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Marner Trade

Créé par: Blues4TheCup
Date de création initiale: jun 1, 2021
Publié: 1 jun à 12 h 43
Équipe: 2021-22 Blues de St-Louis
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Joshua, Dakota1750 000 $
Sanford, Zachary11 550 000 $
Thomas, Robert22 500 000 $
Kyrou, Jordan22 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bozak, Tyler12 000 000 $
Coleman, Blake44 000 000 $
Transactions
STL
  1. Marner, Mitchell
TOR
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
  2. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2021 1e round pick (STL)
STL
    SEA
    1. Barbashev, Ivan [Droits de RFA]
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    STL
    STL
    STL
    DET
    2022
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    2023
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $80 385 182 $306 349 $2 975 000 $1 114 818 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    STL
    Perron, David
    4 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    STL
    O'Reilly, Ryan
    7 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    STL
    Schenn, Brayden
    6 500 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    STL
    Thomas, Robert
    2 500 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 2
    STL
    Kyrou, Jordan
    2 500 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Coleman, Blake
    4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    STL
    Sundqvist, Oskar
    2 750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    STL
    Kostin, Klim
    863 333 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    STL
    Sanford, Zachary
    1 550 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Bozak, Tyler
    2 000 000 $
    C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Blais, Samuel
    1 500 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    STL
    Clifford, Kyle
    1 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    STL
    MacEachern, Mackenzie
    900 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    STL
    Krug, Torey
    6 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    STL
    Faulk, Justin
    6 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    STL
    Binnington, Jordan
    6 000 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    STL
    Scandella, Marco
    3 275 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    STL
    Parayko, Colton
    5 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Husso, Ville
    750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Perunovich, Scott
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    STL
    Bortuzzo, Robert
    1 375 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Mikkola, Niko
    787 500 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    STL
    Anas, Sam
    725 000 $ (0 $)
    C
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Joshua, Dakota
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    C
    RFA - 1
    STL
    Laferrière, Mathias
    786 667 $ (0 $)
    C
    RFA - 2
    STL
    Santini, Steven
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    DD
    UFA - 2
    STL
    Walman, Jake
    725 000 $ (0 $)
    DG
    RFA - 1
    STL
    Hofer, Joel
    795 000 $ (0 $)
    G
    RFA - 2

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    1 jun à 12 h 46
    #1
    Xavier
    Rejoint: aoû 2020
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    TOR says NO
    1 jun à 12 h 46
    #2
    Rejoint: jan 2017
    Messages: 4,840
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    No...just no. Marner is a terrific playmaker but the Blues should not have a guy with that kind of cap hit on their team. Go for Nylander instead.
    1 jun à 12 h 48
    #3
    Démarrer sujet
    Rejoint: avr 2017
    Messages: 1,373
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    Quoting: Chopper02
    No...just no. Marner is a terrific playmaker but the Blues should not have a guy with that kind of cap hit on their team. Go for Nylander instead.


    TOR would be out of their mind to trade Marner. But I feel like Nylander is off the table cause of his reasonable contract
    1 jun à 12 h 48
    #4
    Démarrer sujet
    Rejoint: avr 2017
    Messages: 1,373
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    Quoting: XQOM
    TOR says NO


    why?
    1 jun à 12 h 49
    #5
    Rejoint: jan 2017
    Messages: 4,840
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    Quoting: Blues4TheCup
    TOR would be out of their mind to trade Marner. But I feel like Nylander is off the table cause of his reasonable contract


    Unfortunately for Toronto, they may not have a choice. Don't know how many teams would trade for Marner considering his cap hit and the fact his contract takes him to UFA.
    1 jun à 12 h 53
    #6
    Xavier
    Rejoint: aoû 2020
    Messages: 93
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    Quoting: Blues4TheCup
    why?


    1. Tarasenko is VERY injury prone 29 year old who hasn't had a 80 point season vs Marner who is 23 years old who has put up (on pace) three 90 point seasons in a row.
    2. Vince Dunn + the 1st are nice assets but aren't the value someone who finished top 5 in scoring.
    1 jun à 12 h 54
    #7
    Xavier
    Rejoint: aoû 2020
    Messages: 93
    Mentions "j'aime": 14
    Quoting: Chopper02
    No...just no. Marner is a terrific playmaker but the Blues should not have a guy with that kind of cap hit on their team. Go for Nylander instead.


    First of all, Toronto never takes that deal, Tarasenko is a 29 year old injury prone player, his value is no where near Marner even with his contract.
    We do not and will not move any of our top 4 players. If we are it won't be for some **** cap dumb like this
    1 jun à 13 h 00
    #8
    Rejoint: jan 2017
    Messages: 4,840
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    Quoting: XQOM
    First of all, Toronto never takes that deal, Tarasenko is a 29 year old injury prone player, his value is no where near Marner even with his contract.
    We do not and will not move any of our top 4 players. If we are it won't be for some **** cap dumb like this


    I wasn't speaking to the value of the trade itself. Regardless of what the value is, I wouldn't trade for Marner period because of his cap hit.
    1 jun à 13 h 08
    #9
    Xavier
    Rejoint: aoû 2020
    Messages: 93
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    Quoting: Chopper02
    I wasn't speaking to the value of the trade itself. Regardless of what the value is, I wouldn't trade for Marner period because of his cap hit.


    Ya fair, the flat cap makes movement of large contracts almost impossible
    1 jun à 13 h 23
    #10
    LetsGoBlues FLAv5
    Rejoint: jun 2016
    Messages: 6,234
    Mentions "j'aime": 3,955
    Quoting: Blues4TheCup
    TOR would be out of their mind to trade Marner. But I feel like Nylander is off the table cause of his reasonable contract


    I agree on both. Wish they'd trade Willy, he's a gem. Getting Marner for VT + Dunn + 18oa (and using Walman in Dunn's place) would be STL taking advantage of TOR's mistakes, first one was when they signed MM to that AAV, second is if they were to trade him at age 24 after a bad playoff series, third would be if they trusted VT to be the player he was in his prime for the rest of his deal.

    There's about a 1% chance of finding a player like Marner at his age outside of drafting him in the top5 and developing him. IMO you put up with the bad contract, just treat is as 8m for MM and 3m as a bad deal for a replacement level player, which many teams end up carrying around anyways (looking at you, Scandella).
    1 jun à 13 h 38
    #11
    Rejoint: jui 2017
    Messages: 118
    Mentions "j'aime": 32
    Quoting: Chopper02
    No...just no. Marner is a terrific playmaker but the Blues should not have a guy with that kind of cap hit on their team. Go for Nylander instead.


    Terrific playmaker with zero goals in the playoffs.
    1 jun à 14 h 00
    #12
    Rejoint: jan 2017
    Messages: 4,840
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    Quoting: AvoidTheClap
    Terrific playmaker with zero goals in the playoffs.


    Only one goal less than Matthews.
     
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