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Cap Circumvention

Créé par: siegeell
Équipe: 2021-22 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 8 juin 2021
Publié: 8 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
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2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
21 250 000 $
11 250 000 $
21 300 000 $
21 000 000 $
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  1. McDonagh, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
- Taken in Expansion Draft
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2281 500 000 $81 499 288 $145 122 $0 $712 $
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UFA - 2
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
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NTC
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UFA - 2
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RFA - 3
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C, AG
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NMC
UFA - 7
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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UFA - 2
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Équipe de réserve
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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UFA - 2
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737 500 $737 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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8 juin 2021 à 0 h 34
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Taylor Hall is signing a contract with Tampa Bay and is placed on LTIR per source
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8 juin 2021 à 0 h 35
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Would take far more then a 1st and 3rd round pick to take on Tyler Johnson for 3 years @ $5,000,000 per, You're looking at a 1st and a 2nd round pick and a b prospect at the very least.
8 juin 2021 à 0 h 38
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Would take far more then a 1st and 3rd round pick to take on Tyler Johnson for 3 years $5,000,000 per, You're looking at a 1st and a 2nd round pick and a b prospect at the very least.


How about Alex Barre Boulet? He's a very good player if you don't consider him a prospect. (Point per game player in the minors and top 5 in scoring)
8 juin 2021 à 0 h 41
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Would take far more then a 1st and 3rd round pick to take on Tyler Johnson for 3 years $5,000,000 per, You're looking at a 1st and a 2nd round pick and a b prospect at the very least.


I edited it, Hugo Alnefelt is a projects to be a stud goalie. This is a win for you guys.
8 juin 2021 à 0 h 42
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Johnson is a 3 year long expensive contract.

You'll have to offer a 1st + a 2nd + a 3rd and nothing back before there's a deal to be had.

An option is to add prospects - Johnson + Finley + Goncalves for future considerations.
8 juin 2021 à 0 h 47
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Johnson is a 3 year long expensive contract.

You'll have to offer a 1st + a 2nd + a 3rd and nothing back before there's a deal to be had.

An option is to add prospects - Johnson + Finley + Goncalves for future considerations.


Dude Tyler Johnson could be a productive player for you guys. he's a 30-40 point guy, Its just hes kind of an odd man out on our lineup, its not even that he's that bad.
8 juin 2021 à 0 h 47
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Quoting: siegeell
I edited it, Hugo Alnefelt is a projects to be a stud goalie. This is a win for you guys.


That's somewhat better, Yzerman would probably do that. And if Johnson had a chance to get his 2C job back with Detroit. i'm pretty sure he'd waive especially if Tampa wins back to back cups here.
8 juin 2021 à 0 h 48
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I edited it, Hugo Alnefelt is a projects to be a stud goalie. This is a win for you guys.


Lipanov isn't good enough. Make it Finley or Goncalves instead and you have a deal.

If you make it Alnefelt + Finley + Goncalves you can keep the picks, the players are better for Detroit than picks.
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8 juin 2021 à 0 h 52
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Lipanov isn't good enough. Make it Finley or Goncalves instead and you have a deal.

If you make it Alnefelt + Finley + Goncalves you can keep the picks, the players are better for Detroit than picks.


Brisbeois is very high on Finley so I doubt he will give him up, I gave you guys ABB and a third instead.
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8 juin 2021 à 0 h 53
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Dude Tyler Johnson could be a productive player for you guys. he's a 30-40 point guy, Its just hes kind of an odd man out on our lineup, its not even that he's that bad.


He may be that today but the contract is for three years and he definitely won't keep it up.

Another thing you need to take into account is that there are several other teams offering cap dumps to Detroit and we can't do them all (there's a 50-contract limit in the NHL) so Detroit will choose the ones that offers the best returns. It'll go to the highest bidder.
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8 juin 2021 à 0 h 56
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Brisbeois is very high on Finley so I doubt he will give him up, I gave you guys ABB and a third instead.


ABB is eligible for waivers and there's no spot open.

Make it Ryfors instead and Detroit will be happy to accept.
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8 juin 2021 à 1 h 10
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Alnefelt + Ryfors + Goncalves is a good deal for taking on Johnson.

It fills needs Detroit have very well and helps the rebuild.

You don't need the 3rd - the players are enough.
8 juin 2021 à 1 h 29
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Id rather move Johnson with a 2022 1st and a small add. i dont think it takes more than that if it even takes that much. hes more likely to be taken by Seattle for less than a trade with anyone else
8 juin 2021 à 3 h 47
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Dude Tyler Johnson could be a productive player for you guys. he's a 30-40 point guy, Its just hes kind of an odd man out on our lineup, its not even that he's that bad.
He passed through waivers before the year. No one wants his contract and is willing to do Tampa any favors.
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SN’s Darren Dreger ranks among those who report that other NHL teams want the Lightning to give up something in return for taking on Johnson’s $5M cap hit.

They need a “sweetener,” so to speak, such as a pick or a prospect. Maybe they need to retain salary, or both.

Teams have interest in Johnson, but aren’t interested in relieving cap pressure in Tampa Bay without the Lightning eating a portion of the money or including a legit sweetener to make a deal. https://t.co/BdGs8Rg5Jn

— Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger) October 10, 2020
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8 juin 2021 à 6 h 17
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Id rather move Johnson with a 2022 1st and a small add. i dont think it takes more than that if it even takes that much. hes more likely to be taken by Seattle for less than a trade with anyone else


No he isn't. Seattle isn't just gonna help you out. Their price will be worse because you're not just asking them to take Johnson; you're asking them to ignore better options.
8 juin 2021 à 6 h 20
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I edited it, Hugo Alnefelt is a projects to be a stud goalie. This is a win for you guys.


The price is Alnefelt and the 2022 1st. We'll give your 4th back.
8 juin 2021 à 13 h 52
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No he isn't. Seattle isn't just gonna help you out. Their price will be worse because you're not just asking them to take Johnson; you're asking them to ignore better options.


who else would seattle take lol, Gourde? Palat? Killorn? McDonagh? go ahead, more cap room for us
8 juin 2021 à 14 h 3
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who else would seattle take lol, Gourde? Palat? Killorn? McDonagh? go ahead, more cap room for us


This response makes no sense in the context of the discussion. Perhaps you're confused.
8 juin 2021 à 15 h 42
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This response makes no sense in the context of the discussion. Perhaps you're confused.


lol what.. you said "youre asking them to ignore better options" and i listed other options. they can take whoever they want that's unprotected
8 juin 2021 à 16 h 42
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lol what.. you said "youre asking them to ignore better options" and i listed other options. they can take whoever they want that's unprotected


Again, you seem confused. All of the players you listed are better than Johnson. THEY ARE BETTER OPTIONS. So if you want them to take your cap dump (Johnson) in the expansion draft you pay more.
8 juin 2021 à 20 h 41
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Again, you seem confused. All of the players you listed are better than Johnson. THEY ARE BETTER OPTIONS. So if you want them to take your cap dump (Johnson) in the expansion draft you pay more.


Regardless if they are better options, they are cap moves.. so really they arent better options
 
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