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16 juin 2021 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
LA seems set up to have an interesting offseason. They could be making a huge mistake in making a big win-now trade.

Buffalo seems like they’re ready to cut losses with the players who want out and try to rebuild once more. It sucks, but it’s the best thing they can do given their situation. I’m guessing that top-10 pick would be either from LA or Anaheim, because both teams seem poised to do something stupid (Eichel/Jones & Dubois rumours). Although I wouldn’t put it past Vancouver, Columbus, or San Jose to make a bad win-now move.

Not re-signing Hyman would be stupid on Toronto’s part. It’s not like they don’t have the cap space for him either. I love it.


Not sure why LA is always in the rumors for big name players. They have one of the best futures in the league and don't need to speed it up.

I think the Sabres end up with 3 top 10 picks this year. Power, Clarke, Johnson. They got to figure something out in Buffalo

Hyman to Edmonton?
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16 juin 2021 à 15 h 40
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Leafs should sign Coleman to replace Hyman


Yeah that's a good idea if though many teams ill likely be chasing after Coleman. He is really just a downgrade for a cheaper winger to replace Hyman. I do like the fit of him on the leafs though.
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16 juin 2021 à 15 h 42
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
LA seems set up to have an interesting offseason. They could be making a huge mistake in making a big win-now trade.

Buffalo seems like they’re ready to cut losses with the players who want out and try to rebuild once more. It sucks, but it’s the best thing they can do given their situation. I’m guessing that top-10 pick would be either from LA or Anaheim, because both teams seem poised to do something stupid (Eichel/Jones & Dubois rumours). Although I wouldn’t put it past Vancouver, Columbus, or San Jose to make a bad win-now move.

Not re-signing Hyman would be stupid on Toronto’s part. It’s not like they don’t have the cap space for him either. I love it.


here is the thing about Hyman. Many guys who have played just like him were good for 2 years of their new deals than fell apart.

remember when these guys were good, now there contracts are bad anchors to their teams

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Sure there are better examples but the guys above all played a similar game to Hyman and all went through the same thing.
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16 juin 2021 à 15 h 43
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Quoting: Dzinger18
Yeah that's a good idea if though many teams ill likely be chasing after Coleman. He is really just a downgrade for a cheaper winger to replace Hyman. I do like the fit of him on the leafs though.


Coleman would fit on every team. Hopefully he comes back to NJ
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16 juin 2021 à 15 h 45
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Quoting: Devil1122
Leafs should sign Coleman to replace Hyman


more

picture this

Out
Hyman
Anderson
Rielly

In
Coleman
Goodrow
Bunting
Bonino
Raanta
Top 4 LD

Robertson-Matthews-Marner
Bunting-Tavares-Nylander
Goodrow-Bonino-Coleman
Mikheyev-Semyonov-Spezza
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16 juin 2021 à 16 h 35
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Quoting: aadoyle
more

picture this

Out
Hyman
Anderson

In
Coleman
Goodrow
Bunting
Bonino
Raanta

Robertson-Matthews-Marner
Bunting-Tavares-Nylander
Goodrow-Bonino-Coleman
Mikheyev-Semyonov-Spezza


Trade Rielly while his value is high
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16 juin 2021 à 16 h 44
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Quoting: Devil1122
Trade Rielly while his value is high


aadoyle may be only talking about the offense, but yeah that's a thing I would definitely do.Just ship him off to the highest bidder.
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16 juin 2021 à 17 h 36
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Quoting: Dzinger18
aadoyle may be only talking about the offense, but yeah that's a thing I would definitely do.Just ship him off to the highest bidder.


honestly I see the same thing happening to Rielly as what happened with Kapenan

despite having only a year left someones gonna overpay

Heck Dubas could work out another contract get rielly to sign it then flip him before the season starts doubling the value

the question is wheres he going and whats coming back

will it be a 3-way trade

a 1 for 1

a picks and prospects return

so many possibilities
16 juin 2021 à 17 h 50
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
2nd round predictions:
NYI in 7
TBL in 6
WPG in 5
VGK in 7


(This quoted post isn't an actual post I made, just the predictions I made, which were each made in separate posts)

I didn't pick any right with the right number of games, but i got 3 of 4 winners right.
16 juin 2021 à 19 h 16
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4-1 Vegas
16 juin 2021 à 19 h 45
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Prediction for today:
3-2 Vegas (OT)
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16 juin 2021 à 20 h 2
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Quoting: Devil1122
Recent trade/free agency rumors:

Trade talks are getting serious for Eichel. Kings, Wild, Ducks, Jackets, Flyers, Rangers make sense - Pierre LeBrun

Unlikely Hyman is back with the Leafs next season - Chris Johnston

Dougie Hamilton to the Devils makes sense - Elliotte Friedman

Taylor Hall and Bruins talking about an extension - Elliotte Friedman

Ducks could do something big this offseason - Elliotte Friedman

Sabres preparing for the possibility they will have two picks in the top 10 - Lance Lysowski

Flyers, Kings are interested in Seth Jones - Elliotte Friedman

Thoughts???


As I alone on this, or does anyone else think Jones to LA is a horrible idea? Maybe I'm missing something, but he A) Is a rental unlikely to resign, and B) Doesn't fill a positional need.

Is there some reason he'd resign or something that I'm missing? Or are the kings just really stupid?
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16 juin 2021 à 20 h 13
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Quoting: Saskleaf
As I alone on this, or does anyone else think Jones to LA is a horrible idea? Maybe I'm missing something, but he A) Is a rental unlikely to resign, and B) Doesn't fill a positional need.

Is there some reason he'd resign or something that I'm missing? Or are the kings just really stupid?


LA and ANA need to go all in on Eichel - neither should touch Jones, I agree.

I do think Jones is still great (not everyone thinks he is), but the chance he's worth the likely HAUL CBJ is gonna ask for is slim. They're gonna ask high rightfully so, but if the price is like a good first, a elite prospect, a roster player - thats getting very damn expensive for a team who does not need d.
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16 juin 2021 à 20 h 13
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As I alone on this, or does anyone else think Jones to LA is a horrible idea? Maybe I'm missing something, but he A) Is a rental unlikely to resign, and B) Doesn't fill a positional need.

Is there some reason he'd resign or something that I'm missing? Or are the kings just really stupid?


I also think it's a dumb idea. They are always after big name players that they don't need (Eichel, Jones, etc)
16 juin 2021 à 20 h 17
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I also think it's a dumb idea. They are always after big name players that they don't need (Eichel, Jones, etc)


I think LA should be in on Eichel.

A future of

Eichel
Byfield

plus giving Kaliyev a true one C, and Turcotte freedom to play wing if its better for the team is huge. Makes them much deeper with Iafallo and company.
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16 juin 2021 à 20 h 23
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LA and ANA need to go all in on Eichel - neither should touch Jones, I agree.

I do think Jones is still great (not everyone thinks he is), but the chance he's worth the likely HAUL CBJ is gonna ask for is slim. They're gonna ask high rightfully so, but if the price is like a good first, a elite prospect, a roster player - thats getting very damn expensive for a team who does not need d.


Quoting: Devil1122
I also think it's a dumb idea. They are always after big name players that they don't need (Eichel, Jones, etc)


I think they should get Eichel but Jones is a rental and won't likely resign.
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16 juin 2021 à 20 h 34
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I think LA should be in on Eichel.

A future of

Eichel
Byfield

plus giving Kaliyev a true one C, and Turcotte freedom to play wing if its better for the team is huge. Makes them much deeper with Iafallo and company.


Quoting: Saskleaf
I think they should get Eichel but Jones is a rental and won't likely resign.


I think having a 1 2 punch of Byfield and Turcotte would be great. Sure Eichel would definitely improve that, but they have other needs like wingers and LHD
16 juin 2021 à 20 h 37
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I think having a 1 2 punch of Byfield and Turcotte would be great. Sure Eichel would definitely improve that, but they have other needs like wingers and LHD


Getting Eichel creates some great flexibility

They could flex Turcotte to wing which could give him some easier ice

Iafallo - Eichel - Kaliyev
Kopitar/ Vilardi - Vilardi/ Kopitar - Kempe
Brown - Byfield - Turcotte

You still have Lizotte, Anderson Dolan, and a few others lying around.

Plus you have Kupari and a couple others still cooking.

***as flamingc pointed out, 1 of these prospects are gonna have to go the other way***
16 juin 2021 à 20 h 39
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Quoting: yikes
Getting Eichel creates some great flexibility

They could flex Turcotte to wing which could give him some easier ice

Iafallo - Eichel - Kaliyev
Kopitar/ Vilardi - Vilardi/ Kopitar - Kempe
Brown - Byfield - Turcotte


But one of Turcotte or Byfield probably goes the other way in an Eichel trade
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16 juin 2021 à 20 h 41
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But one of Turcotte or Byfield probably goes the other way in an Eichel trade


Cant be byfield imo so send Turcotte away, Buffalo would ask Kaliyev tho (good point forgot to think who’s going back)

Turcotte/ Kaliyev
2021 1st
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16 juin 2021 à 20 h 45
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Cant be byfield imo so send Turcotte away, Buffalo would ask Kaliyev tho (good point forgot to think who’s going back)

Turcotte/ Kaliyev
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Minor piece like Kupari
16 juin 2021 à 20 h 48
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I think LA should be in on Eichel.

A future of

Eichel
Byfield

plus giving Kaliyev a true one C, and Turcotte freedom to play wing if its better for the team is huge. Makes them much deeper with Iafallo and company.


But the problem is, will LA be able to have Eichel without giving up Byfield?
16 juin 2021 à 20 h 48
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Getting Eichel creates some great flexibility

They could flex Turcotte to wing which could give him some easier ice

Iafallo - Eichel - Kaliyev
Kopitar/ Vilardi - Vilardi/ Kopitar - Kempe
Brown - Byfield - Turcotte

You still have Lizotte, Anderson Dolan, and a few others lying around.

Plus you have Kupari and a couple others still cooking.

***as flamingc pointed out, 1 of these prospects are gonna have to go the other way***


This team looks good but im concerned about those wingers and LHD.

Im not too familiar with the Kings but those wingers don't look too good. Is Iafallo a first line winger?
16 juin 2021 à 20 h 54
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But the problem is, will LA be able to have Eichel without giving up Byfield?


I think so.

Byfield, Laf, Zegras are all considered untouchable for Eichel
16 juin 2021 à 21 h 2
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Quoting: Devil1122
I think having a 1 2 punch of Byfield and Turcotte would be great. Sure Eichel would definitely improve that, but they have other needs like wingers and LHD


You can put one of the of Kopitar, Byfield/Turcotte (whichever isn't included in the Eichel deal) or Eichel on the left wing.

Maybe sign a decent left d (Martinez comes back?)

And boom, you have a team set up for the short and long term.
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