Do a what you think they should be, as in like I believe Hughes should be a...but he's gonna be a 84 High elite.

Good idea

Hischier: 85
Hughes: 86
Tatar: 84
Bratt: 84
Zacha: 83
Sharangovich: 83
Wood: 82
Kuokkanen: 82
Johnsson: 79
Boqvist: 81
McLeod: 81
Foote: 80
Holtz: 79
Studenic: 77

Hamilton: 90
Severson: 85
Smith: 84
Subban: 82
Graves: 83
Siegenthaler: 79
Jaros: 75

Blackwood: 85
Bernier: 83

Same potentials?

I think he would LIKE to stay in the league, but if he does it’s purely off name brand, or on a terrible team like Buffalo. I don’t think his current abilities justify giving him an NHL contract based on pure on-ice merit.

Holy crap you have 50 likes on that post in the Fleury trade thread

53 to be exact, my highest one so far. It took me about 5 seconds to think about when making that post.

Yup

Except Kuokkanen Med Top 6

I think the following is one of the most complete teams I've ever built...
DeBrincat-MacKinnon-M.Tkachuk
Gurianov-Cirelli-R.Smith
Greenway-R.Strome-Carter
Paul-D.Ryan-Fast

Chychrun-Pesce
Martinez-Montour
Boroweicki-Walker

Hellebuyck
Rittich

I think this team can «easily» win it all because they have a strong C core, strong wingers that can contribute in all facets of the play, mobile and physical, 2-way d-men as well as one of the 2-3 best goalies on the planet.

Just went into he forums and copied all the NHL 22 Ratings I could find.
Anderson : 80 TOP 6 LOW ---> 82 TOP 6 MED
Armia : 80 TOP 9 MED ---> 80 TOP 9 LOW
Byron : 79 TOP 9 HIGH ---> 78 BOT 6 MED
Caufield : 78 ELITE MED --> 83 ELITE MED
Drouin : 85 ELITE MED ---> 82 TOP 6 MED
Evans : 75 TOP 9 MED ---> 79 TOP 9 MED
Gallagher : 85 TOP 6 MED ---> 87 TOP 6 MED
Hoffman : 85 ELITE LOW ---> 84 TOP 6 MED
Kotkaniemi : 82 ELITE MED ---> 83 TOP 6 HIGH
Lehkonen : 80 TOP 9 MED ---> 80 TOP 9 MED
Paquette : 79 BOT 6 MED ---> 77 BOT 6 LOW
Poehling : 78 TOP 6 LOW ---> 78 TOP 6 MED
Perreault : 80 TOP 9 HIGH ---> 78 BOT 6 HIGH
Suzuki : 83 TOP 6 MED ---> 87 ELITE MED
Toffoli : 83 TOP 6 MED ---> 85 TOP 6 MED

Defense:
Chiarot : 80 TOP 6 MED ---> 81 TOP 6 HIGH
Edmundson : 81 TOP 6 HIGH ---> 83 TOP 4 MED
Norlinder : N/A ---> 76 TOP 6 HIGH
Petry : 85 TOP 4 HIGH ---> 87 TOP 4 MED
Romanov : 77 TOP 4 MED ---> 81 TOP 4 MED
Savard : 82 TOP 4 MED ---> 82 TOP 4 MED
Wideman: N/A ---> 74 TOP 6 LOW
Kulak: 79 TOP 6 MED ---> 78 TOP 6 MED

Goalies:
Price : 90 ELITE HIGH ---> 90 ELITE MED
Allen : 81 STARTER HIGH ---> 80 STARTER MED

Team Explanation
My opinion on ratings and potentials

Forwards:
Elias Pettersson 90 OA Low Franchise
JT Miller 87 OA Medium Elite
Brock Boeser 88 OA High Elite

Bo Horvat 87 OA Low Elite
Conor Garland 85 OA Medium Top 6
Nils Höglander 83 OA High Top 6

Jason Dickinson 82 OA Medium Top 9
Tanner Pearson 83 OA Exact Top 6
Vasili Podkolzin 80 OA Medium Top 6

Brandon Sutter 81 OA Exact Top 9
Tyler Motte 81 OA High Bottom 6
Zack MacEwen 78 OA Low Bottom 6

Defence:
Quinn Hughes 87 OA High Elite
Travis Hamonic 82 OA Medium Top 4

Oliver Ekman Larsson 85 OA Exact Elite
Tyler Myers 84 OA High Top 4

Jack Rathbone 80 OA Medium Top 4
Tucker Poolman 80 OA Medium Top 6

Goalies:
Thatcher Demko 88 OA Medium Elite
Jaraslav Halak 82 OA High Backup

Extras:
Mathew Highmore 79 OA Low Top 9
Olli Juolevi 77 OA Low Top 6
Like Schenn 78 OA 7th Defenceman

Team Explanation
DeBrincat: 88 overall Medium Elite
Toews: 86 overall Medium Top 6
Kane: 91 overall Medium Elite

Kubalik: 85 overall High Top 6
Strome: 83 overall Low Top 6
Dach: 81 overall Medium Elite

Hagel: 80 overall Medium top 6
Borgstrom: 79 overall Low Top 9
Johnson: 83 overall Medium top 6

Kurashev: 80 overall medium top 6
Gaudette: 78 overall medium top 9
Nylander: 79 overall medium top 9

McCabe: 83 overall medium top 4
S.Jones: 85 overall low elite

Stillman: 79 overall exact top 6
Murphy: 84 overall medium top 4

C.Jones: 78 overall high top 4
De Haan: 79 overall low top 6

Fleury: 88 overall medium elite
Lankinen: 84 overall medium starter

Mika Zibanejad, 86 OVR Ex Top6 1 $5,350,000
Alexis Lafreniere, 82 OVR Med Elite 2 $925,000
Kaapo Kakko, 83 OVR Med Elite 1 $925,000
Artemi Panarin, 90 OVR Ex Elite 5 $11,642,857
Ryan Strome, 84 OVR Ex Top6 1 $4,500,000
Vitali Kravtsov, 79 OVR Med Top6 1 $925,000
Chris Kreider, 83 OVR Ex Top6 6 $6,500,000
Filip Chytil, 82 OVR Med Top6 2 $2,300,000
Samuel Blais, 79 OVR Med Top6 1 $1,500,000
Barclay Goodrow, 79 OVR Ex Top 9 6 $3,641,667
Kevin Rooney, 77 OVR Ex Bottom 6 1 $750,000
Ryan Reaves, 77 OVR Ex Bottom 6 1 $1,750,000
Ryan Lindgren, 82 OVR Med Top4 3 $3,000,000
Adam Fox, 87-88 OVR Med Elite 1 $925,000
KAndre Miller, 80 OVR Med Top 4 2 $925,000
Jacob Trouba, 85 OVR Ex Top 4 5 $8,000,000
Patrik Nemeth, 80 OVR Ex Top 6D 3 $2,500,000
Nils Lundkvist, 77 OVR High Top 4 3 $925,000
Igor Shesterkin, 85 OVR Med Elite 4 $5,666,667
Alexander Georgiev, 81 OVR Med Starter 1 $2,425,000

NHL 21 Rating ---> My NHL 22 Rating

Forwards :

Kyle Connor 88 MED ELITE ---> 88 MED ELITE
Andrew Copp 81 MED TOP 6 ---> 81 MED TOP 6
Pierre-Luc Dubois 84 MED ELITE ---> 85 LOW ELITE
Nikolaj Ehlers 86 MED ELITE ---> 88 MED ELITE
David Gustafsson 77 MED TOP 9 ---> 79 HIGH TOP 9
Jansen Harkins 78 MED BOTTOM 6 ---> 78 LOW TOP 9
Bryan Little 83 HIGH TOP 6 ---> 79 LOW TOP 9
Adam Lowry 81 MED TOP 9 ---> 81 MED TOP 9
Chaz Lucius NO RATING ---> 72 MED TOP 6
Riley Nash 78 MED TOP 9 ---> 79 LOW TOP 9
Cole Perfetti 72 MED ELITE ---> 77 MED ELITE
Mark Scheifele 90 MED ELITE ---> 90 MED ELITE
Paul Stastny 82 HIGH TOP 6 ---> 84 MED TOP 6
Dominic Toninato 75 MED BOTTOM 6 ---> 78 LOW TOP 9
Kristian Vesalainen 76 MED ELITE ---> 79 LOW TOP 6
Blake Wheeler 88 MED ELITE ---> 87 MED ELITE

Defense:

Nathan Beaulieu 78 MED TOP 6 ---> 79 MED TOP 6
Dylan DeMelo 79 MED TOP 6 ---> 80 MED TOP 6
Brenden Dillon 82 HIGH TOP 6 ---> 82 MED TOP 6
Ville Heinola 77 MED TOP 4 ---> 79 MED TOP 4
Josh Morrissey 86 MED TOP 4 ---> 84 LOW TOP 4
Sami Niku 79 MED TOP 4 ---> 77 LOW TOP 4
Neal Pionk 85 MED TOP 4 ---> 87 MED TOP 4
Dylan Samberg 70 MED TOP 6 ---> 75 HIGH TOP 6
Nate Schmidt 83 LOW TOP 4 ---> 83 MED TOP 4
Logan Stanley 74 MED TOP 4 ---> 80 MED TOP 4

Goalies:

Mikhail Berdin 77 MED BACKUP ---> 79 MED STARTER
Eric Comrie 80 MED STARTER ---> 79 LOW STARTER
Connor Hellebuyck 90 MED ELITE ---> 91 MED ELITE

Josh Anderson: 84 OA EXACT top 6
Nick Suzuki:86 OA Medium Elite
Cole Caufield:82 OA Medium Elite
Tyler Toffoli:85 OA EXACT top 6
Jesperi Kotkaniemi: 82 OA Low Elite
Brendan Gallagher:85 OA Exact top 6
Jonathan Drouin:83 OA Low Elite
Ryan Poehling:80 OA medium top 6
Mike Hoffman:85 OA exact top 6
Arturri Lekhonen:81 OA high top 9
Jake Evans:80 OA high top 9
Joel Armia:83 OA exact top 9
Cedric Paquette:78 OA exact bottom 6
Mathieu Perreault:80 OA exact top 9

Joel Edmundson:83 OA exact top 4
Jeff Petry:88 OA exact Elite
Alexander Romanov:80 OA high top 4
David Savard:83 OA exact top 4
Ben Chiarot:83 OA exact top 4
Chris Wideman:79 OA exact 7th
Brett Kulak:80 OA Exact top 6

Carey Price:90 OA exact elite
Jake Allen:83 exact starter
Cayden Primeau:79 OA medium starter

McDavid 97 high franchise - cause why not?
Draisaitl 94 - med franchise - has proven to be one of the best
Nurse 87 - med elite - will grow to the 90s if he does well, might get an 88 by EA.
Nuge 86 - high top 6 - very decent in his own end and scores well, good complementery player
Smith 86 - med fringe He was a vezina caliber player last season
Hyman 85 - Works hard, physical, good with starplayers, never takes a day off, Got 30+ points
Keith 84 - med top 4 - Can't be ''the guy'' but still play a top 4 role and do it effective
Barrie 83 - med elite - im not sold on him, good with the puck but horrendous in his own end
Puljujarvi 82 - low elite - good shot, Good 2-way game, aggressive, works hard
Ceci 82 - med top 4 - was good last year and got the payday to be atleast an 82
Foegele 81 - med top 6 - decent offensive upside, works hard, physical
Yam 81 - med top 6 - Good workrate - fast, good offensive upside, did have a down year
Koskinen 80 - low fringe - let in 4 goals on 4 shots never done before
Ryan 80 - high bottom 6 - Does the small things right, fantastic bottom 6 guy to have
Kassian 80 - med top 9 - overpaid but physical and has an offensive upside
Shore 80 - med bottom 6 - Works hardm physical, decent depth player
Archibald 80 - med bottom 6 - Hits the most, Decent shot, decent speed
Lagesson 79 - med top 6 - Great 7th D to have, physical, good teammate
McLeod 78 - med top 6 - unproven talent that can have a breakthrough season
Bouchard 78 - med elite - same as McLeod but with a much bigger talent
Perlini 77/78 - med top 9/low top 6 - has some untapped potential, with the contract he got he can't be higher than 78.

Nino Niedereiter 84 exact top 6
Sebastian Aho 89 medium elite
Jesper Fast 81 exact top 9
Jordan Staal 83 exact top 6
Teuvo Teraivainen 87 med elite
Vincent Trocheck 85 exact top 6
Martin Necas 84 med elite
Jordan Martinook 80 exact top 9
Josh Leivo 80 exact top 9
Derek Stepan 79 exact top 9
Seth Jarvis 76 high top 6
Ryan Suzuki 74 medium top 6
Dominik Bokk 70 medium top 6

Jacob Slavin 88 exact elite
Brett Pesce 84 exact top 4
Brady Skjei 83 exact top 4
Ian Cole 80 exact top 6
Ethan Bear 81 med top 4
Jake Gardiner 81 exact top 6
Tony Deangelo 83 low elite
Brendan Smith 78 7th

Team Explanation
going off Mcdavid is 96 because he should be or higher
Added in a few rookies like Roberston and Lilypad and some extra goalies and anderson since i think hes the marlie who will get a shot back in the NHL

Matthews 95 Med Franchise
Marner 93 High Elite
Tavares 91 Med Franchise
Nylander 87 Med Elite
Kerfoot 83 Med top 6
Mikheyev 80 Low top 6
Kampf 81 Med top 9
Kase 82 Low Top 6
Engvall 79 Med Bottom 6
Bunting 81 Low top 6
Simmonds 80 Low top 6
Spezza 82 Med Elite
Gabriel 76 Low Bottom 6
Brooks 78 High Bottom 6
Robertson 76 Med Top 6
Anderson 77 High Bottom 6


Left out Ritchie because no clue

Rielly 87 Exact Elite
Muzzin 85 Med top 4
Brodie 86 Med top 4
Holl 82 Med top 6
Dermott 81 Low Top 4
Sandin 80 Med Elite
Lijjegren 77 Low Elite

Mrazek 83 Med starter
Campbell 84 Med starter
Kallgren 75 Low Fringe Starter
Clutchinson 77 High AHL Starter

Thoughts?

This is why I hate the golden knights.

Agree with McCann and Ned.

Why Gallagher though? Any specific reason, he seems kind of random.

NHL 2021-22 Predictions

Metro
1. Islanders - 104
2. Penguins - 99
3. Flyers - 94
4. Canes - 93
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5. Capitals - 89
6. Rangers - 87
7. Devils - 84
8. Blue Jackets - 70

Atlantic
1. Tampa - 103
2. Boston - 98
3. Toronto - 97
4. Panthers - 94
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5. Canadiens - 91
6. Ottawa - 80
7. Detroit - 76
8. Buffalo - 55

Central
1. Colorado - 102
2. Winnipeg - 99
3. Minnesota - 96
4. Chicago - 94
5. Stars - 91
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6. St.Louis - 87
7. Nashville - 78
8. Houston - 58

Pacific
1. Vegas - 107 (p)
2. Edmonton - 100
3. Vancouver - 94
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4. Calgary - 87
5. LA - 86
6. Kraken - 79
7. Sharks - 74
8. Ducks - 72

Awards
Art Ross: McDavid
Hart: McDavid
James Norris: Makar
Calder: Caufield
Vezina: Helle
Selke: Couturier
Rocket: Matthews


2022 Draft
1. Kraken - Shane Wright
2. Columbus - Brad Lambert
3. Buffalo - Matthew Savoie


Playoffs Final 4
Colorado vs Vegas
Islanders vs Panthers

Avalanche vs Islanders

Avalanche win Cup
Conn Smythe: Mackinnon

Bahahaha

I just cant see Kraken getting #1OA as compared to Buffalo, Anaheim, and as Columbus their team is better built. Especially when you consider Anaheim gonna be selling off some of the vets and rentals this season either at the deadline or whenever. As lets be real without Manson, Lindholm, Rakell, and potentially Fowler, Gibson, and Henrique where would they finish. Last to close to last would be my guess. But if Gibson stays could easily see them get the #2OA

I mean, it's a lottery. As long as Seattle is in the bottom 10, they can get the 1OA pick.

I think in that weak division there's a good chance Seattle makes the playoffs.

I agree. I think they make the playoffs too.

Iunno what did Colorado do to address their issues? I guess if a Kadri was there during the playoffs they could’ve beaten Vegas? Maybe. Toronto Iunno I’m not sold, we’re betting on Bunting becoming Verhaeghe essentially, the unknown Campbell-Mrazek tandem, Spezza not falling off a cliff, Keefe’s decision making (who’s controlling the ship cause the PP stunk and no adjustments were made), and a lowkey thing is Muzzin getting injured in the first round of the last two postseasons

I mean Florida aint much better

Bobrosky his last 2 seasons has been godawful and hes making 10mill and according to Zito is slated to be the backup. Then you got Knight who sure looked good in his 6 games but only 2 of those did he go up against good competition. Would not put my hopes on him carrying that team as it rarely happens. So if anything that duo is a bigger gamble than Mrazek and Campbell. Losing Dreiger is gonna really hurt this team

Then you got the defense. Other than Weegar and Ekblad everyone else is meh.

Only good thing is their forward depth but often as we have seen in the past teams with good forward cores, meh dcores, and bad goaltending dont go far. And with the Atlantic being as tough as it is wildcard spot is probs where they land.

And thats what gives Toronto the advantage. Sure their forward depth is less but their goaltending and defense specially the top 4 is much better.

As for Colorado they got Kuemper. Kuemper had solid numbers on a bad Houston team. Put him behind Colorado's defense and I would not be surprised if he challanges for the Vezina if not winning it.

Heck now that I think about it Boston could struggle. Losing Krejci could hurt them badly as it seems the fans have little confidence in Haula, Coyle, or Foligno at the 2c Position and that could hurt them in the long run especially if they cant find a long-term solution.

Either way the Atlantic will be a blood bath and I bet all teams in that division will be riddled with injuries potentially to the point where Detroit could make it over someone

Both of his linemates of the past three seasons are gone. He's gonna have to find chemistry with new players and the guy he's the most used to play with is Lehkonen, not a top point producer.

Most of these are fine, although Norlinder’s potential is super weird on the one that includes him. Mine would be:

Nick Suzuki - 87, Elite MED
Tyler Toffoli - 85, Top 6
Brendan Gallagher - 85, Top 6
Cole Caufield - 83, Elite MED
Josh Anderson - 83, Top 6
Jonathan Drouin - 83, Top 6
Mike Hoffman - 83, Top 6
Joel Armia - 81, Top 9
Jesperi Kotkaniemi - 81, Elite MED
Artturi Lehkonen - 80, Top 9
Paul Byron - 80, Top 9
Jake Evans - 80, Top 9 MED
Mathieu Perreault - 79, Bottom 6
Cédric Paquette - 78, Bottom 6
Ryan Poehling - 78, Top 6 LOW
Alex Belzile - 77, Bottom 6
Rafaël Harvey-Pinard - 77, Bottom 6 HIGH
Jesse Ylönen - 76, Top 6 MED

Jeff Petry - 87, Elite
Joel Edmundson - 83, Top 4
David Savard - 82, Top 4
Ben Chiarot - 82, Top 4
Alexander Romanov - 79, Elite MED or Top 4 HIGH
Brett Kulak - 79, Top 6
Xavier Ouellet - 78, 7th D
Chris Wideman - 78?, 7th D? (This one is a crapshoot)
Mattias Norlinder - 76, Top 4 HIGH or Top 4 MED

Carey Price - 90, Elite
Jake Allen - 83, Starter
Cayden Primeau - 77, Starter MED
Michael McNiven - 77, AHL Starter MED

Well hopefully his finger good to go, because he already regressed offensively in the playoffs. My guess is he ends up playing with Drouin and Evans, and hopefully they can rekindle some of the magic he had with Tatar & Danault.

Couldnt find my standings from way back when for 2022 so will make a new one

NHL 2021-22 Predictions

Metro
1. Capitals -104 (this team just seems to always do amazing in the reg season)
2. Islander - 101
3. Penguins - 99
4. Canes - 98 (WC #1)
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5. Flyers -95
6. Ranger - 90
7. Devils - 88
8. Blue Jackets - 70


Atlantic
1. Tampa - 108
2. Boston - 102
3. Toronto - 100
4. Panthers - 96 (WC #2)
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5. Canadiens - 95
6. Ottawa - 79
7. Detroit - 76
8. Buffalo - 50

Central
1. Colorado - 110 (PCW)
2. Winnipeg - 104
3. Stars - 102
4. Minnesota - 100 (WC #1)
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5. Chicago - 94
6. St. Louis - 90
7. Nashville - 80
8. Houston - 56

Pacific
1. Vegas - 105
2. Calgary - 103
3. Edmonton - 102
4. Vancouver - 97 (WC #2)
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5. LA - 86
6. Kraken - 81
7. Sharks - 74
8. Ducks - 60

Awards
Art Ross: McDavid
Hart: McDavid
James Norris: First tie seen Hedman + Josi
Calder: Caufield
Vezina: Kuemper
Selke: Bergeron
Rocket: 3 way tie Ovie+Pasta+Papi


2022 Draft
Anaheim wins the Lottery

1.Anaheim - Shane Wright
2. Buffalo - Brad Lambert
3. Houston - Matthew Savoie


Playoffs Final 4
Tampa vs. Islanders
Colorado vs. Vegas


Avalanche vs Tampa

Tampa win Cup x3

Conn Smythe: Point
Thorton gets the cup 1st followed by PEB and Perry

No f*cking chance a pacific team gets a wildcard spot

Despite the Canucks being a benning team they got a better chance then St. Louis or Chicago at making it to the WC2 spot. Now if Toews returns that changes things and Chicago will be in that WC2 spot