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Cannot imagine they will be out on Eichel

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Date de création initiale: mai 13, 2021
Publié: 13 mai à 10 h 41
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Explications
Fantastic trade or lousy trade?

(I am fan of neither team)
Transactions
BUF
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. DeBrusk, Jake
  3. Lauko, Jakub
  4. Berglund, Victor
  5. 2021 1e round pick (BOS)
  6. 2022 1e round pick (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Package appears underwhelming but salary fits. What else would work here?

I know Sabres fans will want Byfield, Lafreniere, Lundell level of player, but I don't think those guys would be moved (certainly not before Eichel sees the ice post-surgery). The value here would come from the prospects and picks.

I know Coyle has NTC and is in no way a 1C but is not 3RW either. Only works is if he waived to be top-6 center. He could be stabilizing piece in Sabres lineup. Debrusk, if they are counting on rebound. Maybe Studnicka if not. Lauko and Berglund are two guys that will be NHLers next year. Maybe Lohrei instead of Berglund.

Would also probably mean Krejci days in Boston are likely over.
BOS
  1. Eichel, Jack
Rachats de contrats
  • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
  • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Eric Staal: 1 625 000 $ (50%)
  • Taylor Hall: 4 000 000 $ (50%)
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2021
BUF
BOS
BUF
BOS
FLA
MTL
BUF
MTL
BUF
COL
BUF
2022
BUF
BOS
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3081 500 000 $76 531 624 $1 487 500 $4 602 500 $4 968 376 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
BUF
Eakin, Cody
2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
6 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
3 050 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
BUF
Thompson, Tage
1 400 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 3
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
5 200 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
BUF
Bjork, Anders
1 600 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
BUF
Ruotsalainen, Arttu
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
BUF
Rieder, Tobias
700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
BUF
Caggiula, Drake
700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
894 167 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
BUF
Sheahan, Riley
700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
874 125 $
C
RFA - 1
BOS
DeBrusk, Jake
3 675 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
BUF
Asplund, Rasmus
845 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
5 250 000 $
C, AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
BOS
Lauko, Jakub
764 167 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
BUF
Hutton, Carter
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BUF
Bryson, Jacob
889 166 $
DG
RFA - 2
BUF
Miller, Colin
3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BUF
Irwin, Matt
700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
BUF
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
778 333 $
G
RFA - 2
BOS
Berglund, Victor
818 333 $
DD
RFA - 3
BUF
Borgen, William
864 166 $
DD
RFA - 1
BUF
Tokarski, Dustin
725 000 $
G
UFA - 2
BUF
Lekkas, Stefanos
700 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BUF
McCabe, Jake
2 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
BUF
Davidson, Brandon
700 000 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1

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13 mai à 10 h 46
#1
Lenny7
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If the first thought in your head is "This seems underwhelming", it's probably because it is.

The "Laf/Byfield" asks seem like a long shot, but if you're Buffalo, you've gotta be getting back a really, really solid prospect/young NHLer at the bare minimum+whatever.
13 mai à 10 h 46
#2
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Don't mind the trade value...but please that is the worse reason why Coyle would waive his NTC....it ain't happening.
13 mai à 10 h 47
#3
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for that offer they would be
13 mai à 10 h 48
#4
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Boston would and should be in on Eichel. However they simply wouldn't be able to offer something more enticing than any other team would. Their picks are too high in the draft. Their prospects aren't good enough to be considered cornerstone pieces and the roster players they'd be willing to give up are not the players Buffalo would want in a trade for Eichel. NOT to mention Boston is a divisional rival which means they would have to pay higher than LAK for example.

It would be cool to see Eichel go home but I just can't see it.
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13 mai à 10 h 56
#5
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Just dont think they have the pieces. Coyle and DeBrusk have been underwhelming this season and guys like Studnicka/Vlader/Vaak/Lohrei are all decent pieces but easily get beat by other teams.
13 mai à 11 h 04
#6
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Quoting: Lenny7
If the first thought in your head is "This seems underwhelming", it's probably because it is.

The "Laf/Byfield" asks seem like a long shot, but if you're Buffalo, you've gotta be getting back a really, really solid prospect/young NHLer at the bare minimum+whatever.


I agree. And Bruins don't have that piece.
But is Buffalo really being offered a top-10 NHL prospect or elite young player anywhere?

Byfield, Lafreniere, Lundell, Seider, Zegras, Drysdale, Caufield, Holtz, Raymond, Stuetzle, Sanderson, etc... don't appear available.
Rossi and Turcotte look on the fringe of possible
McMichael maybe if they took salary back. Maybe Lapierre in same scenario.
Maybe an high-end winger prospect like Boldy, Kaliyev, Denisenko, Kravtsov, Marchenko
Or maybe upside center like Morozov, Khusnutdinov, Kupari, Pinto...

Who is really available to them at this point?
13 mai à 11 h 15
#7
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
Just dont think they have the pieces. Coyle and DeBrusk have been underwhelming this season and guys like Studnicka/Vlader/Vaak/Lohrei are all decent pieces but easily get beat by other teams.


Would like to see list of guys actually being offered.
Sabres will want top-flight guys...but teams seem reluctant to offer top young guy and instead are offering a handful of good, young pieces

Coyle / Debrusk / Lauko / Berglund / two 1sts

is not all that different than these (just looking at recent offers)

Buch / Chytil / Jones / 1st / 3rd
Boldy / Rask / Dumba / Khovanov / 1st
Kotkaniemi / Drouin / 1st / 2nd / 4th
Schmaltz / Hayton / Kuemper / 1st / 2nd / 4th
Necas / Gardiner / 1st
13 mai à 11 h 17
#8
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Would like to see list of guys actually being offered.
Sabres will want top-flight guys...but teams seem reluctant to offer top young guy and instead are offering a handful of good, young pieces

Coyle / Debrusk / Lauko / Berglund / two 1sts

is not all that different than these (just looking at recent offers)

Buch / Chytil / Jones / 1st / 3rd
Boldy / Rask / Dumba / Khovanov / 1st
Kotkaniemi / Drouin / 1st / 2nd / 4th
Schmaltz / Hayton / Kuemper / 1st / 2nd / 4th
Necas / Gardiner / 1st


Much worse than any of those. Not a single high end piece coming from Boston

Buch + Chytil > DeBrusk + Coyle. Jones is also legit
Boldy is higher end and Dumba > Coyle and Debrusk
KK is highish end
Hayton is still highest end and Schmaltz > Coyle or DeBusk
Necas is legit
13 mai à 11 h 22
#9
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Unless Buffalo waits until next offseason to trade Eichel (once Eichel has a NMC), I highly doubt Eichel goes to Boston.
13 mai à 11 h 25
#10
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
Much worse than any of those. Not a single high end piece coming from Boston

Buch + Chytil > DeBrusk + Coyle. Jones is also legit
Boldy is higher end and Dumba > Coyle and Debrusk
KK is highish end
Hayton is still highest end and Schmaltz > Coyle or DeBusk
Necas is legit


I don't disagree on any of those. (Maybe Kotkaniemi)
And would take Necas deal.

Was just thinking Bruins have got to be in on Eichel...but hard to fashion a package that isn't 'sum of the parts' value.
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13 mai à 11 h 26
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Just not good trading partners TBH. Not only that, but if Barkov becomes a UFA he'll be a guy you can sign and not give up any assets for.
13 mai à 11 h 33
#12
Lenny7
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I agree. And Bruins don't have that piece.
But is Buffalo really being offered a top-10 NHL prospect or elite young player anywhere?

Byfield, Lafreniere, Lundell, Seider, Zegras, Drysdale, Caufield, Holtz, Raymond, Stuetzle, Sanderson, etc... don't appear available.
Rossi and Turcotte look on the fringe of possible
McMichael maybe if they took salary back. Maybe Lapierre in same scenario.
Maybe an high-end winger prospect like Boldy, Kaliyev, Denisenko, Kravtsov, Marchenko
Or maybe upside center like Morozov, Khusnutdinov, Kupari, Pinto...

Who is really available to them at this point?


I think, if Boston were in, there's no way that Stud isn't in the package.
13 mai à 11 h 36
#13
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I don't disagree on any of those. (Maybe Kotkaniemi)
And would take Necas deal.

Was just thinking Bruins have got to be in on Eichel...but hard to fashion a package that isn't 'sum of the parts' value.


Oh yeah you're right for sure. Theyll be in on him. Someone else made a good point that since its in division, the sabres will drive the price up that way too
 
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