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Eichel

Créé par: Davioparker
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 13 mai 2021
Publié: 13 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Go for it, amirite?
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  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Necas, Martin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
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To take a UFA - McGinn, Martinook, or Paquette
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13 mai 2021 à 9 h 16
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Bout two solid pieces short
13 mai 2021 à 9 h 27
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Not enough but then again Hall went for only a 2nd so what the hell do I know?
13 mai 2021 à 9 h 29
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I was pleased to see we weren't grossly overpaying for Eichel here, but according to Sabres fans, this may be an underpay.
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13 mai 2021 à 9 h 44
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I don’t think either Hamilton or Svechnikov sign those kind of contracts, and that is a super soft offer for Eichel, but what the heck does this team do if they have ANY injuries?
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 19
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Bout two solid pieces short


For a guy who will more than likely never play for your team again?
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 20
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Not enough but then again Hall went for only a 2nd so what the hell do I know?


Yeah, I think the pressure is on for Kevyn Adams, and if he holds out like he did with Hall, he'll get something much less than this offer.
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 21
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I don’t think either Hamilton or Svechnikov sign those kind of contracts, and that is a super soft offer for Eichel, but what the heck does this team do if they have ANY injuries?


Yeah thats a concern is injuries. Maybe the matching 8x8 deals for the two best friends is a pipe dream, but more likely Svech will take a bridge and Dougie will sign that type of deal.

If Skjei is in the trade instead of Gards then theres a little more cap room for a 13th fwd or 7th dman
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13 mai 2021 à 10 h 33
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For a guy who will more than likely never play for your team again?


On contract for 5 more years
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 38
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On contract for 5 more years


You must not be too aware of the medical situation thats occurred with his neck injury and them not allowing him to have surgery. Yeah stuff like that causes athletes to sit out and not want to play for you every again. No amount of money is worth longterm health.
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 44
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Yeah thats a concern is injuries. Maybe the matching 8x8 deals for the two best friends is a pipe dream, but more like Svech will take a bridge and Dougie will sign that type of deal.

If Skjei is in the trade instead of Gards then theres a little more cap room for a 13th fwd or 7th dman


I think all the big names coming off their ELC’s Svechnikov, Makar, Heiskanen, Fox, Hughes, Dahlin take bridge deals to make more money for themselves in the long run and give clubs some flexibility in the short term.
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13 mai 2021 à 10 h 47
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I think all the big names coming off their ELC’s Svechnikov, Makar, Heiskanen, Fox, Hughes, Dahlin take bridge deals to make more money for themselves in the long run and give clubs some flexibility in the short term.


Yeah I can see that - but I want Svech here long term lol
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 48
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You must not be too aware of the medical situation thats occurred with his neck injury and them not allowing him to have surgery. Yeah stuff like that causes athletes to sit out and not want to play for you every again. No amount of money is worth longterm health.


If Buffalo is getting offered nothing, you really think he's gonna sit out for 5 years straight?
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 50
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If Buffalo is getting offered nothing, you really think he's gonna sit out for 5 years straight?


If thats the case then they terminate contracts and Buffalo truly gets nothing. The Sabres have zero leverage and a pretty inept GM. This isn't going to end well for them unless someone overpays.
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 52
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If thats the case then they terminate contracts and Buffalo truly gets nothing. The Sabres have zero leverage and a pretty inept GM. This isn't going to end well for them unless someone overpays.


Buffalo has to agree to terminate the contract, they have his rights for 5 years. He can't just walk out and leave, also this is a major if scenario. Eichel still hasn't requested a trade, Buffalo isn't trading him for a good piece, a decent piece, and a waiver player
13 mai 2021 à 10 h 54
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I know Buffalo fans will be happy to stop seeing Eichel proposals.

The proposal will definitely need a Vinny Tro and another good prospect too. If it is Vinny tro, maybe we can swap out Necas for Jarvis. Idk, maybe not.

In the ever so small chance that this would happen (although I wouldnt put it past Tom D discussed acquiring Stamkos when he was rumored available) we would need Seattle to take Skjei. Payment of Geekie, maybe.
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13 mai 2021 à 12 h 28
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Yeah I can see that - but I want Svech here long term lol


That’s how I feel about Makar. A $10M a year contract for 8 yrs would sting right now, but those would age just fine
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13 mai 2021 à 14 h 54
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Buffalo has to agree to terminate the contract, they have his rights for 5 years. He can't just walk out and leave, also this is a major if scenario. Eichel still hasn't requested a trade, Buffalo isn't trading him for a good piece, a decent piece, and a waiver player


His quotes earlier in the week were all but explicitly saying 'trade me'. They're messing with his heath at this point, it's not just an on ice issue. That stuff cant be fixed so easily. Jack has all the leverage to just not report next season and say he's not playing for them ever again, and smart GMs like Don Waddell know that. This will not end the way Sabres fans think it will.
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That’s how I feel about Makar. A $10M a year contract for 8 yrs would sting right now, but those would age just fine


I would feel the same way if we had Cale. He's a beast.
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13 mai 2021 à 14 h 57
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I know Buffalo fans will be happy to stop seeing Eichel proposals.

The proposal will definitely need a Vinny Tro and another good prospect too. If it is Vinny tro, maybe we can swap out Necas for Jarvis. Idk, maybe not.

In the ever so small chance that this would happen (although I wouldnt put it past Tom D discussed acquiring Stamkos when he was rumored available) we would need Seattle to take Skjei. Payment of Geekie, maybe.


I see where you're coming from, but Necas has more team flexibility contract wise and is two years younger than Jack. I would absolutely do Tro-Skjei-Geekie-1st for Eichel. But I think the Necas-LDman not named Slavin-Pick-B prospect deal is closer to fair value.
13 mai 2021 à 15 h 30
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Gardiner is not a positive for Buffalo. So this trade is worse than Necas and a 1st for Eichel and I just can't see that happening.

They might not ever play him again but they will get better offers from other teams
13 mai 2021 à 15 h 57
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Gardiner is not a positive for Buffalo. So this trade is worse than Necas and a 1st for Eichel and I just can't see that happening.

They might not ever play him again but they will get better offers from other teams


Thats fair - I think Gards has a bad reputation though. What if it were Skjei instead of Gards?
13 mai 2021 à 16 h 11
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Thats fair - I think Gards has a bad reputation though. What if it were Skjei instead of Gards?


If Buffalo has to get rid of Eichel I think they want to get younger. Gardiner and Skjei don't do that.

Also, Foegele's qualifying offer is 2,150,000. He will not sign for less than that and would go to UFA
13 mai 2021 à 22 h 19
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Bout two solid pieces short


I'm sure few agree, but I'm not trading necas for Eichel at this point. Eichel is damaged good potentially. sure it may work out, but you cant take that chance with a 10 mil cap hit. Necas could be a 70-80 point player for far less money. the cap means way more than people account for.
14 mai 2021 à 8 h 44
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If Buffalo has to get rid of Eichel I think they want to get younger. Gardiner and Skjei don't do that.

Also, Foegele's qualifying offer is 2,150,000. He will not sign for less than that and would go to UFA


Hmmmmm okay - my mistake on Foegele's QO, he'll probably walk then.

Okay - what about Necas and Bean for Eichel? Maybe throw in a 2nd?
14 mai 2021 à 8 h 45
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Quoting: Moosetache
I'm sure few agree, but I'm not trading necas for Eichel at this point. Eichel is damaged good potentially. sure it may work out, but you cant take that chance with a 10 mil cap hit. Necas could be a 70-80 point player for far less money. the cap means way more than people account for.


Yeah, I'm super high on Marty too, but this is Jack freakin' EIchel we're talking about here. I don't think he's damaged, I think he's just in a dumpster fire org.
 
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