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Reinhart amp Rasmussen coming home

Créé par: Canuckel_head
Date de création initiale: mai 13, 2021
Publié: 13 mai à 21 h 11
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
3 way trade. Lower mainland boys!

Vancouver = Sam Reinhart (BUF), Michael Rasmussen (DET),
Detroit = Eriksson (VAN), 2nd 2021 (VAN), 3rd 2021 (VAN), 3rd 2021 (CDN)
Buffalo = 2nd 2022 (VAN), Brisebois (VAN - RFA rights), Lind (VAN), 4th 2021 (DET)
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Podkolzin, Vasily3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bailey, Justin2750 000 $
Hughes, Quinn35 500 000 $
Pettersson, Elias47 250 000 $
Michaelis, Marc2750 000 $
Juolevi, Olli2900 000 $
Rasmussen, Michael2975 000 $
Reinhart, Sam56 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Graovac, Tyler2800 000 $
Chatfield, Jalen2750 000 $
Rafferty, Brogan2750 000 $
Barrie, Tyson45 500 000 $
Bernier, Jonathan22 400 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
BUF
  1. Lind, Kole [Droits de RFA]
  2. Brisebois, Guillaume [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2021 2e round pick (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
2021 4th round pick (from DETROIT)
VAN
  1. Rasmussen, Michael [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. 2023 3e round pick (VAN)
  3. 2022 2e round pick (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
2021 3rd round pick (CDN)
VAN
    SEA
    1. Holtby, Braden
    2. Roussel, Antoine
    3. 2023 2e round pick (VAN)
    4. 2021 6e round pick (WPG)
    Frais appliqués
    • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    CHI
    VAN
    VAN
    2022
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    2023
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2681 500 000 $82 108 992 $648 780 $1 900 000 $-608 992 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    VAN
    Höglander, Nils
    891 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    VAN
    Pettersson, Elias
    7 250 000 $
    C
    RFA
    VAN
    Boeser, Brock
    5 875 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Pearson, Tanner
    3 250 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Horvat, Bo
    5 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Reinhart, Sam
    6 750 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA
    Rasmussen, Michael
    975 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Miller, J.T.
    5 250 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Podkolzin, Vasily
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Motte, Tyler
    1 225 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Graovac, Tyler
    800 000 $
    C
    UFA
    VAN
    MacEwen, Zack
    825 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    VAN
    Hughes, Quinn
    5 500 000 $
    DG
    RFA
    Barrie, Tyson
    5 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    VAN
    Demko, Thatcher
    5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 5
    VAN
    Rathbone, Jack
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Schmidt, Nate
    5 950 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Bernier, Jonathan
    2 400 000 $
    G
    UFA
    VAN
    Juolevi, Olli
    900 000 $
    DG
    RFA
    VAN
    Myers, Tyler
    6 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Bowey, Madison
    725 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    VAN
    Highmore, Matthew
    725 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Ferland, Micheal
    3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Beagle, Jay
    3 000 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Virtanen, Jake
    2 550 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Gadjovich, Jonah
    783 333 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Michaelis, Marc
    750 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA
    VAN
    Bailey, Justin
    750 000 $
    AD
    UFA

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    13 mai à 21 h 14
    #1
    Buffbry
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    Thumbs down on the wings trade my Friend. It wouldn't even be enough to dump loui alone, let alone getting ras ontop
    EsoYeezus69 a aimé ceci.
    13 mai à 21 h 15
    #2
    Steve
    Rejoint: jui 2017
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    Hard pass from Det; not even close in value
    buffbry et EsoYeezus69 a aimé ceci.
    13 mai à 21 h 20
    #3
    Démarrer sujet
    Rejoint: avr 2017
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    Quoting: buffbry
    Thumbs down on the wings trade my Friend. It wouldn't even be enough to dump loui alone, let alone getting ras ontop


    Quoting: Stevierebz
    Hard pass from Det; not even close in value


    So what does this trade look like then? Eriksson only has one year left.
    13 mai à 21 h 21
    #4
    Rejoint: jun 2019
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    How do Canucks offers for Reinhart keep going down?

    Also how do you trade a 3rd round pick in Canada currency?
    RedWing9119 et aedoran a aimé ceci.
    13 mai à 21 h 21
    #5
    Buffbry
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    Wi
    13 mai à 21 h 22
    #6
    Buffbry
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    Quoting: Canuckel_head
    So what does this trade look like then? Eriksson only has one year left.


    Quoting: buffbry
    Without ras this year's 2nd, next year's 3rd and a mid prospect. Canucks in real cap trouble. Canucks should just buy out loui of they don't want to pay price to dump him
    13 mai à 21 h 22
    #7
    PlusMinus is stupid
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    You're either trolling us Detroit fans HARD, or you are so out of touch with other rosters that you don't know any other player aside from Vancouver's.
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    13 mai à 21 h 24
    #8
    Canucks
    Rejoint: mai 2021
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    Buffalo trade probably not fair value. Also Tyson Barrie does not make sense. Every thing he offers Hughes does as well
    13 mai à 21 h 26
    #9
    Malkinwants2beTheMan
    Rejoint: mai 2018
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    Red Wings trade is a joke.
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    13 mai à 21 h 33
    #10
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    What is CDN?
    13 mai à 21 h 42
    #11
    Rejoint: jun 2019
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    What is CDN?


    Canadian currency, like USD
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    13 mai à 21 h 50
    #12
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Canadian currency, like USD


    Haha
    What is that in Euro-picks?
    Ledge_And_Dairy a aimé ceci.
    13 mai à 22 h 22
    #13
    Rejoint: jan 2019
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    Reinhart has more value than Boeser. So if you wouldn't trade Boeser for a package don't propose it for Reinhart.
    13 mai à 22 h 38
    #14
    arky
    Rejoint: aoû 2016
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    Problem is Yzerman took Staal, for a 2nd, at less cap hit because they needed a LHD with experience. Ericksson has a bigger cap hit and brings nothing to the team. So a 2nd and 3rd gets you a cap dump of 6 million hit asking for Rasmussen on top os really a bad look. Vacouver has cap issues and nobody is just going to take on that cap hit for nothing.
    14 mai à 6 h 55
    #15
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    How do Canucks offers for Reinhart keep going down?

    Also how do you trade a 3rd round pick in Canada currency?


    That's just awesome!!
    14 mai à 7 h 18
    #16
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    You're either trolling us Detroit fans HARD, or you are so out of touch with other rosters that you don't know any other player aside from Vancouver's.


    You have brought up an excellent point. A lot of users now only care about their own team and don't take the time to look at the other teams needs or the other teams roster. This is way I take the time to welcome new users when I come across one and tell them not to take anything personal. Recently I've try to explain that all new users overvalue their favorite team and it takes some time to get the value right and not to pay much attention to the criticism on their first post. The people willing to take the time to learn or even just look at the other teams roster see the criticism on their 1st post and say F*** this and never even bother with a 2nd post.
    14 mai à 7 h 30
    #17
    PlusMinus is stupid
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    Quoting: aedoran
    You have brought up an excellent point. A lot of users now only care about their own team and don't take the time to look at the other teams needs or the other teams roster. This is way I take the time to welcome new users when I come across one and tell them not to take anything personal. Recently I've try to explain that all new users overvalue their favorite team and it takes some time to get the value right and not to pay much attention to the criticism on their first post. The people willing to take the time to learn or even just look at the other teams roster see the criticism on their 1st post and say F*** this and never even bother with a 2nd post.

    I agree with the approach with new posters. This one has been here for a bit, which makes this post even more deserving of ridicule.
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    14 mai à 7 h 38
    #18
    Malkinwants2beTheMan
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    Quoting: aedoran
    You have brought up an excellent point. A lot of users now only care about their own team and don't take the time to look at the other teams needs or the other teams roster. This is way I take the time to welcome new users when I come across one and tell them not to take anything personal. Recently I've try to explain that all new users overvalue their favorite team and it takes some time to get the value right and not to pay much attention to the criticism on their first post. The people willing to take the time to learn or even just look at the other teams roster see the criticism on their 1st post and say F*** this and never even bother with a 2nd post.


    Exactly. When proposing trades it's important to not only look at the other team's rosters, but listen to what their fans are saying. They know their teams just like we know our team. Too many posters get their backs up too soon and don't value what the other person is saying. All fanbases are going to have idiots who only want to disagree for the sake of disagreeing. The whole "look at me I need attention" thing. But I listen to what most fans are saying so I can create a better roster next time. Plus it's a great way to learn more about other teams and players.
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    14 mai à 7 h 41
    #19
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    I agree with the approach with new posters. This one has been here for a bit, which makes this post even more deserving of ridicule.


    I can live with that. I wasn't singling you out. I only chose your post because you brought up the problem and made it easy to build upon.
    DeadWingsv2 a aimé ceci.
    14 mai à 8 h 08
    #20
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    Quoting: Letter_Kenny
    Exactly. When proposing trades it's important to not only look at the other team's rosters, but listen to what their fans are saying. They know their teams just like we know our team. Too many posters get their backs up too soon and don't value what the other person is saying. All fanbases are going to have idiots who only want to disagree for the sake of disagreeing. The whole "look at me I need attention" thing. But I listen to what most fans are saying so I can create a better roster next time. Plus it's a great way to learn more about other teams and players.


    I agree I still try to read every post which is easy now between the TDL and draft but leading up to those events you walk away from your computer and come back and there are 5 new pages ACGMs.
    14 mai à 8 h 25
    #21
    Malkinwants2beTheMan
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    Quoting: aedoran
    I agree I still try to read every post which is easy now between the TDL and draft but leading up to those events you walk away from your computer and come back and there are 5 new pages ACGMs.


    It's Eichel Mania right now.
     
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