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2021 offseason talks thread

4 sept. 2021 à 20 h 50
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
I couldn’t care less how good or bad KK might be. I’m grieving, please don’t try to antagonize me.

And as I’m sure nearly every sane habs fan would agree with me 2 weeks ago, I wouldn’t trade Kotkaniemi for Dvorak in a million years.


100%, not to mention that you guys gave up a FIRST AND A SECOND for Dvorak. My condolences. (Really.)
4 sept. 2021 à 20 h 52
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
100%, not to mention that you guys gave up a FIRST AND A SECOND for Dvorak. My condolences. (Really.)


That’s a slight overpayment for Dvorak, not that bad, but when you look at what we got for Kk and compare Kk and Dvorak, we then have a big problem
4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 3
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Arizona doing what I wish more teams would do😍
Just EA NHL it, butcher the whole team for unparalleled future success

Arizona is actually going to be scary. 14 picks in the first 2 rounds within 3 years.


After looking at their draft record I dont know. They seem to struggle in the draft department often missing more than hitting

And even when they get a hit they trade the guy away for a meh return
4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 10
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Arizona doing what I wish more teams would do😍
Just EA NHL it, butcher the whole team for unparalleled future success

Arizona is actually going to be scary. 14 picks in the first 2 rounds within 3 years.


"Just EA NHL it" tears of joy Legendary call
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 14
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
100%, not to mention that you guys gave up a FIRST AND A SECOND for Dvorak. My condolences. (Really.)


I mean I think that the Dvorak deal is pretty good value. Losing KK not so much.
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 16
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
I mean I think that the Dvorak deal is pretty good value. Losing KK not so much.


Yeah, the problem isn’t with Dvorak, it’s with losing Kk, Kk was loved throughout the fanbase
4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 17
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
I mean I think that the Dvorak deal is pretty good value. Losing KK not so much.


I feel like a first and a second is too much. Dvorak is a solid player who's definitely worth a second-rounder, maybe even a first. But not both.
Regardless, it's losing Kotkaniemi that stings.
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 18
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@Kotkaniemi15 Burning question: Is your user profile name getting changed? smile
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 23
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Dvorak for KK, a 1st and a 2nd is awful-some...
Way to go MB, put your-arse right back in the Waddell/Holland/Benning/Nill/_______________/_______________ category of outstanding "GMs in a field"
4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 30
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
Kotkaniemi15 Burning question: Is your user profile name getting changed? smile


I asked him that when the offer sheet was signed.

He was quite sure at the time it would be matched (sorry to kotkaniemi15 and other habs fans, not trying to rub it in your face).

But he did say that he would probably keep the name.
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 30
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Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
I feel like a first and a second is too much. Dvorak is a solid player who's definitely worth a second-rounder, maybe even a first. But not both.
Regardless, it's losing Kotkaniemi that stings.


I think Dvorak is easily worth a 1st and maybe a bit more, but yes losing Kk is the what really stings

Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
Kotkaniemi15 Burning question: Is your user profile name getting changed? smile


I’m pretty sure in a previous post he said no

Quoting: McGruff
Dvorak for KK, a 1st and a 2nd is awful-some...
Way to go MB, put your-arse right back in the Waddell/Holland/Benning/Nill/_______________/_______________ category of outstanding "GMs in a field"


It’s technically Dvorak for Kk and a bit more not Dvorak for Kk AND a 1st + 2nd, Bergevin is a really peculiar GM though
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 36
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I think Dvorak is easily worth a 1st and maybe a bit more, but yes losing Kk is the what really stings



I’m pretty sure in a previous post he said no



It’s technically Dvorak for Kk and a bit more not Dvorak for Kk AND a 1st + 2nd, Bergevin is a really peculiar GM though


I still think the "sting" is more the other way around, but yeah that's not impt.

On a positive note:
KK is NOT worth US$6.1MIL (or CDN$7.64MIL Cdn Pesos) so there's that...
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: McGruff
I still think the "sting" is more the other way around, but yeah that's not impt.

On a positive note:
KK is NOT worth US$6.1MIL (or CDN$7.64MIL Cdn Pesos) so there's that...


Yeah except Kk was loved throughout the fanbase and has a lot of potential, his ceiling is a low end 1c/great 2c and imo he’s worth more than the 1st and 3rd/Dvorak, him not being worth 6mil doesn’t matter
4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 52
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Who's worse, Buffalo or Arizona?
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 53
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Yeah except Kk was loved throughout the fanbase and has a lot of potential, his ceiling is a low end 1c/great 2c and imo he’s worth more than the 1st and 3rd/Dvorak, him not being worth 6mil doesn’t matter


Fans used to love G-Man Paddy too but all things must pass...
4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 56
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Quoting: Devil1122
Who's worse, Buffalo or Arizona?


If we’re talking Buffalo with no Eichel and no NHLers in return for Eichel, then it’s Buffalo.
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4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 59
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Who's worse, Buffalo or Arizona?


Worse goaltending Buffalo, offense, Buffalo ( Keller and Schmaltz carries Arz there ), defense well Chychrun is on Arz so Buffalo is worse
4 sept. 2021 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Worse goaltending Buffalo, offense, Buffalo ( Keller and Schmaltz carries Arz there ), defense well Chychrun is on Arz so Buffalo is worse


Honestly it's hard to tell between Korenar & Hutton and Anderson & Dell lol
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4 sept. 2021 à 22 h 20
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Honestly it's hard to tell between Korenar & Hutton and Anderson & Dell lol


Don't forget UPL
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4 sept. 2021 à 22 h 21
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Quoting: Devil1122
Who's worse, Buffalo or Arizona?


That’s like comparing your garbage can to the neighbors’
4 sept. 2021 à 22 h 33
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Quoting: Dzinger18
That’s like comparing your garbage can to the neighbors’


Except one of them has been on fire for like 10 years
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4 sept. 2021 à 23 h 12
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I forget is Buffalo exempt from getting Wright or was the rule applied for after the 2021 draft.

The rule I am referring to is if a team gets the #1OA pick they cant get it for the next 5 seasons or something. Basically NHL preventing an Oilers
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4 sept. 2021 à 23 h 15
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I forget is Buffalo exempt from getting Wright or was the rule applied for after the 2021 draft.

The rule I am referring to is if a team gets the #1OA pick they cant get it for the next 5 seasons or something. Basically NHL preventing an Oilers


As far as I understand, that rule applies to drafts after 2021.
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4 sept. 2021 à 23 h 17
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K so I think we can all agree based on all changes so far

Wright is either going to

1. Buffalo
2. Arizona
3. Anaheim
4. Columbus
5. Seattle

Why is Seattle on this list. Depending on the direction they go they could massively tank after the deadline if they decide to get assets for the rentals.
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4 sept. 2021 à 23 h 18
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Quoting: aadoyle
K so I think we can all agree

Wright is either going to

1. Buffalo
2. Arizona
3. Anaheim
4. Columbus
5. Seattle


I'm hoping Columbus. Their stars never want to stay.
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