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Créé par: Kylonetic8

Équipe: 2021-22 Capitals de Washington

Date de création initiale: 19 mai 2021

Publié: 22 mai 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I'm not seeing a team that can win a cup anymore as the roster is currently constructed. We need a gigantic shakeup. We need youth, we need speed. We just can't hang with teams in do or die situations anymore. OT/3v3. We look old and slow and gassed constantly in those situations.

Sounds like Kuzy will be moved, and everyone knows it. The Caps leverage is lessened here, but they seem to be done with him and his shenanigans.

I think they hold onto Samsonov, as he's the best goalie on the current roster, and has the most potential.

McMichael gets time with the Caps in 2021.

We have extremely good center depth now with this roster. Dowd, our best center in the playoffs in 2021, suddenly finds himself 5th center on the depth chart. With two new centers that can actually play some damn defense, unlike Kuznetsov. At the cost of some offense certainly, but Ek seems to have found his offensive touch this year. The Caps are gambling that it holds, and Minnesota doesn't have to gamble on this as they're getting Kuznetsov, who can still play offense at a high level.

Edit: Adjusted Ek trade from discussion.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Samsonov, Ilya		2	1 500 000 $
Eriksson Ek, Joel		2	3 500 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Ovechkin, Alex	4	10 000 000 $
Danault, Phillip	6	5 750 000 $
Hamilton, Dougie	7	9 250 000 $
Coleman, Blake	4	4 500 000 $
Grabner, Michael	1	800 000 $

Transactions

WSH

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (ARI)

Détails additionnels:

Partial cap dump to a team that needs D, since Arizona has 3 defense under contract for 2021 currently. Two of the pending free agents are old and probably won't be re-signed. With this trade, they won't have to. Technically they get younger on D for the cost of a couple picks. Taking Kempny costs the Caps pick coming our way.

ARI

WSH

Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

Cap dump, anywhere

ANA

Schultz, Justin

WSH

Bye Oshie :(

SEA

Oshie, T.J.

WSH

Eriksson Ek, Joel [Droits de RFA]

MIN

Kuznetsov, Evgeny
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (ARI)

WSH

Walker, Sean

LAK

Hagelin, Carl
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (WSH)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	73 526 261 $	472 927 $	132 500 $	7 973 739 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Ovechkin, Alex 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ AG UFA - 5	Bäckström, Nicklas 9 200 000 $9 200 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Wilson, Tom 5 166 667 $5 166 667 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 3
Mantha, Anthony 2 850 000 $2 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Danault, Phillip 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ C UFA - 6	Coleman, Blake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 6
Sheary, Conor 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Eriksson Ek, Joel 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ C UFA - 8	McMichael, Connor 863 333 $863 333 $ AG, C RFA - 3
Hathaway, Garnet 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Eller, Lars 2 415 000 $2 415 000 $ C UFA - 2	Sprong, Daniel 725 000 $725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Orlov, Dmitry 1 275 000 $1 275 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Hamilton, Dougie 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ DD UFA - 7	Samsonov, Ilya 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Dillon, Brenden 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Walker, Sean 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Vanecek, Vitek 716 667 $716 667 $ G UFA - 1
Fehérváry, Martin 791 667 $791 667 $ (132 500 $$132K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Jensen, Nick 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Grabner, Michael 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA
Dowd, Nic 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA - 1
van Riemsdyk, Trevor 950 000 $950 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Ovechkin, A.		Wilson, T.		Bäckström, N.
	Hamilton, D.		Mantha, A.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Coleman, B.	Danault, P.
	Orlov, D.

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 12

ModanoisCool

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Modifié 22 mai 2021 à 5 h 19

This isn't happening. You can keep dreaming

Wild aren't trading Joel Eriksson Ek for Kuznetsov.

Like so so laughable. To think wild would trade a 2way stud like Joel Eriksson Ek for a trouble player is laughable and comical

To think wild would even add s even more laughable

Joel Eriksson Ek is untouchable & going nowhere

Minnesota doesn't have to gamble? You mean a player who has / was suspended from international play for steroids?

Player who was caught on tape using crack?

Player who was suspended this year for not following covid protocols ?

Same player Washington wants to trade because he missed 2 months with not following covid protocols, & got sick with covid?

1st time: missed 1 month
2nd time in covid protocols: missed covid protocols including missing playoff game

You aren't living in facing reality. He's not worth Jack squat especially Joel Eriksson Ek

Same player Kuznetsov who went from 72 points to 52 points to 29 this year?

Yeah no thanks. Wild aren't dumb

Joel Eriksson Ek is untouchable and going nowhere

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 14

Kylonetic8

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

You mad?

Since you massively edited your post, I'll do so as well.

Your post is mostly useless. If that trade isn't fair, in your opinion, please give a trade that is more fair, in your opinion. To say he's untouchable is probably not true. He's youngish, but hasn't played this well until this year. For Kuznetsov's issues, he's still a top offensive talent that had .71 PPG this year.

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 20

ModanoisCool

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

Dude Kuznetsov had 29 points

Get real dude. Wild don't want him

He's untouchable. Not only wild fans have said this. He's untouchable a together

Wild don't need or want a player with a joke of history that Washington is trying to shipped out. Yeah dude, a wild team is going to trade their young c, so funny. He's not even available for eichel

https://theathletic.com/2581508/2021/05/11/wild-notebook-jack-eichel-trade-considerations-plus-the-latest-on-zach-parise-and-matt-boldy/?amp#click=https://t.co/25p64DALdK

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 22

Kylonetic8

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

Dude Kuznetsov had 29 points

Get real dude. Wild don't want him

He's untouchable. Not only wild fans have said this. He's untouchable a together
https://theathletic.com/2581508/2021/05/11/wild-notebook-jack-eichel-trade-considerations-plus-the-latest-on-zach-parise-and-matt-boldy/?amp#click=https://t.co/25p64DALdK

That's one less point than Ek, with many less games. What's your point?

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 24

Kylonetic8

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If he's not available for Eichel, maybe the Wild are dumb.

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 26

ModanoisCool

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

That's one less point that Ek, with many less games. What's your point?

What is my point? Dude like the fact you don't understand this is completely comical. Wild aren't trading Joel Eriksson Ek, their 2 way shutdown c, & player contributions on a playoff team for a trouble player. Yeah bill Guerin, wild gm doesn't want trouble players on wild. Same reason he didn't trade for Sean Monahan

Points isn't everything. U know same Kuznetsov who had two separate stints in covid protocols due to his own doings including missing Washington 1st playoff team? Yeah dude, dream on.

Wild aren't going to take on worst player with character issues .

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 27

ModanoisCool

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

If he's not available for Eichel, maybe the Wild are dumb.

According to you a computer GM? I am.not only wild fans who have said no to Kuznetsov. In fact wild gm was brought in to clean up wild lockeroom.

If you actually think anyone is going to trade much for Kuznetsov, you are joking yourself

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 28

Kylonetic8

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Dude you're sounding unhinged and drunk. Maybe take a step back, relax, collect your thoughts and say something constructive on this thread, or kindly depart.

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 38

ModanoisCool

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

Dude you're sounding unhinged and drunk. Maybe take a step back, relax, collect your thoughts and say something constructive on this thread, or kindly depart.

Depart? You are the one trying to get Joel Eriksson Ek from wild by giving them a trash player & person whose throwing their career away

Wild simply don't need or want Kuznetsov. Wild aren't interested in adding a trouble player to their lockeroom. Certainly aren't going to trade their 2 way shutdown c whose broken out, & is contributing on a playoff team

Wild aren't trading their young c in Joel Eriksson Ek whose better in every way & shape & who goes against 1c on other teams, c& shut them down

People that throw their life away are people o dislike , & hate. Certainly wild gm bill Guerin was brought in to get rid of trouble makers on wild,. Wild aren't going to be interested in Kuznetsov. Thus has been discussed on here a million times

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 40

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From a Habs perspective, I was wandering in the description when you said *but Ek seems to have found...* Like no way you think Kuznetsov can land Joel Eriksson Ek one for one. And then I saw the trade, Jesus, Kuznetsov isn’t worth that lol Kuznetsov is almost a capdump from here, 7.8M for a guy with attitude problems, can’t see a GM wanted him in a flat cap era

That’s my opinion, I could be wrong

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 42

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

I think you're overvaluing Ek and undervaluing Kuznetsov. He was much better overall this year in his play, not as flashy and wowing as he has been in the past, but better 2 way play and his CF% was pretty good. He's not the trash you're making him out to be.

The COVID thing is a concern, but some other team might value what he brings offensively and willing to give him a chance in a new city.

Now if Ek is really so untouchable that they wouldn't even trade him for Eichel, then I'd have to question the FO of the Wild and their wisdom. Ek is an inferior talent to Eichel, and the same age. You definitely do that trade immediately.

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 44

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Quoting: GMs

He's had one good season, didn't realize folks were valuing him as the next Connor McJesus. Happily remove the pick, even add a pick.

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 50

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ModanoisCool

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

Plan is to add to wild c core. Not take away

Eichel is a big time risk who has a neck surgery , & needs surgery

How has Kuznetsov been the better player? He's not even top 5, top 10 in selke candidate like Joel Eriksson Ek

Joel Eriksson Ek had 10 more goals then Kuznetsov . Joel Eriksson Ek scored 12 goals in 3 period

Joel Eriksson Ek is a complete 2 way shutdown c going against other teams players

Kuznetsov has had significant decreases in points, & Goals 2 years in a row. Going from 72 points to 52, to 29 isn't being a better player

Kuznetsov isn't even close to Joel Eriksson Ek in terms of defense

https://theathletic.com/2428496/2021/03/05/how-wilds-joel-eriksson-ek-has-emerged-as-one-of-the-nhls-top-two-way-forwards/

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 50

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

He's had one good season, didn't realize folks were valuing him as the next Connor McJesus. Happily remove the pick, even add a pick.

Wild wants Ek not Kuzy ...

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22 mai 2021 à 5 h 51

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

He's had one good season, didn't realize folks were valuing him as the next Connor McJesus. Happily remove the pick, even add a pick.

Nk disrespectf, but he can't be had. Wild aren't trading him

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 52

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Ek has not had any selke votes. Ironically Kuzy has.

22 mai 2021 à 5 h 57

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

Nk disrespectf, but he can't be had. Wild aren't trading him

You've expressed your opinion. I don't agree he's untouchable. I'd ask you to propose a trade you'd accept for him, but since he's untouchable to *you* it seems moot.

22 mai 2021 à 6 h 5

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

Ek has not had any selke votes. Ironically Kuzy has.

I mean dude, it general manager made Joel Eriksson Ek untouchable since last summer even before his breakout

There's no scenario he's getting traded

Him, & kaprizov along with players like Jonas Brodin with no movement, jared spurgeon with no movement are untouchable

Plan is to add to wild c. Not take away one of the best 2 way c in the game Right now. Even a Montreal fan just told you this

Also a player's value is based on the now, not the padt

https://theathletic.com/2428496/2021/03/05/how-wilds-joel-eriksson-ek-has-emerged-as-one-of-the-nhls-top-two-way-forwards/

22 mai 2021 à 6 h 7

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

You can stop copy and pasting stuff now. Good day.

22 mai 2021 à 6 h 10

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ModanoisCool

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Quoting: Kylonetic8

You've expressed your opinion. I don't agree he's untouchable. I'd ask you to propose a trade you'd accept for him, but since he's untouchable to *you* it seems moot.

You said you don't agree he's untouchable. You are a Washington fan who doesn't watch wild.

A Montreal fan has respectfully told you wild want Joel Eriksson Ek, not Kuznetsov

I guess it's really shouldn't be that hard. Wild gm see him as untouchable. So do wild fans

22 mai 2021 à 9 h 3

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

Dang mate, have a coffee or something

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22 mai 2021 à 9 h 20

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One thing I’ve learned is to never trade with the Wild. AGMs think every player is untouchable and a God-send and every deal for a player on their team is lunacy

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22 mai 2021 à 9 h 58

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Quoting: ModanoisCool

You seem really fixated on point totals. So let’s look at Ek’s point production. 30 points this year, 29 last year, 14 the year before, and 15 before then. You have no reason to bring up point totals lmao

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22 mai 2021 à 11 h 5

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If the Wild trade for Kuzy, it means we want to go all-in and contend. That would mean Eriksson Ek wouldn't be available. We already have terrible center depth, so if we trade for Kuzy, it's for picks/prospects or wingers/D-men

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22 mai 2021 à 11 h 7

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Quoting: GM_MZ_WSH

One thing I’ve learned is to never trade with the Wild. AGMs think every player is untouchable and a God-send and every deal for a player on their team is lunacy

Most of the Wild fans here are sensible and rational. Then there are the few that will be claimed from the Earth by natural selection in a few years.

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