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Sabres go with USA development team

Créé par: BigDog91
Date de création initiale: jun 6, 2021
Publié: 6 jun à 18 h 14
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Mittelstadt, Casey22 000 000 $
Dahlin, Rasmus28 000 000 $
Borgen, William21 000 000 $
Asplund, Rasmus21 000 000 $
Jokiharju, Henri43 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Ullmark, Linus56 000 000 $
Hamilton, Dougie78 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Berniers, Mathew3925 000 $
Powers, Owen3925 000 $
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BUF
  1. Björnfot, Tobias
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. Kaliyev, Arthur
  4. 2021 1e round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Zegras, Trevor
  2. Larsson, Jacob
  3. 2021 1e round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
  2. Olofsson, Victor
BUF
    ANA
    1. Eakin, Cody
    2. Miller, Colin
    3. 2021 3e round pick (MTL)
    BUF
    1. Ladd, Andrew
    2. 2022 1e round pick (NYI)
    NYI
      BUF
      1. Tkachuk, Matthew
      CGY
      1. Thompson, Tage
      2. Larsson, Jacob
      3. Kaliyev, Arthur
      4. 2021 1e round pick (LAK)
      5. 2022 1e round pick (NYI)
      BUF
      1. Korpisalo, Joonas
      CBJ
      1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
      Rachats de contrats
      • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
      • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
      • Andrew Ladd: 4 833 333 $
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      BUF
      BUF
      BUF
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      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      CGY
      Tkachuk, Matthew
      7 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
      BUF
      Cozens, Dylan
      894 167 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 2
      BUF
      Skinner, Jeff
      9 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      BUF
      Ruotsalainen, Arttu
      925 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
      LAK
      Turcotte, Alex
      894 167 $
      C
      RFA - 3
      BUF
      Mittelstadt, Casey
      2 000 000 $
      C
      RFA
      Berniers, Mathew
      925 000 $
      ANA
      Zegras, Trevor
      925 000 $
      C
      RFA - 2
      BUF
      Quinn, Jack
      894 167 $
      AD
      RFA - 3
      BUF
      Bjork, Anders
      1 600 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 2
      BUF
      Asplund, Rasmus
      1 000 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA
      BUF
      Okposo, Kyle
      6 000 000 $
      AD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      BUF
      Dahlin, Rasmus
      8 000 000 $
      DG
      RFA
      BUF
      Jokiharju, Henri
      3 000 000 $
      DD
      RFA
      BUF
      Ullmark, Linus
      6 000 000 $
      G
      UFA
      LAK
      Björnfot, Tobias
      894 167 $
      DG
      RFA - 2
      Hamilton, Dougie
      8 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA
      CBJ
      Korpisalo, Joonas
      2 800 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Powers, Owen
      925 000 $
      BUF
      Borgen, William
      1 000 000 $
      DD
      RFA
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      BUF
      Bryson, Jacob
      889 166 $
      DG
      RFA - 1
      BUF
      Girgensons, Zemgus
      2 200 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 2

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      6 jun à 18 h 15
      #1
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      Flames decline. Its not even close
      6 jun à 18 h 18
      #2
      Démarrer sujet
      BigDog91
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      Quoting: Gmonwy
      Flames decline. Its not even close

      So your saying 5 first round picks is not enough???? Are u crazy. I think is more then enough
      6 jun à 18 h 19
      #3
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      Quoting: BigDog91
      So your saying 5 first round picks is not enough???? Are u crazy. I think is more then enough


      We aren't trading Tkachuk unless we get a 1c back sorry.
      6 jun à 18 h 19
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      Matthew Tkchuck is not happy
      6 jun à 18 h 23
      #5
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      Why would you want Tkachuk if he's just going to go to arbitration for a 1 year deal to UFA in Buffalo?
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      6 jun à 18 h 31
      #6
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      Just a debate for BUF fans. If the 1st overall is Powers, should they trade the pick?

      I just don't see how Power makes this a better team. He's big, not the fastest Dman, and he has some physicality but they have 2 of that already in their top 4 and frankly defensemen are kind of hit or miss and typically slow to make an impact especially at 18.
      Beniers would be a nice pick he's probably gone at 2. I doubt Seattle makes a deal as they will have more than enough adequate Dmen. So the question lies in how to move down and with whom.
      6 jun à 18 h 36
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      Anaheim laughs and hangs up
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      6 jun à 18 h 40
      #8
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      Kings very much decline this offer

      Ducks also decline

      Stop the overvaluing of the players
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      6 jun à 18 h 59
      #9
      Charts are good
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      Reinhart is good but he's not worth Zegras and the 3rd pick even if it's in a bad draft
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      6 jun à 19 h 00
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      Why would you want Tkachuk if he's just going to go to arbitration for a 1 year deal to UFA in Buffalo?


      He is under team control for 3 years. The Sabres would match whatever an arbitor awarded and take it for the 2 years after this year if he didn't want to sign a long term deal. Obviously if they believe he will walk after the 3 years they would trade him prior to him becoming ufa and get quality assets back
      6 jun à 19 h 12
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      Quoting: dzmets
      He is under team control for 3 years. The Sabres would match whatever an arbitor awarded and take it for the 2 years after this year if he didn't want to sign a long term deal. Obviously if they believe he will walk after the 3 years they would trade him prior to him becoming ufa and get quality assets back


      No, since he will be in his final year of restricted free agency he can only be awarded 1 year of term in arbitration
      6 jun à 19 h 15
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      No, since he will be in his final year of restricted free agency he can only be awarded 1 year of term in arbitration


      That still gives them 2 seasons and then they can flip him for assets if he doesn't want to resign
      6 jun à 19 h 18
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      Quoting: BigDog91
      So your saying 5 first round picks is not enough???? Are u crazy. I think is more then enough

      That’s not 5 1sts LOL Larsson and Thompson may have been drafted in the 1st round but they no longer have CLOSE to that kind of value. They are a 3rd pair D and 4th liner at best, respectively. They have next to no value, you could literally take them out of the deal and nobody would notice or care. And Kaliyev was a recent 2nd. Tkachuk is worth far more than this in futures, but he’s not getting traded for futures. Or at all unless a top 10 C is coming back.
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      6 jun à 19 h 28
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      Quoting: dzmets
      That still gives them 2 seasons and then they can flip him for assets if he doesn't want to resign


      I guess but you loose a lot of value if he doesnt want to resign. Flames dont want to trade Tkachuk anyways. At least not for anything less than a deal around Eichel
      6 jun à 19 h 33
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      I guess but you loose a lot of value if he doesnt want to resign. Flames dont want to trade Tkachuk anyways. At least not for anything less than a deal around Eichel


      They may not want to trade him but they are likely in a similar position to Buffalo if they keep him where he will want out in 2 years
      6 jun à 19 h 35
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      Quoting: dzmets
      They may not want to trade him but they are likely in a similar position to Buffalo if they keep him where he will want out in 2 years


      Not really, people aren't trying to force their way out of Calgary and they are likely making the playoffs next year
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      6 jun à 19 h 44
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      Wouldnt trade just Zegras for Reinhart and power play boy 😂
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      6 jun à 19 h 45
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      Not really, people aren't trying to force their way out of Calgary and they are likely making the playoffs next year


      It will likely be as 7 or 8 seed and another first round exit so not necessarily appealing for him to stay in a small market that has never got past the first round of the playoffs in his career and is in high tax Canada. I am sure it would be quite appealing to go to a stronger contender in a tax haven and a bigger market. Perhaps Florida, Vegas or Dallas
      6 jun à 19 h 49
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      Quoting: dzmets
      It will likely be as 7 or 8 seed and another first round exit so not necessarily appealing for him to stay in a small market that has never got past the first round of the playoffs in his career and is in high tax Canada. I am sure it would be quite appealing to go to a stronger contender in a tax haven and a bigger market. Perhaps Florida, Vegas or Dallas


      Alberta has lower tax than most states in the US... especially since conversion rate favors them
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      6 jun à 19 h 52
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      Alberta has lower tax than most states in the US... especially since conversion rate favors them


      There are only 4 US markets he would be taxed more in. The California teams and Minnesota. The 3 US markets I mentioned he would make close to 700k more per year American on his current deal
      6 jun à 19 h 54
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      Quoting: dzmets
      There are only 4 US markets he would be taxed more in. The California teams and Minnesota. The 3 US markets I mentioned he would make close to 700k more per year American on his current deal


      You aren't accounting for USD to CAD conversion rate, players on Canadian teams are still paid in USD
      6 jun à 20 h 01
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      You aren't accounting for USD to CAD conversion rate, players on Canadian teams are still paid in USD


      You are assuming he would rather live in Calgary year round rather than elsewhere. The cost of living is extremely low in Buffalo as compared to other markets but that doesn't mean that all of their players want to leave herewhere their dollar does go further
      6 jun à 20 h 04
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      Quoting: dzmets
      There are only 4 US markets he would be taxed more in. The California teams and Minnesota. The 3 US markets I mentioned he would make close to 700k more per year American on his current deal


      NY State has worst tax climate in US.
      Thousands are leaving, state spending rising.
      6 jun à 20 h 05
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      Quoting: dzmets
      You are assuming he would rather live in Calgary year round rather than elsewhere. The cost of living is extremely low in Buffalo as compared to other markets but that doesn't mean that all of their players want to leave herewhere their dollar does go further


      I'm not assuming anything, you are the one bringing in living conditions into this. He wont resign with Buffalo because they are rebuilding
      6 jun à 20 h 20
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      First NY Then LA
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      We wouldn't trade the third overall selection in this draft for Reinhart and Olofsson. But Los Angeles might trade the eighth overall selection for them. They need Reinhart more than they need Eichel. But you'd have to add because Reinhart is a rental.
       
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