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Créé par: nobleknight77
Date de création initiale: mai 18, 2021
Publié: 18 mai à 14 h 33
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
-Coleman rotates between second and third line depending on opponent and how robertson is doing
-Liljegren is the seventh defenseman, just is in minors for salary cap purposes
-Holl will be protected, so kokkonen and petan are there so that they don't take jost
-bellemare and Coleman are the third PK forward pairing
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Woll, Joseph2800 000 $
Jost, Tyson22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Hyman, Zach55 000 000 $
Bogosian, Zach11 000 000 $
Spezza, Jason1750 000 $
Noesen, Stefan1750 000 $
Brossoit, Laurent21 500 000 $
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard1800 000 $
Coleman, Blake34 000 000 $
Carrick, Connor1800 000 $
Transactions
TOR
    SEA
    1. Kokkonen, Mikko [Liste de réserve]
    2. Kerfoot, Alexander
    3. Petan, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
    Détails additionnels:
    Kokkonen and petan are so they take kerfoot over holl
    TOR
    1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
    COL
    1. Hirvonen, Roni [Liste de réserve]
    Détails additionnels:
    I feel like this is a bit of an underpay so tell me if I can improve it
    TOR
    1. 2022 2e round pick (NYR)
    2. 2021 5e round pick (NYR)
    NYR
    1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
    TOR
    1. 2022 5e round pick (EDM)
    2. 2021 7e round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Engvall, Pierre
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    TOR
    TOR
    NYR
    TOR
    EDM
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    NYR
    EDM
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2181 500 000 $80 891 450 $0 $0 $608 550 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    TOR
    Hyman, Zach
    5 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Robertson, Nicholas
    796 667 $
    AG
    RFA - 3
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    11 000 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    Coleman, Blake
    4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Jost, Tyson
    2 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    1 645 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
    800 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Brooks, Adam
    725 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    5 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    2 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Brossoit, Laurent
    1 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    894 167 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Bogosian, Zach
    1 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Carrick, Connor
    800 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $ (0 $)
    DD
    RFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Tavares, J.
    Nylander, W.
    Matthews, A.
    Sandin, R.
    Marner, M.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Spezza, J.
    Hyman, Z.
    Robertson, N.
    Rielly, M.
    Coleman, B.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Jost, T.
    Mikheyev, I.
    Muzzin, J.
    Holl, J.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Tavares, J.
    Marner, M.
    Bogosian, Z.
    Brodie, T.

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    18 mai à 14 h 35
    #1
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    Why not just protect Holl instead of having to trade something to protect him?
    18 mai à 14 h 35
    #2
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    Avs decline, and its more than an underpay,
    You have to give up value the avs want to part with Jost

    and if Bellemare is willing to sign a 1 year 800k deal, why would he leave the avs, a place that he loves playing
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    18 mai à 14 h 39
    #3
    Stay mad
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    Rangers have no need
    18 mai à 14 h 44
    #4
    2-1-1
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    1. If Kerfoot is exposed, Holl would be protected. And vice versa.

    2. definitely an underpay. I’m optimistic for Hirvonen, I like him but Jost in already an NHLer so you’ll need a bit more there. I’d assume something like a 3rd + 5th. Maybe.

    3. The Rangers aren’t the right team for Dermott. And I’m not sure he has that kind of value. There’s definitely a market for him, but not there, not for that I don’t think.

    4. Let Bogo walk or he has to be okay with being a depth guy. The only way Liljegren will get better at this point is by playing actual NHL minutes.
    18 mai à 14 h 44
    #5
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Why not just protect Holl instead of having to trade something to protect him?


    I originally wrote this, but I realized after that this is wrong. It's so they take on kerfoots cap hit/ don't take dermott
    18 mai à 14 h 57
    #6
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    Quoting: TrueCanuck
    Why not just protect Holl instead of having to trade something to protect him?


    The reason a lot of people are using is that the Leafs dont have any qualified defensmen to expose after Holl.. so by the rules they have to expose one of Rielly/Brodie/Muzzin/Holl

    My argument is that all it takes is signing someone like Dermott to an extension prior to the draft to allow for protecting Holl..

    I havent heard anything either, but the rules are technically that one defensman who is signed through next year and has either played 40 games this year or 70 games over the last two years in the NHL must be exposed. I assume that as the last two years have been shortened that these requirements will be changed to "27 games this year or 54 games over the last two years".

    This would mean that the leafs could pull some funny buisness like signing Ron Hainsey to a 1-year league min contract just to expose him, then they could burry his contract in the AHL and scratch him every game.. This would need the player to be on-board, but I dont think it would take to much convincing to have him sign a piece of paper for $800,000 to do nothing for the year... They could even have him act as a sort of development coach while paying him his player salary..
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    18 mai à 15 h 04
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    Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
    1. If Kerfoot is exposed, Holl would be protected. And vice versa.

    2. definitely an underpay. I’m optimistic for Hirvonen, I like him but Jost in already an NHLer so you’ll need a bit more there. I’d assume something like a 3rd + 5th. Maybe.

    3. The Rangers aren’t the right team for Dermott. And I’m not sure he has that kind of value. There’s definitely a market for him, but not there, not for that I don’t think.

    4. Let Bogo walk or he has to be okay with being a depth guy. The only way Liljegren will get better at this point is by playing actual NHL minutes.


    I made a separate comment as to why Holl cant be protected unless another eligible player is signed and exposed instead of him.. I do agree though that Holl should and likely will be protected.

    I think Dermott still has a place on this team as a 6/7 defensman, he is still only 24 and many defensmen dont fully develop until their mid/late 20s.. The only issue will be if he is willing to sign for under $1M again..

    I disagree regarding Bogo and Liljegren.. I think Liljegren can definately improve from another full year as a top pairing guy in the AHL while playing the odd stint with the big club next year. Similar to the Dermott comment, lots of defensmen take a bit longer to develop. Playing big minutes in the AHL can often be better than bottom pairing NHL minutes.. Plus, as a general rule for contending teams, you should never have a player on your roster "to develop".. Liljegren (and Sandin for that matter) will have to make the team on merit alone.

    With regards to Bogo, I think he definately has bought in to being a depth guy and helping teach the young guys how to be good pro's. At the end of the day though, he has to be better than Sandin/Dermott/Liljegren since we want to put together the best roster possible.
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    18 mai à 15 h 15
    #8
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    Quoting: sammy_daws1997
    The reason a lot of people are using is that the Leafs dont have any qualified defensmen to expose after Holl.. so by the rules they have to expose one of Rielly/Brodie/Muzzin/Holl

    My argument is that all it takes is signing someone like Dermott to an extension prior to the draft to allow for protecting Holl.

    I havent heard anything either, but the rules are technically that one defenseman who is signed through next year and has either played 40 games this year or 70 games over the last two years in the NHL must be exposed. I assume that as the last two years have been shortened that these requirements will be changed to "27 games this year or 54 games over the last two years".


    Yes, the requirements have been changed to 27/54. And you're right that Toronto can simply sign Dermott to an extension or Bogosian to a new contract and expose him in order to meet the "one qualified defenseman" exposure rule. I fully expect Toronto to do that and protect The Big Four forwards to go 8-1. We'll see if I'm right.
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    18 mai à 15 h 22
    #9
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    Quoting: nobleknight77
    I originally wrote this, but I realized after that this is wrong. It's so they take on kerfoots cap hit/ don't take dermott


    Kerfoot has a very reasonable cap hit and you are trading Dermott anyway...

    You are adding Jost (who is younger, but not as good as Kerfoot imo) for only $1.5M less but then signing Coleman for $4M for a 3rd line spot that gets 11 minutes a night...
    18 mai à 16 h 26
    #10
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    Why does COL trade Jost? It isn’t because they are looking for prospects. He is their 3C for at least the next contract literally would have to over pay because you are asking the Avs to create a hole in their line up. Easy no. Add a 3rd and it’s still an easy no. Add a 2nd and it’s an easy no. The Avs are about winning now.
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    18 mai à 16 h 57
    #11
    Roster Architect
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    Quoting: sammy_daws1997
    The reason a lot of people are using is that the Leafs dont have any qualified defensmen to expose after Holl.. so by the rules they have to expose one of Rielly/Brodie/Muzzin/Holl

    My argument is that all it takes is signing someone like Dermott to an extension prior to the draft to allow for protecting Holl..

    I havent heard anything either, but the rules are technically that one defensman who is signed through next year and has either played 40 games this year or 70 games over the last two years in the NHL must be exposed. I assume that as the last two years have been shortened that these requirements will be changed to "27 games this year or 54 games over the last two years".

    This would mean that the leafs could pull some funny buisness like signing Ron Hainsey to a 1-year league min contract just to expose him, then they could burry his contract in the AHL and scratch him every game.. This would need the player to be on-board, but I dont think it would take to much convincing to have him sign a piece of paper for $800,000 to do nothing for the year... They could even have him act as a sort of development coach while paying him his player salary..


    Exactly. They'll just sign Dermott to expose him. They kept Holl when Babcock wouldn't play him and now that he's playing in their top 4 their not gonna potentially lose him for free.
     
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