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2021 offseason talks thread

26 aoû à 11 h 18
#10101
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Svech just signed a steal
26 aoû à 11 h 30
#10102
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Quoting: yikes
I’m assuming he’s Belarusian (idk if that’s the demonym)


Yup
26 aoû à 11 h 32
#10103
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Dzinger18 finally something good has happened!


Holy crap I’m hyped. Thank god we got him locked up for under 8 million.
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26 aoû à 11 h 32
#10104
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
😂😂😂, probably accurate to be fair


It was definetly accurate. Poland won 1-0. The only goal was a shot that barely got past the goalie's pads
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26 aoû à 11 h 32
#10105
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Quoting: SevenLeg




One of the best contracts in the NHL


Rare Waddell W
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26 aoû à 11 h 33
#10106
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Words can’t describe how happy I am right now with the Svech deal. Thank you Waddell.
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26 aoû à 11 h 37
#10107
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Lucky thing for Canes fans that the Svech deal was a W. Waddell’s gotta earn the W in his name in at least 1/3 of transactions (one W two Ls lol). Now hopefully the Sens get Tkachuk locked up for 8 years at slightly less than this.
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26 aoû à 11 h 41
#10108
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Words can’t describe how happy I am right now with the Svech deal. Thank you Waddell.


I hate to burst your bubble, but the Canes have 8.6M in cap space now (with Gardiner on LTIR). So if they didn't sign Freddie Andersen, they would have been able to keep Dougie and Nedgrimace
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26 aoû à 11 h 44
#10109
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Quoting: Devil1122
I hate to burst your bubble, but the Canes have 8.6M in cap space now (with Gardiner on LTIR). So if they didn't sign Freddie Andersen, they would have been able to keep Dougie and Nedgrimace


Since when is Gardiner injured?
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26 aoû à 11 h 46
#10110
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Since when is Gardiner injured?

He’s always at least half injured. Also a defensive liability so I get the idea of putting him on LTIR.
26 aoû à 11 h 47
#10111
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8 players have signed bigger AAV contracts than Svechnikov since Jan. 1

-Zachary Werenski
-Alex Ovechkin
-Brayden Point
-Seth Jones
-Darnell Nurse
-Cale Makar
-Dougie Hamilton
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26 aoû à 11 h 48
#10112
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Since when is Gardiner injured?


Im pretty sure he has a back injury
26 aoû à 11 h 49
#10113
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Quoting: Devil1122
Im pretty sure he has a back injury


Or surgery
26 aoû à 11 h 55
#10114
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Svechnikov's signing also just pushed Jonathan Huberdeau outside of the top 25 most paid left-wingers.

1-Artemi Panarin $11,642,857 (NYR)
2-Alex Ovechkin $9,500,000 (WSH)
3-Jamie Benn $9,500,000 (DAL)
4-Jeff Skinner $9,000,000 (BUF)
5-Claude Giroux $8,275,000 (PHI)
6-Andrei Svechnikov $7,750,000 (CAR)
7-Patrik Laine $7,500,000 (CBJ)
8-Kyle Connor $7,142,857 (WPG)
9-Evander Kane $7,000,000 (SJS)
10-Anders Lee $7,000,000 (NYI)
11-Matthew Tkachuk $7,000,000 (CGY)
12-Gabriel Landeskog $7,000,000 (COL)
13-James van Riemsdyk $7,000,000 (PHI)
14-Max Pacioretty $7,000,000 (VGK)
15-Johnny Gaudreau $6,750,000 (CGY)
16-Chris Kreider $6,500,000 (NYR)
17-Alex DeBrincat $6,400,000 (CHI)
18-Brad Marchand $6,125,000 (BOS)
19-Milan Lucic $6,000,000 (CGY)
20-Taylor Hall $6,000,000 (BOS)
21-Jake Guentzel $6,000,000 (PIT)
22-Timo Meier $6,000,000 (SJS)
23-Loui Eriksson $6,000,000 (ARI)
24-Filip Forsberg $6,000,000 (NSH)
25-Mats Zuccarello $6,000,000 (MIN)
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26 aoû à 11 h 56
#10115
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Svechnikov's signing also just pushed Jonathan Huberdeau outside of the top 25 most paid left-wingers.

1-Artemi Panarin $11,642,857 (NYR)
2-Alex Ovechkin $9,500,000 (WSH)
3-Jamie Benn $9,500,000 (DAL)
4-Jeff Skinner $9,000,000 (BUF)
5-Claude Giroux $8,275,000 (PHI)
6-Andrei Svechnikov $7,750,000 (CAR)
7-Patrik Laine $7,500,000 (CBJ)
8-Kyle Connor $7,142,857 (WPG)
9-Evander Kane $7,000,000 (SJS)
10-Anders Lee $7,000,000 (NYI)
11-Matthew Tkachuk $7,000,000 (CGY)
12-Gabriel Landeskog $7,000,000 (COL)
13-James van Riemsdyk $7,000,000 (PHI)
14-Max Pacioretty $7,000,000 (VGK)
15-Johnny Gaudreau $6,750,000 (CGY)
16-Chris Kreider $6,500,000 (NYR)
17-Alex DeBrincat $6,400,000 (CHI)
18-Brad Marchand $6,125,000 (BOS)
19-Milan Lucic $6,000,000 (CGY)
20-Taylor Hall $6,000,000 (BOS)
21-Jake Guentzel $6,000,000 (PIT)
22-Timo Meier $6,000,000 (SJS)
23-Loui Eriksson $6,000,000 (ARI)
24-Filip Forsberg $6,000,000 (NSH)
25-Mats Zuccarello $6,000,000 (MIN)

Good, I like Loui Eriksson more than Huberdeau anyway
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26 aoû à 11 h 57
#10116
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Quoting: Alfie11
Good, I like Loui Eriksson more than Huberdeau anyway


I still cannot believe Vancouver didn't get a single good year out of that contract.
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26 aoû à 12 h 00
#10117
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26 aoû à 12 h 02
#10118
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Quoting: SevenLeg


nice try
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26 aoû à 12 h 02
#10119
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Quoting: SevenLeg



F*ck i fell for it, I was like yes than nooo
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26 aoû à 12 h 10
#10120
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Someone do an overrated players list
26 aoû à 12 h 18
#10121
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Someone do an overrated players list


1. Josh Morrissey

The 3 worst analytical players in the NHL last year

1. Radek Faksa
2. Jordan Greenway
3. Josh Morrissey

Guy is treated like a #1 d-man but he fails every single hockey evaluation test. Eye test fail, analytical fail, even point production fail. He put up 12 5v5 points last year. 17 point pace.
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26 aoû à 12 h 25
#10122
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Someone do an overrated players list


2. Sean Monahan

Again, analytical - 3C, point production - 3C, eye test - half the games I can't even tell you he was playing yet he's treated like a fringe 1C when in reality he's a 3C
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26 aoû à 12 h 30
#10123
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Svechnikov's signing also just pushed Jonathan Huberdeau outside of the top 25 most paid left-wingers.

1-Artemi Panarin $11,642,857 (NYR)
2-Alex Ovechkin $9,500,000 (WSH)
3-Jamie Benn $9,500,000 (DAL)
4-Jeff Skinner $9,000,000 (BUF)
5-Claude Giroux $8,275,000 (PHI)
6-Andrei Svechnikov $7,750,000 (CAR)
7-Patrik Laine $7,500,000 (CBJ)
8-Kyle Connor $7,142,857 (WPG)
9-Evander Kane $7,000,000 (SJS)
10-Anders Lee $7,000,000 (NYI)
11-Matthew Tkachuk $7,000,000 (CGY)
12-Gabriel Landeskog $7,000,000 (COL)
13-James van Riemsdyk $7,000,000 (PHI)
14-Max Pacioretty $7,000,000 (VGK)
15-Johnny Gaudreau $6,750,000 (CGY)
16-Chris Kreider $6,500,000 (NYR)
17-Alex DeBrincat $6,400,000 (CHI)
18-Brad Marchand $6,125,000 (BOS)
19-Milan Lucic $6,000,000 (CGY)
20-Taylor Hall $6,000,000 (BOS)
21-Jake Guentzel $6,000,000 (PIT)
22-Timo Meier $6,000,000 (SJS)
23-Loui Eriksson $6,000,000 (ARI)
24-Filip Forsberg $6,000,000 (NSH)
25-Mats Zuccarello $6,000,000 (MIN)


Loui>Huberdeau confirmed
26 aoû à 12 h 35
#10124
Sit back and relax..
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Someone do an overrated players list


Quoting: TheFlamingC
2. Sean Monahan

Again, analytical - 3C, point production - 3C, eye test - half the games I can't even tell you he was playing yet he's treated like a fringe 1C when in reality he's a 3C


Dahlin

Now that could be a hot take but he had 1 good year and now he’s had 2 abysmal years. Yes he’s on Buffalo blah blah - but Eichel, Reinhart, etc still perform. But he’s treated like a Elite pairing d man still by many fans and Buffalo fans.

Dahlin has been just brutal and still has upside but it’s hard to argue he’s worth much right now. You’re really just betting on potential if you think he’s worth something. He’s needs to play well to justify continuous defending of him. Trust me he’s got potential but you can’t defend a kid for 3 years straight if he plays mediocre again.
26 aoû à 12 h 44
#10125
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
2. Sean Monahan

Again, analytical - 3C, point production - 3C, eye test - half the games I can't even tell you he was playing yet he's treated like a fringe 1C when in reality he's a 3C

I think this is a bit too far in the other direction tbh. He’s a perfectly good 2C who has typically been an above average offensive contributor. 19-20 was a down year where he was still on pace for 26 goals and 56 points, which is very good 2C numbers. His average from 2014-19 was 31 goals and 68 points per 82 games which is elite 2C, 1C on a non-contender numbers (which is what he was). This year he was only on pace for 46 points, but he was playing through a hip injury and with a rotating cast of RWers who honestly shouldn’t even be in the NHL (Ritchie, Leivo, Simon, Nordstrom all sucked, Bennett was probably the best and he didn’t deserve to be higher than the 4th line when he was with us).
 
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