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2021 offseason talks thread

29 jui à 13 h 39
#7301
I heff to be mad...
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Seney! I guess, dirty hit against Dermott

Toronto Maple Leafs
29 jui à 13 h 40
#7302
Hakuna Matata
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Didn't I say perry would sign with tampa after the finals

SUS KING
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29 jui à 13 h 43
#7303
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Quoting: yikes
Got a fun idea for the toronto_maple_leafs.svgsan_jose_sharks.svg

Leafs want a top 6 add..

A lot of opinion on Labanc but one thing I can state is he is worth his cap analytically (His 5 on 5 stats rank him around 5m dollars for example) - and he had bad luck according to analytics the year before. He is a top 6 winger whos shown upside. His points may not be high but he was quite good this year overall (and you know he'll rack points up with the Leafs, as he plays PP and top 6 minutes).

Labanc
Gambrell (50% ret.)

for

Kerfoot
Amirov
Pick (I'd say 2022 2nd but I acknowledge that's a high price as I really like Amirov too, prob a 3rd or something with conditions maybe?)

Gambrell takes 3C, at 550k cap hit. Labanc basically eats a tad more of the Kerfoot cap move but it still allows cap flexibility for the Leafs while both getting a top 6 winger and still having a 3C. I think Labanc fits perfectly with Tavares and Nylander (but would do well with the AM, MM).


If tatar goes to another team could happen. I think Dubas wantd to use FA before trade but things could change
29 jui à 13 h 43
#7304
MERCER SZN
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Trade Candidates
Adam Henrique
Rickard Rakell
Josh Manson
Hampus Lindholm
Sean Monahan
Mikko Koskinen
Timo Meier
Tomas Hertl
Kevin Lablanc
Reilly Smith
Phil Kessel
Christian Dvorak
Dylan Strome
Calvin De Haan
Nazem Kadri
Blake Comeau
Anton Khudobin
Victor Rask
Filip Forsberg
Mattias Ekholm
Vladamir Tarasenko
Jake DeBrusk
Jack Eichel
Joonas Korpisalo
Andreas Johnsson
Leo Komarov
Alexander Georgiev
Ryan Strome
James van Riemsdyk
Jason Zucker
Tristian Jarry
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Justin Schultz
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29 jui à 13 h 44
#7305
Jinx lord
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Quoting: aadoyle
Didn't I say perry would sign with tampa after the finals

SUS KING


sus detected
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29 jui à 13 h 45
#7306
Hakuna Matata
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Quoting: Devil1122
Trade Candidates
Adam Henrique
Rickard Rakell
Josh Manson
Hampus Lindholm
Sean Monahan
Mikko Koskinen
Timo Meier
Tomas Hertl
Kevin Lablanc
Reilly Smith
Phil Kessel
Christian Dvorak
Dylan Strome
Calvin De Haan
Nazem Kadri
Blake Comeau
Anton Khudobin
Victor Rask
Filip Forsberg
Mattias Ekholm
Vladamir Tarasenko
Jake DeBrusk
Jack Eichel
Joonas Korpisalo
Andreas Johnsson
Leo Komarov
Alexander Georgiev
Ryan Strome
James van Riemsdyk
Jason Zucker
Tristian Jarry
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Justin Schultz


Morgan rielly if he does not extend
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29 jui à 13 h 45
#7307
v5 CBJ GM
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Quoting: Alfie11
Do you not realize that antagonistic and obnoxious to play against perfectly describes Maroon, Coleman, Goodrow, etc. as well lmao


Yeah, Perry fits with their style of play
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29 jui à 13 h 53
#7308
MTL AGM v5
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The only teams without a Stanley Cup winner on their roster are:
-Buffalo Sabres
-Columbus Blue Jackets
-Nashville Predators
-New York Islanders
-Winnipeg Jets
29 jui à 13 h 56
#7309
AKA Pezzetta23
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Quoting: SevenLeg
The only teams without a Stanley Cup winner on their roster are:
-Buffalo Sabres
-Columbus Blue Jackets
-Nashville Predators
-New York Islanders
-Winnipeg Jets


Although the Isles MVP, Barry Trotz, does have a cup.
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29 jui à 13 h 58
#7310
MTL AGM v5
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https://www.sporcle.com/games/cedlec19/active-stanley-cup

if y'all wanna guess who they are
29 jui à 14 h 16
#7311
Buffalo Sabres
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What teams have the best young cores? Under 25.
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29 jui à 14 h 20
#7312
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What teams have the best young cores? Under 25.


Colorado comes to mind first, Toronto then.
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29 jui à 14 h 22
#7313
Jinx lord
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What teams have the best young cores? Under 25.


Not Dallas
29 jui à 14 h 24
#7314
v5 CBJ GM
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What teams have the best young cores? Under 25.


Montreal 😉
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29 jui à 14 h 25
#7315
LETS GO LIGHTNING
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What teams have the best young cores? Under 25.


Coyotes will in a couple of years, as will the Red Wings
29 jui à 14 h 25
#7316
Sit back and relax..
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What teams have the best young cores? Under 25.


NJD, Ottawa, Leafs, Avs, LA

Definitely the “brightest” teams in the league imo, by large margins.

Close by I would consider DET (obvious), MTL (not quantity but quality), CBJ (a lot of work and progress needed tho)
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29 jui à 14 h 30
#7317
Buffalo Sabres
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Quoting: yikes
NJD, Ottawa, Leafs, Avs, LA

Definitely the “brightest” teams in the league imo, by large margins.

Close by I would consider DET (obvious), MTL (not quantity but quality), CBJ (a lot of work and progress needed tho)


Quoting: ConservativeLightningFan91
Coyotes will in a couple of years, as will the Red Wings


Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Montreal 😉


Quoting: SevenLeg
Colorado comes to mind first, Toronto then.


What about the sabres never gets them in these lists? I think they have one of the brightest but they are never mentioned.
29 jui à 14 h 30
#7318
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What teams have the best young cores? Under 25.


Jack Hughes, Nico Hischier, Jesper Bratt, Pavel Zacha, Yegor Sharangovich, Alexander Holtz, Dawson Mercer, Nolan Foote, Ty Smith, Shakir Mukhamudullin, Luke Hughes, MacKenzie Blackwood
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29 jui à 14 h 31
#7319
Cregg Button is dumb
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What about the sabres never gets them in these lists? I think they have one of the brightest but they are never mentioned.

Cuz they always find a way to f it up. If the pegulas didn’t own them they would def be mentioned more
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29 jui à 14 h 31
#7320
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What about the sabres never gets them in these lists? I think they have one of the brightest but they are never mentioned.


They have Cozens, Dahlin & Power. I wonder what they're going to do with two #1 overall LDs
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29 jui à 14 h 31
#7321
LETS GO LIGHTNING
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Quoting: Devil1122
Jack Hughes, Nico Hischier, Jesper Bratt, Pavel Zacha, Yegor Sharangovich, Alexander Holtz, Dawson Mercer, Nolan Foote, Ty Smith, Shakir Mukhamudullin, Luke Hughes, MacKenzie Blackwood


Pretty darn good
29 jui à 14 h 35
#7322
Sit back and relax..
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Modifié 29 jui à 14 h 41
Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
What about the sabres never gets them in these lists? I think they have one of the brightest but they are never mentioned.


I hated the Quinn pick, I think Powers is great but not amazing (like I’d prefer Clarke (but selecting Clarke 1st OA is just way to risky)), cozens is great but I really was disappointed by his WJ finals performance.

Cozens is great again as I said but he seems very cocky almost (just my opinion not fact). And his effort level seems to be with that egotistical type and he really underperformed in the high pressure situation of the finals and racked up a ton of points prior to a difficult finals; where he was a GHOST IN THE FINALS. Guys like Newhook and Mercer still performed despite no points in the final but Cozens played with a cocky attitude and did not learn from shift to shift; and ended with a lacklustre performance.

JJP is solid. UPL is good too, Other than that I don’t see much.

Imo if they didn’t pick Quinn and if I had a higher opinion of Cozens then I’d rate them higher.

Yes players can struggle but Cozens showed a lack of compete, competency. He did not learn at any points during the game and didn’t do anything to change that. Guys like Mercer worked despite struggling and adapted. Cozen did the polar opposite.

And no I’m not tryna suck off mercer and hype up @devil1122 lol. He’s just a great example for comparing to Cozens.
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29 jui à 14 h 37
#7323
Disappointed in you
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Quoting: yikes
Got a fun idea for the toronto_maple_leafs.svgsan_jose_sharks.svg

Leafs want a top 6 add..

A lot of opinion on Labanc but one thing I can state is he is worth his cap analytically (His 5 on 5 stats rank him around 5m dollars for example) - and he had bad luck according to analytics the year before. He is a top 6 winger whos shown upside. His points may not be high but he was quite good this year overall (and you know he'll rack points up with the Leafs, as he plays PP and top 6 minutes).

Labanc
Gambrell (50% ret.)

for

Kerfoot
Amirov
Pick (I'd say 2022 2nd but I acknowledge that's a high price as I really like Amirov too, prob a 3rd or something with conditions maybe?)

Gambrell takes 3C, at 550k cap hit. Labanc basically eats a tad more of the Kerfoot cap move but it still allows cap flexibility for the Leafs while both getting a top 6 winger and still having a 3C. I think Labanc fits perfectly with Tavares and Nylander (but would do well with the AM, MM).


Imo that's an overpayment by the Leafs. Nothing short of the 18-19 campaign jusfifies Labanc bringing back a return of what is effectively a 1st+2nd+3rd in terms of value, and the guy has regressed statistically from that. Dubas would only pay for what he was achieved in SJ, not for what he might do in the future with Matthews and Marner. Gambrell isn't much more than an add on to the trade, he doesn't bring much value for the Leafs who already have three players that could play the same role with similar results (Spezza, Kämpf, even Brooks and Engvall to an extent).

Last two years Labanc has been a 40 point winger earning almost $5M a year. I personally do not see real high value in that. From the correct market I could see him garnering a first, but nothing more.
29 jui à 14 h 40
#7324
Buffalo Sabres
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Quoting: Devil1122
Jack Hughes, Nico Hischier, Jesper Bratt, Pavel Zacha, Yegor Sharangovich, Alexander Holtz, Dawson Mercer, Nolan Foote, Ty Smith, Shakir Mukhamudullin, Luke Hughes, MacKenzie Blackwood


Still on the sabres
Eichel, Cozens, Guy we got from Boston, Mittlstadt, Dahlin, Power, Quinn, Jason John Peterka, UPL, Sammuellson, Johnson, Asplund, Roustallainen, Thompson, Bryson, Jokiharju, Almost Ollofson... Rosen
29 jui à 14 h 40
#7325
Buffalo Sabres
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Still on the sabres
Eichel, Cozens, Bjork, Mittlstadt, Dahlin, Power, Quinn, Jason John Peterka, UPL, Sammuellson, Johnson, Asplund, Roustallainen, Thompson, Bryson, Jokiharju, Almost Ollofson...Rosen


Quoting: yikes
I hated the Quinn pick, I think Powers is great but not amazing (like I’d prefer Clarke (but selecting Clarke 1st OA is just way to risky)), cozens is great but I really was disappointed by his WJ finals performance.

Cozens is great again as I said but he seems very cocky almost (just my opinion not fact). And his effort level seems to be with that egotistical type and he really underperformed in the high pressure situation of the finals and racked up a ton of points prior to a difficult finals; where he was a GHOST IN THE FINALS. Guys like Newhook and Mercer still performed despite no points in the final but Cozens played with a cocky attitude and did not learn from shift to shift; and ended with a lacklustre performance.

JJP is solid. UPL is good too, Other than that I don’t see much.

Imo if they didn’t pick Quinn and if I had a higher opinion of Cozens then I’d rate them higher.

Yes players can struggle but Cozens showed a lack of compete, competency. He did not learn at any points during the game and didn’t do anything to change that. Guys like Mercer worked despite struggling and adapted. Cozen did the polar opposite.


Quoting: SevenLeg
They have Cozens, Dahlin & Power. I wonder what they're going to do with two #1 overall LDs
 
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