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21 juill. 2021 à 21 h 50
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Kraken management dreams of Shane Wright for the next 12 months.
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21 juill. 2021 à 21 h 51
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Sounds like I was smart not to pay $10 for the 1 week Sportsnet subscription, lol.


You guys don't have ESPN in Canada?
21 juill. 2021 à 21 h 51
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I actually can’t believe the Seattle Kraken could be the worst team in the Pacific… on purpose.. without side deals….

Ron Francis and company have actually trolled Seattle fans - and that 630 million dollar fee for a half assed draft.

Not even personal bias. That was a terribly constructed draft.


They're trying to outank the Sharks
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21 juill. 2021 à 21 h 51
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Why is everyone trashing on Seattle’s roster? Is it just because the expansion draft was boring?

Because if we think back to our thoughts on Vegas after the expansion draft, I’d say this team is better on paper than the Golden Knights were before their first season.


If YOU had CAREY Frickin' PRICE sitting there at centre-ice waiting to have his stick picked out from the pile to play on your new team...would you pick someone named Cale instead...?
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21 juill. 2021 à 21 h 53
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After the classic two shots of vodka I've come to conclusion that they will be making lots and lots of D-men for picks deals.

Or not. After this one, I can't expect nothing from Francis.

Time for another round cheers
21 juill. 2021 à 21 h 53
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Why is everyone trashing on Seattle’s roster? Is it just because the expansion draft was boring?

Because if we think back to our thoughts on Vegas after the expansion draft, I’d say this team is better on paper than the Golden Knights were before their first season.

Edit: Now obviously Vegas was in a better position for the future because they had 2 extra 1sts, but Seattle is looking better in the short term than Vegas was in the summer of 2017.


Not the team itself really but just the pure misses or lack of deals. Seattle had the opportunity to surpass Vegas by miles. In terms of future development and pairing it with a quality roster.

Instead they did nothing. No side deals is actually unacceptable imo if I even invested 10,000$ not to mention the actual near billion dollars spent
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21 juill. 2021 à 21 h 55
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Quoting: McGruff
If YOU had CAREY Frickin' PRICE sitting there at centre-ice waiting to have his stick picked out from the pile to play on your new team...would you pick someone named Cale instead...?


The Price omission isn’t a problem; it’s the lack of side deals and glaring misses. Bean is a massive hole that’s shows personal bias because the fact NINO and BEAN were “worse” than Geekie is just disgusting. Something is wrong mentally there. At least the Price decision had fair arguments ( star goalie but term and health issues and 10+ mil) for both sides. Leaving Bean and Nino are just… there’s no words.
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 3
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Quoting: yikes
The price omission isn’t a problem; it’s the lack of side deals and glaring misses. Bean is a massive hole that’s shows personal bias because the fact NINO and BEAN were “worse” than Geekie is just disgusting. Something is wrong mentally there. At least the Price decision had fair arguments for both sides. Leaving Bean and Nino are just… there’s no words.


You may think that's not a probelm - no problem; get it haha...
But I want to get my US$650M + + money back before I pass and CP moves the needle!
He gets merch flowing more than the other '30' by mile$$ and he can be flipped later, if it chokes, to a playoff sheep club needing assurance in goal for a run...
Ron Francis will be an an-al-yst @ ESPN by Xmas...
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 4
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Quoting: McGruff
You may think that's not a probelm - no problem; get it haha...
But I want to get my US$650M + + money back before I pass and CP moves the needle! He gets merch flowing more than the other '30' by mile$$ and he can be flipped later, if it chokes, to a playoff sheep club needing assurance in goal for a run...
Ron Francis will be an an-al-yst @ ESPN by Xmas...


Oh I woulda picked Price personally - but it makes sense as to why to leave it. Look at this teammate Weber and the situation it may cause in Montreal.

But there was worse decisions imo
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 7
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This Expansion Draft is giving me flashbacks of the awfully long rebuild Francis put us through. Good luck Kraken, you're gonna need it.
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 7
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This team is going to be a car crash that's just as bad as the Sabres and Sens. Say what you will about the Vegas expansion, at least McPhee had a clear vision and made clever side trades to get assets like Tuch and Theodore. NONE of these picks didn't come from side deals, meaning every last one of these players were of Francis' own pickings. And judging from what we've seen today with the overpayment of Oleksiak and picking up Larsson who might decline in his stint there, I wouldn't hold my breath on them making the correct decisions and signing the right players in the FA and trade windows.

This team, especially as it stands, will struggle mightily in the league. Even in a weak Pacific Division, they will do well to not finish at the bottom given the lack of offensive depth and the risk of using Driedger as a starter (who alarmingly reminds me of Scott Darling, an infamous Carolina signing by, you guessed it, Francis).
21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 7
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If I were the Kraken gm I simply would have taken the best players on the best contracts possible but maybe I’m just built dif
21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 10
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
If I were the Kraken gm I simply would have taken the best players on the best contracts possible but maybe I’m just built dif


They only did that for 4 teams: isles, leafs , blues, and lightning
21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 12
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
If I were the Kraken gm I simply would have taken the best players on the best contracts possible but maybe I’m just built dif


If I were the Kraken GM I’d have drafted NHLers
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 14
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
If I were the Kraken gm I simply would have taken the best players on the best contracts possible but maybe I’m just built dif


Yes - like the NHL draft take the 'best on the board.'
If you pick a 'MoFo' doesn't want to be a Starbuck - trade him to the KHL (drastic example useage only)
RF - take your ball-z out of the sack and pick a G-D-Team not the politically correct touchy-feely bunch of misfits/ECHL skaters
21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 17
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
Kraken management dreams of Shane Wright for the next 12 months.


Detroit Curse has been placed upon them

4th OA forever, Detroit can get anything else now
21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 17
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My take on who they should've picked with no side deals in place

ANA - Fleury
ARI - Pitlick
BOS - Lauzon
BUF - Borgen
CGY - Giordano
CAR - Bean
CHI - De Haan
COL - Donskoi
CBJ - Kukan
DAL - Comeau*
DET - Stecher
EDM - Larsson
FLA - Driedger
LA - Clague
MIN - Kähkönen
MTL - Price
NSH - Järnkrok
NJ - Bastian
NYR - Blackwell
NYI - Eberle
OTT - Daccord
PHI - Van Riemsdyk
PIT - Pettersson
STL - Tarasenko
SJ - Gambrell
TB - Gourde
TOR - McCann
VAN - Lind
WSH - Vanecek
WPG - Appleton

*note: if Oleksiak costs that much Comeau would've made more sense

Then roll the lines
Van Riemsdyk - McCann - Tarasenko
Donskoi - Gourde - Eberle
Järnkrok - Appleton - Lind
Comeau - Blackwell - Bastian

Giordano - Larsson
Bean - De Haan
Pettersson - Lauzon

Driedger
Kähkönen

Reserves: Clague, Borgen, Gambrell

LTIR: Price - he'd be out anyway for a good while due to that injury.

That roster would be at around $69M in cap. And with Price coming back it'd be $79M.

Trade Vanecek, Stecher, Fleury, Pitlick and Kukan for future assets. Given their low cap hit and favorable roles in other teams they could actually make huge wins out of them.

Daccord can be slotted in the AHL since he's waivers exempt.
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 17
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
#DontReleaseTheKraken


#0WINKRAKEN82GAMES LETS GO
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 18
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
If I were the Kraken gm I simply would have taken the best players on the best contracts possible but maybe I’m just built dif


actually made me laugh
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 18
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My take on who they should've picked with no side deals in place

ANA - Fleury
ARI - Pitlick
BOS - Lauzon
BUF - Borgen
CGY - Giordano
CAR - Bean
CHI - De Haan
COL - Donskoi
CBJ - Kukan
DAL - Comeau*
DET - Stecher
EDM - Larsson
FLA - Driedger
LA - Clague
MIN - Kähkönen
MTL - Price
NSH - Järnkrok
NJ - Bastian
NYR - Blackwell
NYI - Eberle
OTT - Daccord
PHI - Van Riemsdyk
PIT - Pettersson
STL - Tarasenko
SJ - Gambrell
TB - Gourde
TOR - McCann
VAN - Lind
WSH - Vanecek
WPG - Appleton

*note: if Oleksiak costs that much Comeau would've made more sense

Then roll the lines
Van Riemsdyk - McCann - Tarasenko
Donskoi - Gourde - Eberle
Järnkrok - Appleton - Lind
Comeau - Blackwell - Bastian

Giordano - Larsson
Bean - De Haan
Pettersson - Lauzon

Driedger
Kähkönen

Reserves: Clague, Borgen, Gambrell

LTIR: Price - he'd be out anyway for a good while due to that injury.

That roster would be at around $69M in cap. And with Price coming back it'd be $79M.

Trade Vanecek, Stecher, Blackwell, Fleury, Pitlick and Kukan for future assets. Given their low cap hit and favorable roles in other teams they could actually make huge wins out of them.

Daccord can be slotted in the AHL since he's waivers exempt.


were on the same wave length basically (Id change a small few things and mainly I'd change, to true and trade tarasenko)

Plus Price and Driedger could do the Price and Allen duo so it makes all the more sense for a playoff push
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 18
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Hyman will be traded to the Oilers tomorrow. 8 years 5.5-6M
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 19
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Quoting: Isles777
They only did that for 4 teams: isles, leafs , blues, and lightning


Yeah for **** sakes. Favoritism at best

Hope each of these teams destroys them on the score sheet

Barzel 6 goals
Matthews 7 goals
Point 7 goals
O'Rielly 5 goals
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 19
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Quoting: Devil1122
Hyman will be traded to the Oilers tomorrow. 8 years 5.5-6M


Only thing that will make me somewhat happy over my time being wasted watching a stupid squid take 30 guys we already knew about
21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 20
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Quoting: justaBoss
My take on who they should've picked with no side deals in place

ANA - Fleury
ARI - Pitlick
BOS - Lauzon
BUF - Borgen
CGY - Giordano
CAR - Bean
CHI - De Haan
COL - Donskoi
CBJ - Kukan
DAL - Comeau*
DET - Stecher
EDM - Larsson
FLA - Driedger
LA - Clague
MIN - Kähkönen
MTL - Price
NSH - Järnkrok
NJ - Bastian
NYR - Blackwell
NYI - Eberle
OTT - Daccord
PHI - Van Riemsdyk
PIT - Pettersson
STL - Tarasenko
SJ - Gambrell
TB - Gourde
TOR - McCann
VAN - Lind
WSH - Vanecek
WPG - Appleton

*note: if Oleksiak costs that much Comeau would've made more sense

Then roll the lines
Van Riemsdyk - McCann - Tarasenko
Donskoi - Gourde - Eberle
Järnkrok - Appleton - Lind
Comeau - Blackwell - Bastian

Giordano - Larsson
Bean - De Haan
Pettersson - Lauzon

Driedger
Kähkönen

Reserves: Clague, Borgen, Gambrell

LTIR: Price - he'd be out anyway for a good while due to that injury.

That roster would be at around $69M in cap. And with Price coming back it'd be $79M.

Trade Vanecek, Stecher, Fleury, Pitlick and Kukan for future assets. Given their low cap hit and favorable roles in other teams they could actually make huge wins out of them.

Daccord can be slotted in the AHL since he's waivers exempt.


Go to sleep 😂

I agree with all of the picks except Columbus. Domi>Kukan
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21 juill. 2021 à 22 h 20
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Quoting: Devil1122
Shane Wright SZN for the Kraken


Nah 4th OA pick season

Officially giving them the Detroit curse

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