential as well. I'd keep 17OA and draft Ceulmans (RD) / Coranato (RW). Come back in the 2nd round and target the other position. i.e. if you draft a forward in round 1 look at Mailloux or Iorio. If we grab Ceulmans look at Chase Stillman. Maybe another RW slips.

    We have a boatload of capspace, so hopefully we can add a top 6 winger or top 4 RHD to really cement things but I think we can't overreact based on the losing streak at the end of the year where we PDO'd at 93 (just super unlucky for that stretch) or the Habs series when we were without our top pair RD, our allstar C and came off a 9 day gap between games. Teams were 1-4 going into that series with that amount of time between games and 3 of them were swept. Lifetime now teams are 1-5 in that scenario where 4 of them were swept. That is just crazy but it's too much time between games and all rhythm/momentum is gone.

    This year wasn't our year. Next year really could be though. I just don't think Pomo will play 3 rookies on D, but that likely leads us to the longest term success. We will be a playoff team again next year with no trades and no impact signings.

    I would target a winger like Armia, who can PK more than Granlund and it's also possible that Perfetti is retti for a middle 6 role.

    Wheeler is aging but I don't think moving him is the right thing to do. Keep him but just move him down the lineup. He played half the year with broken ribs and he still put up 46 points in 50 games.
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    9 juin 2021 à 19 h 38
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    Im not a fan of the Kubalik Trade.

    Heres why:

    Samberg is no better the the current LD prospects we have in Beaudin, Kalynuk and Vlasic and even Stillman who is still young and just signed a new 3 year deal.
    Vesailanen has been inconsistent and we are giving up a consistent goal scorer which is what every team wants. If he is going to be a 3rd liner, we have more than enough of them currently and a lot of bottom 6 forward prospects that have NHL time.
    The most interesting and valuable piece in the trade is the 19th OA however its been widely discussed that this isn't the deepest or strongest drafts.

    Based on this information I don't see us looking at this deal. I would be disappointed if we gave up Kubalik for anything other than a considerable prospect or at minimum lottery 1st with prospect.
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    10 juin 2021 à 10 h 2
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    Not a terrible offer for Wheeler, but I doubt that Blake pulls the trigger on a forward who will be turning 35 in the off-season. Also, I can’t see Winnipeg trading Blake Wheeler
     
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