@richard88 what do you think it would take for Graves considering he's likely SEA bound?

its not terrible a early 2nd round pick and a a- close to a prospect did resarch him that much but i think sakic would accept but thats my opion

also would mind borgstrum in that trade

Not sure the Avs need a Sammy G Mk.II (scouting reports seem to illustrate him as similar if he tops out that high), the D is already pretty small as it stands and whilst moving Graves for a decent return (and on face value this is a decent offer) might be attractive I still say the Avs leave him exposed to Seattle.

I think Sakic will simply leave Graves exposed and let Seattle take one of him or Donskoi without overthinking it.

Hypothetically though a 2nd + 3rd/prospect deal is probably about right. The Chicago 2021 2nd might be more appealing than the VGK 2nd however.