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An interesting idea but leafs wont do it

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Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 4 juin 2021
Publié: 5 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
57 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
55 500 000 $
14 000 000 $
43 850 000 $
21 850 000 $
11 100 000 $
22 000 000 $
1900 000 $
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TOR
SEA
  1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
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TOR
  1. Tkachuk, Brady [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Marner, Mitchell
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Marner is a 100 point player. Also his cap hit is higher than his money paid $8,000,000
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TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 20
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Ottawa isn't trading Tkachuk
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 22
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well i’m glad you won’t do it because ottawa doesn’t even consider it. like, you say tkachuk the sens say no, you don’t even get to the part where you offer marner
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 27
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the insult here is that you want the sens to add a pick?
5 juin 2021 à 0 h 35
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the insult here is that you want the sens to add a pick?


I know Marner just whiffed in the playoffs but come on man he's a 100 point player, Tkachuk is like a 50 point guy at this point. You're overvaluing your own guy
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 40
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Quoting: hairyberry
I know Marner just whiffed in the playoffs but come on man he's a 100 point player, Tkachuk is like a 50 point guy at this point. You're overvaluing your own guy


Literally never hit 100 points, "he's a 100 point player."

What would they think of next
5 juin 2021 à 0 h 41
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Quoting: hairyberry
I know Marner just whiffed in the playoffs but come on man he's a 100 point player, Tkachuk is like a 50 point guy at this point. You're overvaluing your own guy


Tkachuk's built for playoff hockey and will likely be "C" in OTT.
Mitchy, not so much.
5 juin 2021 à 0 h 43
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Quoting: hairyberry
I know Marner just whiffed in the playoffs but come on man he's a 100 point player, Tkachuk is like a 50 point guy at this point. You're overvaluing your own guy


completely agree, ignore these sens fans
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 44
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Quoting: WhereArtTLuongo
Literally never hit 100 points, "he's a 100 point player."

What would they think of next

Scored 92 pts once, cashed in on one season and was overpaid by about $3.5 million, then averaged about 60 the rest of the way. He’s an overpaid Sam Reinhart who doesn’t go to the net. I’d rather have Tkachuk too.
5 juin 2021 à 0 h 45
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Quoting: hairyberry
I know Marner just whiffed in the playoffs but come on man he's a 100 point player, Tkachuk is like a 50 point guy at this point. You're overvaluing your own guy


You're calling Marner a 100 point player when hes had 0 100 point seasons. And in his 5 seasons, only has had 1 season over 70 points.
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 45
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Quoting: WhereArtTLuongo
Literally never hit 100 points, "he's a 100 point player."

What would they think of next


I'm literally a Bruins fan lol so not sure who you think "they" is. His last three seasons were 94 points, 93 point pace, 100 point pace. Is that pedantic enough? The point is he blows Tkachuk out of the water. People are overreacting to Marner's playoffs.
5 juin 2021 à 0 h 45
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Quoting: WhereArtTLuongo
Literally never hit 100 points, "he's a 100 point player."

What would they think of next


math, we didn't think of it, we just use it
5 juin 2021 à 0 h 47
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Quoting: Tjm220
Scored 92 pts once, cashed in on one season and was overpaid by about $3.5 million, then averaged about 60 the rest of the way. He’s an overpaid Sam Reinhart who doesn’t go to the net. I’d rather have Tkachuk too.


Uh averaged 67... In 50 some games. That's a pretty important detail you left out. By that standard, Tkachuk was a 30 point player this year.
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 49
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Quoting: hairyberry
I know Marner just whiffed in the playoffs but come on man he's a 100 point player, Tkachuk is like a 50 point guy at this point. You're overvaluing your own guy


oh i agree. but tkachuk can easily be a 80-90 point guy who brings other elements that marner doesnt. thats not worth paying a 1st rd pick for
5 juin 2021 à 0 h 52
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
You're calling Marner a 100 point player when hes had 0 100 point seasons. And in his 5 seasons, only has had 1 season over 70 points.


2 of his most recent (aka matured as an athelete) seasons have been shorten because of the pandemic. This past season, on an 82 game season he was on pace for 99.89 points, sue us for rounding up. His last full 82 game season, at the age of 22 years old, put up 94 points. gtfo
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 55
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oh i agree. but tkachuk can easily be a 80-90 point guy who brings other elements that marner doesnt. thats not worth paying a 1st rd pick for


This is at least a reasonable take if you believe Tkachuk can become that player. If management really thinks he can, I wouldn't trade him for Marner. On the other hand, that's a big "if".
5 juin 2021 à 0 h 57
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If you think Toronto doesn’t do it, and we keep saying Ottawa wouldn’t trade Tkachuk, why bother posting this?

Who says no, everyone. Keep beating this dead horse
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5 juin 2021 à 0 h 59
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Quoting: hairyberry
Uh averaged 67... In 50 some games. That's a pretty important detail you left out. By that standard, Tkachuk was a 30 point player this year.

Say what you will, I still wouldn’t want him at that price. An $11 million player should be one of the top 10 in the league and he’s not. He’s had every opportunity to prove he’s the type of guy you need to win in the playoffs, he’s not that guy either. Toronto’s problem is they have a team full of regular season players that can get you to the playoffs but they won’t win you anything when you get there. My question: Who is carrying whom? Does Matthews carry Marner, or is Mitch Marner carrying Austen Matthews? Considering that you would never consider trading Austen Matthews, I think we have our answer.
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5 juin 2021 à 1 h 4
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Quoting: hairyberry
This is at least a reasonable take if you believe Tkachuk can become that player. If management really thinks he can, I wouldn't trade him for Marner. On the other hand, that's a big "if".


plus hes a leader. a future captain. marner will never be that.
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5 juin 2021 à 1 h 40
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sens would lose literally half the fanbase if they made that trade
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5 juin 2021 à 1 h 48
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Say what you will, I still wouldn’t want him at that price. An $11 million player should be one of the top 10 in the league and he’s not. He’s had every opportunity to prove he’s the type of guy you need to win in the playoffs, he’s not that guy either. Toronto’s problem is they have a team full of regular season players that can get you to the playoffs but they won’t win you anything when you get there. My question: Who is carrying whom? Does Matthews carry Marner, or is Mitch Marner carrying Austen Matthews? Considering that you would never consider trading Austen Matthews, I think we have our answer.


To be fair points wise he was a top 10 player in the league number 3 actually. As for the playoffs thing I truly think that playing for his hometown team as well as what happened during his contract and people turning on him ****ed him up and he will explode when he goes somewhere else and ditches the history he has with this team
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5 juin 2021 à 1 h 49
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sens would lose literally half the fanbase if they made that trade

O so 2 fans lol jk
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5 juin 2021 à 1 h 59
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Quoting: Tjm220
Scored 92 pts once, cashed in on one season and was overpaid by about $3.5 million, then averaged about 60 the rest of the way. He’s an overpaid Sam Reinhart who doesn’t go to the net. I’d rather have Tkachuk too.


I'll agree that this trade isn't realistic, but this take on Marner is nonsense. 94 points in 82 games, then 67 points in 59 games, then 67 points in 55 games. He hasn't hit 100 yet like someone claimed above but he isn't far off. He's an elite young winger who doesn't know how to play playoff hockey yet. Still has tremendous value. Maybe overpaid by 1.9mil, I think Marner at a 9mil cap hit is real nice. All this being said, I would like to see what the Leafs could get for him via trade.
5 juin 2021 à 2 h 1
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Say what you will, I still wouldn’t want him at that price. An $11 million player should be one of the top 10 in the league and he’s not. He’s had every opportunity to prove he’s the type of guy you need to win in the playoffs, he’s not that guy either. Toronto’s problem is they have a team full of regular season players that can get you to the playoffs but they won’t win you anything when you get there. My question: Who is carrying whom? Does Matthews carry Marner, or is Mitch Marner carrying Austen Matthews? Considering that you would never consider trading Austen Matthews, I think we have our answer.


I'd trade Matthews. Not for nothing, but if it helped the team I would
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5 juin 2021 à 2 h 4
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I'll agree that this trade isn't realistic, but this take on Marner is nonsense. 94 points in 82 games, then 67 points in 59 games, then 67 points in 55 games. He hasn't hit 100 yet like someone claimed above but he isn't far off. He's an elite young winger who doesn't know how to play playoff hockey yet. Still has tremendous value. Maybe overpaid by 1.9mil, I think Marner at a 9mil cap hit is real nice. All this being said, I would like to see what the Leafs could get for him via trade.


picks and prospects, NO TEAM with a competent GM will trade a similarly aged, similarly productive player that is cheaper for him
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5 juin 2021 à 2 h 5
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picks and prospects, NO TEAM with a competent GM will trade a similarly aged, similarly productive player that is cheaper for him


Totally agree.

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