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My ideal offseason

Créé par: AdnacOil
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 13 mai 2021
Publié: 13 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I'm throwing ideas out there for how I'd want this offseason to go. The trade values aren't going to be exact, and other teams may not be interested in the trades I make, but it's the general concept I'm trying to get behind.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
43 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
2925 000 $
3925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
56 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
43 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
1800 000 $
Transactions
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2.
EDM
BUF
  1. Stalock, Alex
Détails additionnels:
Season opening waivers
3.
TOR
  1. Nurse, Darnell
Détails additionnels:
I'm completely lost on the market value of Nurse/Nylander. Add whatever to get this done, or trade Nurse for a different top 6 F if Toronto isn't interested (Ehlers?)
4.
NSH
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
I miss him and I want him back
5.
VGK
  1. Kassian, Zack
Détails additionnels:
They wanted out of his contract last season and were willing to attach picks to get rid of him. Term for $
6.
EDM
  1. Eriksson, Loui (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Vancouver needs cap space to re sign Hughes/Pettersson (I think). Eriksson not a bad player, just overpayed. Use our cap space to leverage assets out of Vancouver
VAN
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $78 187 872 $669 339 $907 500 $3 312 128 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 8
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
834 167 $834 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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13 mai 2021 à 12 h 53
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Oilers finlly have a legit number 1 D after how many years since Pronger and you want to trade him. Seriously???
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13 mai 2021 à 12 h 54
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The general concept I see is that you aren't trying to make the team better.

Klefbom's status is a monstrous unknown and it's commonly speculated that he'll miss until November at a minimum and could be out until the New Year. I want to know why you're in the market for trading a defencemen who's emerged as a top-pairing guy in the NHL when we have this unknown. There is no certainty that Klefbom returns or how good he'll be when he returns. Nurse should be here for a long time and is looking more and more like the Pronger-lite he was billed as during draft day. He'll be worth his next contract and holds far too much value for the Oilers to move on from him.

Bouchard's emergence on this roster makes Benning unnecessary. I take tremendous pause with him getting another concussion this year. I'd much rather bring back Larsson for 2 or 3 years than a bottom-pairing name that isn't pushing the bill. There's a lot of puck movers on this back end but nobody that's notably proficient at being excellent in their own zone beyond Bear, maybe Kulikov.

Fleury won't be traded to a division rival and Holland isn't going to move on from the first contract he signed for the team after an injury-riddled season for Kassian. He'll be an Oiler next year.

Your bottom six is trash. Benson might carve out a career as a more offensively-gifted 4th line player who can PK but I doubt Marody has any NHL future beyond being a spare forward. Pat Russell is not an NHL player: there's nothing he can do beyond PK at this level. I'd much rather have Archibald who can at least be rotated up and down the lineup. Likewise, Eriksson hasn't been a viable NHL option in like 2 years now. If Edmonton acquires him, it's to bury him in the minors and take a draft asset, not to play him. While you have him as the #7, Kris Russell is also no longer an NHL option. Bring someone in on a league-minimum deal to be a spare instead. The more you take Tippett's toys away from him the more likely it is he optimizes the roster.

My preference is Ullmark over Dreidger: I'm kind of done with Edmonton banking on goalies with less than a total season experience to be their starter and would prefer they invest in something more proven.
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13 mai 2021 à 12 h 54
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Oilers finlly have a legit number 1 D after how many years since Pronger and you want to trade him. Seriously???


Klefbom is right there???
13 mai 2021 à 13 h 3
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Klefbom is right there???


Klefbomb is not a legit 1 D, maybe 2 or 3 D
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13 mai 2021 à 13 h 38
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I'm a Leaf fan and I can tell you Nurse has WAY more value than Willy
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13 mai 2021 à 13 h 46
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So let me get this right:

Your ideal offseason includes trading your best defenseman and taking on a bunch of bad contracts?? Just when we thought this team was ready to be a legit contender!
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13 mai 2021 à 13 h 59
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I'm a Leaf fan and I can tell you Nurse has WAY more value than Willy


Perfect. I won't complain to the Leafs adding
13 mai 2021 à 13 h 59
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Quoting: CD282
So let me get this right:

Your ideal offseason includes trading your best defenseman and taking on a bunch of bad contracts?? Just when we thought this team was ready to be a legit contender!


Klefbom is still there??? I don't get it
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 4
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Klefbom is still there??? I don't get it


Nurse has played ahead of Klefbom for 4 years now, since he was 22. Klefbom is also not going to be as good as he was coming off an 18+ month layoff - if he ever comes back. Your D corps is going to leak GA like crazy, your bottom-6 is trash and you have $15M in goaltenders when only 1 guy can play at a time!
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 7
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Nurse has played ahead of Klefbom for 4 years now, since he was 22. Klefbom is also not going to be as good as he was coming off an 18+ month layoff - if he ever comes back. Your D corps is going to leak GA like crazy, your bottom-6 is trash and you have $15M in goaltenders when only 1 guy can play at a time!


So my dcore is supposedly going to leak GA like crazy. Your solution is Darnell Nurse? He's 2nd worst in GA/60 for Oilers dmen in the last 2 seasons (2nd to Barrie). Hmmm
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 8
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Ok so let me understand this. I’m going to skip past the nurse thing because that’s extremely unlikely but at least worth having conversation about. You buy out Neal then use that cap space to help a division rival? I’d keep Neal all day long before doing that. Not bringing larsson back I think that’s suicidal for the blueline he’s been the glue holding a lot of it together. Benning I loved the guy it’s hard not to just like Davidson they busted their butts off and as fans we generally showed our appreciation but reality needs to settle in they were sheltered third pairing type of guys who had to bust their butts and give it absolutely everything for a hope of playing time. We are suppose to be in a contending window can’t do that if letting quality like larsson walk then spend assets on bringing back benning that’s 6 steps backwards.
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13 mai 2021 à 14 h 9
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So my dcore is supposedly going to leak GA like crazy. Your solution is Darnell Nurse? He's 2nd worst in GA/60 for Oilers dmen in the last 2 seasons (2nd to Barrie). Hmmm


He's the guy successive NHL coaches have relied on the most to go up against the opposition's best players. I do trust their judgement over yours.
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 10
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He's the guy successive NHL coaches have relied on the most to go up against the opposition's best players. I do trust their judgement over yours.


I wasn't make a judgement, I was providing evidence. You said my dcore is going to leak GA. I countered with Darnell Nurse being on the ice for the 2nd most GA per 60 minutes.
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: AdnacOil
So my dcore is supposedly going to leak GA like crazy. Your solution is Darnell Nurse? He's 2nd worst in GA/60 for Oilers dmen in the last 2 seasons (2nd to Barrie). Hmmm


Careful reading stats like that your not taking into account he plays 25-30 minutes a night against the toughest competition. Along with Barrie both of them easily provide a lot more positives than negatives.
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 27
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Quoting: Timmah007
Careful reading stats like that your not taking into account he plays 25-30 minutes a night against the toughest competition. Along with Barrie both of them easily provide a lot more positives than negatives.


Per PuckIQ, Nurse still has the 2nd worst GA/60 among Oilers defensemen against elite competition.

Barrie: 3.8 GA/60
Nurse: 3.0
Lagesson: 2.6
Larsson: 2.0
Bear: 1.7
Russell: 1.6
Bouchard: 1.4
Caleb Jones: 1.1
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13 mai 2021 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: Timmah007
Careful reading stats like that your not taking into account he plays 25-30 minutes a night against the toughest competition. Along with Barrie both of them easily provide a lot more positives than negatives.


That's why I use SKATR charts primarily that factor in full context but... they show that Nurse gets only slightly tougher deployment so maybe a small factor

Nurse also plays disproportionately with McDavid ✔

Not too tough all told
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 31
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Per PuckIQ, Nurse still has the 2nd worst GA/60 among Oilers defensemen against elite competition.

Barrie: 3.8 GA/60
Nurse: 3.0
Lagesson: 2.6
Larsson: 2.0
Bear: 1.7
Russell: 1.6
Bouchard: 1.4
Caleb Jones: 1.1


If your making a case for moving nurse after the year he’s had then please change your username it scares the crap out of me.
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 31
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Per PuckIQ, Nurse still has the 2nd worst GA/60 among Oilers defensemen against elite competition.

Barrie: 3.8 GA/60
Nurse: 3.0
Lagesson: 2.6
Larsson: 2.0
Bear: 1.7
Russell: 1.6
Bouchard: 1.4
Caleb Jones: 1.1


Makes me wonder what a Bouchard/Jones pair could do in a fairly tough role 👀 I imagine it'd at least be pretty cool and it'd be sad to see them Seattle CJ
13 mai 2021 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: Timmah007
If your making a case for moving nurse after the year he’s had then please change your username it scares the crap out of me.


The alternative is giving Nurse $7M-$8M when his stats were zoomed by McDavid all season.

It amazes me how much this fanbase hasn't learned from the Kassian contract.
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13 mai 2021 à 15 h 35
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ADNAC ON CAPFRIENDLY LETS GO
13 mai 2021 à 15 h 43
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Quoting: ken_holland
The alternative is giving Nurse $7M-$8M when his stats were zoomed by McDavid all season.

It amazes me how much this fanbase hasn't learned from the Kassian contract.


So the alternative would be to let go of everyone who has success with mcdavid?
13 mai 2021 à 16 h 10
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So the alternative would be to let go of everyone who has success with mcdavid?


It's to stop overrating players that have had success with McDavid.
13 mai 2021 à 16 h 55
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It's to stop overrating players that have had success with McDavid.


Well I personally don’t buy into that train of thought. Keep replacing anyone good and keep those who suck?
14 mai 2021 à 12 h 2
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Well I personally don’t buy into that train of thought. Keep replacing anyone good and keep those who suck?


Good with McDavid perhaps.

Nurse without McDavid has been brutal this season. Almost at a 40% goal share.
 
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