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2021 offseason talks thread

11 sep à 3 h 12
#11776
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Quoting: Juiceman
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Lol if you ever feel like your defence sucks, just remember this is what we are rolling next year


Quoting: aadoyle
You forgot one





But yeah Demko and Halak better pray to whatever gods they pray to


Quoting: Devil1122
Quinn Hughes, Tyler Myers, Tucker Poolman, and OEL

ELITE Defense


Hey, at least there isn't a top 4 of
Morgan Rielly-Ron Hainsey
Jake Gardiner-Nikita Zaitzev
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11 sep à 6 h 51
#11777
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Hey, at least there isn't a top 4 of
Morgan Rielly-Ron Hainsey
Jake Gardiner-Nikita Zaitzev


or Tyson Barrie, Cody Ceci with Reilly
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11 sep à 9 h 00
#11778
JARVIS SZN
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Quoting: Devil1122




My predictions are
1. NYI
2. Piitsburgh
3. Philly
4. Carolina
5. Caps
6. Rangers
7. Devils
8. Blue Jackets

Every team has a chance at the playoffs except Columbus imo


Mine:

NYI (Pretty solid and sure in a ? division)
Canes (You can say this is a wild card, but I think the after the 180 we could recover and get some chemistry)
Pittsburgh (Their last good year. Then they tank for Bedard to replace Crosby)
Devils (Hot take, but it's not out of this world. They had a Grade A offseason and took some huge steps forward)
Philly (The In'n out curse comes to an end. They had a decent offseason and could still replace the devils)
Capitals (Ovi has a sub 30 goal season and they fall off a cliff)
Rangers (They've gotta finish behind Tom Wilson
Blue Jackets (They're tanking and there is no other team in this division that is)
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11 sep à 9 h 45
#11779
Jinx lord
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Quoting: Devil1122




The Athletic list from a few days ago


Quoting: Juiceman
There is literally no reason for Svechnikov to be over Pettersson. If anyone thinks you have a reason, feel free to educate me


And there’s no reason why Heiskanen is bellow Both Hughes, Dahlin, Power, Lafreniere, Tkachuk and Stutzle, and there’s isn’t any arguments for that, Heiskanen in his worst playoff year still won the same number of rounds as all of their careers combined. There’s an argument for Svech, but Heiskanen is still better, he’s in the same tier as Makar and Pettey.

Almost all of them have been heavily sheltered with superstars while Heiskanen had to carry ECHL players all year long.
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11 sep à 10 h 08
#11780
Démarrer sujet
Aviation go brrrrrrr
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Bro I just saw some one say that Chytil projects to be very similar to Barkov…

My brain cells are non existent at this point, please end my suffering.


Hertl or slightly worse than him is a better comparison
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11 sep à 10 h 09
#11781
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Hey, at least there isn't a top 4 of
Morgan Rielly-Ron Hainsey
Jake Gardiner-Nikita Zaitzev


Quoting: A_Habs_fan
or Tyson Barrie, Cody Ceci with Reilly


I swear Dubas built this 19-20 D-core to be bad on purpose. He COULDN'T POSSIBLY have thought this D-core was good enough to do anything, mch less competing for the playoffs
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11 sep à 10 h 15
#11782
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Hertl or slightly worse than him is a better comparison


Imo Chytil ceiling is a good 2c, not quite Hertl level
11 sep à 10 h 36
#11783
Hakuna Matata
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Modifié 11 sep à 10 h 51
Quoting: A_Habs_fan
or Tyson Barrie, Cody Ceci with Reilly


Rielly-Barrie was the oddest pairing I have seen in a while but was also surprisingly good as their puck possession numbers were scary together. In certain situations it was perfect. Rielly-Ceci on the other hand made me wish we had Hainsey back lul
11 sep à 10 h 40
#11784
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Hey, at least there isn't a top 4 of
Morgan Rielly-Ron Hainsey
Jake Gardiner-Nikita Zaitzev


Ironically

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev

Back in 2017-2018 helped the leafs finish 11/31 in goals against that aint bad.

If Muzzin or McDonagh could have been added that could have helped them greatly but Lou decided to go spend on rental 3cs.
11 sep à 10 h 44
#11785
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Quoting: aadoyle
Ironically

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev

Back in 2017-2018 helped the leafs finish 11/31 in goals against that aint bad.

If Muzzin or McDonagh could have been added that could have helped them greatly but Lou decided to go spend on rental 3cs.


*4Cs

That 17-18 D-core was also awful. We got bailed out hard by goaltending.
11 sep à 10 h 48
#11786
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
*4Cs


Plekenic was a 3c but on the leafs he basically had to play 4c as he aint passing AM, NK, and TB. Kadri though moved him up the lineup after he got suspended the first time so during gm 2-6 he was ironically our 2c with Marner and Marleau

Its like when Lou got Pageau who on most other teams would be a 2c but with the Isles he is the 3c as Nelson and Barzel be better.
11 sep à 10 h 51
#11787
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Quoting: aadoyle
Plekenic was a 3c but on the leafs he basically had to play 4c as he aint passing AM, NK, and TB. Kadri though moved him up the lineup after he got suspended the first time so during gm 2-6 he was ironically our 2c with Marner and Marleau


He was acquired to be our 4C, though.
11 sep à 10 h 52
#11788
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
He was acquired to be our 4C, though.


mmm he was brought in as center insurance. Yes he played 4c but Lou's main goal was to have someone in case AM got hurt again.

Basically Matthews insurance was the main reason cause man for 2 years AM could not stay healthy
11 sep à 10 h 54
#11789
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Modifié 11 sep à 10 h 59
Quoting: aadoyle
mmm he was brought in as center insurance. Yes he played 4c but Lou's main goal was to have someone in case AM got hurt again.

Basically Matthews insurance was the main reason cause man for 2 years AM could not stay healthy


Thoroughly disagree with that. Any time you improve your depth is acting as extra insurance, but all he was doing was improving the 4C position, just as he did with Boyle the year before.
11 sep à 11 h 32
#11790
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Quoting: aadoyle
Ironically

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev

Back in 2017-2018 helped the leafs finish 11/31 in goals against that aint bad.

If Muzzin or McDonagh could have been added that could have helped them greatly but Lou decided to go spend on rental 3cs.


They were that good?!?!

I guess Andersen was better than I thought.
11 sep à 11 h 48
#11791
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Quoting: Saskleaf
They were that good?!?!

I guess Andersen was better than I thought.


Andersen was legit top 5 in the league back then
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11 sep à 12 h 05
#11792
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Andersen was legit top 5 in the league back then


Andersen, minus the injuries has been a good goalie for the past couple years no matter how much leafs fans sh*t on him
11 sep à 12 h 25
#11793
Sit back and relax..
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Quoting: Saskleaf
They were that good?!?!

I guess Andersen was better than I thought.


Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Andersen was legit top 5 in the league back then


Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Andersen, minus the injuries has been a good goalie for the past couple years no matter how much leafs fans sh*t on him


Andersen was amazing. The majority of the Leafs fan base will NEVER appreciate what he did.

From the outside looking in (not being at all a Leaf fan); Andersen truly had some fabulous seasons. You don’t even need to stats, when you watched the Leafs he was their “carry”. He carried the Leafs when the young kids weren’t quite good enough and when the team didn’t even know there was such a thing as “defence”.

I love Freddy, he won’t win a cup with Carolina (just my take), but I really would like to see him get one.
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11 sep à 12 h 32
#11794
Sit back and relax..
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I was just listening to a radio show (don’t know the name, was driving).

They were discussing the KK/ Dvorak situation (now that some time has passed).



If KK was not drafted 3rd overall.. it would’ve change ideologies so fast. A lot of media and fans were stuck on “potential” and the guy he could be with that draft position. But when you realize the pick was a stretch and even more so just disassociate the pick with the player, KK was not a good contract to match for Montreal who honestly got an amazing contract in Dvorak that still gives them flexibility to sign/ extend CC and Suzuki.

It hurts losing KK, but I think the Habs are a better team without him and there will be more stability in the lineup. KK is great and I do think he’ll do okay in Carolina but Dvorak is:

Reliable
Strong and somewhat gritty
Special teams (both PP and PK)
Strong in all three zones
Great AAV
4 years
25 years old
Good team guy
Healthy


I personally think the Habs will actually have a better regular season with a legitimate stable Center lineup

Suzuki
Dvorak
Evans? Or whomever takes it

As your 3C’s is great when you put them with the Habs extremely talented and deep wings. Dvorak is gonna get some much needed love now that he’s in Canada imo.
11 sep à 12 h 47
#11795
MTL AGM v5
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Quoting: yikes
I was just listening to a radio show (don’t know the name, was driving).

They were discussing the KK/ Dvorak situation (now that some time has passed).



If KK was not drafted 3rd overall.. it would’ve change ideologies so fast. A lot of media and fans were stuck on “potential” and the guy he could be with that draft position. But when you realize the pick was a stretch and even more so just disassociate the pick with the player, KK was not a good contract to match for Montreal who honestly got an amazing contract in Dvorak that still gives them flexibility to sign/ extend CC and Suzuki.

It hurts losing KK, but I think the Habs are a better team without him and there will be more stability in the lineup. KK is great and I do think he’ll do okay in Carolina but Dvorak is:

Reliable
Strong and somewhat gritty
Special teams (both PP and PK)
Strong in all three zones
Great AAV
4 years
25 years old
Good team guy
Healthy


I personally think the Habs will actually have a better regular season with a legitimate stable Center lineup

Suzuki
Dvorak
Evans? Or whomever takes it

As your 3C’s is great when you put them with the Habs extremely talented and deep wings. Dvorak is gonna get some much needed love now that he’s in Canada imo.


3C is Poehling's job to lose. Evans would be better on the fourth line with Lehkonen in a defensive role.
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11 sep à 12 h 48
#11796
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11 sep à 12 h 51
#11797
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Modifié 11 sep à 13 h 01
Quoting: Saskleaf
They were that good?!?!

I guess Andersen was better than I thought.


Well Freddie was 4th in Vezina voting that year
11 sep à 13 h 07
#11798
Sit back and relax..
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Quoting: Db1899




Lmfao can’t blame him,

Barzal can exit the zone and neutral zone as well as anyone.

Guys on my team Canada 9.9/10.

Still pains me to this day not selecting him. My favourite player from his draft.
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11 sep à 13 h 10
#11799
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Quoting: yikes
Lmfao can’t blame him,

Barzal can exit the zone and neutral zone as well as anyone.

Guys on my team Canada 9.9/10.

Still pains me to this day not selecting him. My favourite player from his draft.


Barzal is pretty much a one man system lol.
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11 sep à 13 h 18
#11800
Sit back and relax..
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Quoting: Db1899
Barzal is pretty much a one man system lol.


If only Trotz saw the it the same way 🥲 give the kid a full time winger and you got 90 points easy 😤
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