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2021 offseason talks thread

31 jui à 11 h 52
#7751
Banni
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Finally we don’t have to suffer through god awful Beetuzzi to Toronto AGMs
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31 jui à 11 h 56
#7752
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I think we’re at a point where Sabres can’t win an Eichel trade and if he doesn’t get traded, probably gets terminated for something


The only way they can technically win is to trade him for another superstar. Like realistically if Marner and a 1st was offered for him then neither side wins or loses so to speak. Now will that happen maybe but realistically no

In general Adams should have moved him at the start of the offseason before the surgery talks came. Granted some teams hold their prospects way to high over him but still.

My guess is he will be moved in September and the rangers will give Buffalo Schneider in the end
31 jui à 12 h 01
#7753
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Quoting: aadoyle
The only way they can technically win is to trade him for another superstar. Like realistically if Marner and a 1st was offered for him then neither side wins or loses so to speak. Now will that happen maybe but realistically no

In general Adams should have moved him at the start before the surgery talks came. Granted some teams hold their prospects way to high over him but still

My guess is he will be moved in September


At this point I’d offer Sabres Kk + 1st and tell them what’s better to have, Kk and a 1st or an Eichel that wants out might not play and plummeting value, teams will penny pinch the Sabres
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31 jui à 12 h 06
#7754
Cregg Button is dumb
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Why you heff to be mad?


It’s only geme
31 jui à 12 h 18
#7755
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Apparently, the Rangers latest offer was Kravtsov, Jones, Georgiev and a 1st

Kravtsov = Kotkaniemi
Jones = Harris
Georgiev = Lehkonen
NYR 1st = MTL 1st


Ngl I'd rather take Jones and Georgiev if I'm BUF. Jones has NHL experience and is better of the two and they have virtually no goalies. But that NYR offer is lowballing as f*ck anyway.
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31 jui à 12 h 56
#7756
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Quoting: justaBoss
Ngl I'd rather take Jones and Georgiev if I'm BUF. Jones has NHL experience and is better of the two and they have virtually no goalies. But that NYR offer is lowballing as f*ck anyway.


Honestly if Jones was swapped with Schneider that deal would be on the low side of an ideal Eichel trade. To bad New York thinks to highly of the kid and dont realize he wont even get a spot on the team considering they got Lundqvist, Fox, and Trouba
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31 jui à 13 h 02
#7757
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I can't believe people are saying Jones....
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31 jui à 13 h 05
#7758
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Quoting: Devil1122




I can't believe people are saying Jones....


Jones
31 jui à 13 h 21
#7759
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Quoting: Devil1122




I can't believe people are saying Jones....


If anyone thinks Jones was the better move, i don’t know what to say to you, Dougie’s better, cheaper and has less term
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31 jui à 13 h 57
#7760
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Quoting: aadoyle
The only way they can technically win is to trade him for another superstar. Like realistically if Marner and a 1st was offered for him then neither side wins or loses so to speak. Now will that happen maybe but realistically no

In general Adams should have moved him at the start of the offseason before the surgery talks came. Granted some teams hold their prospects way to high over him but still.

My guess is he will be moved in September and the rangers will give Buffalo Schneider in the end


It would be Erik Karlsson/Max Pacioretty 2.0, but I think the surgery complicates that quite a bit. Plus Eichel is different from those 2 situations in that negotiating an extension isn’t a factor.
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31 jui à 13 h 58
#7761
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Are they actually legally able to prevent him from getting surgery? Because I don’t see why he can’t just get it now, and whatever team he’s on in the fall has to deal with it.


This is actually the sad reality of a lot of Americans in general. Wanting surgery but not getting approved even though they’re symptomatic. In Canada of surgery is an option and regular medical therapy isn’t enough, you can find a surgeon to do the surgery. It might take you months to get it, but you’ll get it. God bless Canada
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31 jui à 13 h 59
#7762
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Quoting: aadoyle
Honestly if Jones was swapped with Schneider that deal would be on the low side of an ideal Eichel trade. To bad New York thinks to highly of the kid and dont realize he wont even get a spot on the team considering they got Lundqvist, Fox, and Trouba


If I had to deal Eichel to NYR I'd honestly want Laffy or Kakko in return. I wouldn't be interested in their second rate prospects.
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31 jui à 14 h 32
#7763
I heff to be mad...
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Warren Foegele close to a 3 year 2.75M extension
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31 jui à 14 h 33
#7764
I heff to be mad...
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Kiviranta signed to 2 year, 1.05M AAV

Dallas Stars
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31 jui à 14 h 36
#7765
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
If anyone thinks Jones was the better move, i don’t know what to say to you, Dougie’s better, cheaper and has less term


Plus it didn't take 2 firsts and Boqvist to get Dougie
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31 jui à 14 h 36
#7766
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Jones


Cap
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31 jui à 14 h 58
#7767
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So its funny was looking at the JP Barry stuff with Petterson and Hughes and you should see Canuck fans comments

Oh Petey and Hughes will sign 8 years at 5-6mill. tears of joy.

Nah

At best you get Petey at 7x3yrs
and for Hughes well he does not want 8 years so 6 years at 7-8mill be the guess. Then again Werenski puts a dent in that logic so he may make 9 lul

The funny part was the cap space citing as yeah Canucks got 15mill in space but thats gonna be gone fast
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31 jui à 15 h 10
#7768
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Quoting: aadoyle
So its funny was looking at the JP Barry stuff with Petterson and Hughes and you should see Canuck fans comments

Oh Petey and Hughes will sign 8 years at 5-6mill. tears of joy.

Nah

At best you get Petey at 7x3yrs
and for Hughes well he does not want 8 years so 6 years at 7-8mill be the guess. Then again Werenski puts a dent in that logic so he may make 9 lul

The funny part was the cap space citing as yeah Canucks got 15mill in space but thats gonna be gone fast


Hughes gonna want the shortest term possible that gets him to UFA so he can head to NJD

Graves - Hamilton
Hughes - Hughes
Smith - Severson

🥵🥵🥵
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31 jui à 15 h 14
#7769
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Quoting: yikes
Hughes gonna want the shortest term possible that gets him to UFA so he can head to NJD

Graves - Hamilton
Hughes - Hughes
Smith - Severson

🥵🥵🥵


Based on Barry's comments thats what he must be planning lul. Dont know if NJ will be able to afford him but hey all 3 brothers on 1 team why not
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31 jui à 15 h 32
#7770
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If the Flames were to offersheet someone, who should they attempt to? I am thinking Svechnikov or Pettersson.
31 jui à 15 h 37
#7771
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Quoting: Gmonwy
If the Flames were to offersheet someone, who should they attempt to? I am thinking Svechnikov or Pettersson.

Would have to be Petey because we need a centre, don’t think we have the cap room for an offer sheet now though (unless we ship out Monahan but shipping out Monahan before we have a guaranteed replacement for him is not a great idea).
31 jui à 15 h 39
#7772
Its Tru-deau
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Quoting: Gmonwy
If the Flames were to offersheet someone, who should they attempt to? I am thinking Svechnikov or Pettersson.


They can't afford either.
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31 jui à 15 h 45
#7773
I heff to be mad...
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Quoting: Gmonwy
If the Flames were to offersheet someone, who should they attempt to? I am thinking Svechnikov or Pettersson.


They can afford Evgeny Svechnikov
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31 jui à 15 h 54
#7774
I heff to be mad...
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Riley Nash

1 Year × 750k

Winnipeg Jets
31 jui à 15 h 55
#7775
I heff to be mad...
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Spencer Martin traded to Vancouver Canucks for 0

Tampa Bay Lightning Vancouver Canucks
 
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