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Créé par: redw1n9s
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 15 avr. 2021
Publié: 11 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Laine is unhappy; I called this to a T - Torts is a horrible coach, the Jackets finish close to last, he's out of a job and Laine has no interest in being there.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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  1. Laine, Patrik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
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  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
  2. Pánik, Richard
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
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11 mai 2021 à 14 h 25
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Laine scares the crap out of me
11 mai 2021 à 14 h 38
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I’m a big fan of Bertuzzi, but if I’m CBJ, I don’t give you a second, ask for you to add your 2021 2nd.

Still, Jesus…if CBJ had four first rounders this year…
11 mai 2021 à 14 h 38
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Laine scares the crap out of me


I don't disagree, but he's 23 and just tons of potential. We need a Mantha replacement to at least give us some size.
11 mai 2021 à 14 h 40
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I’m a big fan of Bertuzzi, but if I’m CBJ, I don’t give you a second, ask for you to add your 2021 2nd.

Still, Jesus…if CBJ had four first rounders this year…


I think at best we would agree to just exclude the 2nd altogether.
11 mai 2021 à 14 h 43
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I think at best we would agree to just exclude the 2nd altogether.


I just don’t think that’s the best package they could get for Laine, then. Cause I’d also/either ask for Berggren…
11 mai 2021 à 15 h 44
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I just don’t think that’s the best package they could get for Laine, then. Cause I’d also/either ask for Berggren…


Don't think the Wings have enough depth to give both Bert and Berg. The price for Laine, I would assume, is much reduced based on his last year and a half of play and shenanigans.
11 mai 2021 à 16 h 11
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Quoting: redw1n9s
Don't think the Wings have enough depth to give both Bert and Berg. The price for Laine, I would assume, is much reduced based on his last year and a half of play and shenanigans.


If by year and a half it’s more “two or three months.” Take out March and April and he’s a near PPG guy over the past now two seasons.
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11 mai 2021 à 17 h 52
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If by year and a half it’s more “two or three months.” Take out March and April and he’s a near PPG guy over the past now two seasons.


Ehhh, I'm giving him a generous curve playing with Wheeler and Scheif and Ehlers on that PP...he is a top pick that was traded by the team that chose him and now quickly on the outs with his 2nd team. Any team would be foolish to overpay for Laine at this point, regardless of how promising he may be.

How often is a PPG, #2 pick traded by their own org even before he hits his prime....never. Shenanigans is an accurate word.
11 mai 2021 à 18 h 17
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Ehhh, I'm giving him a generous curve playing with Wheeler and Scheif and Ehlers on that PP...he is a top pick that was traded by the team that chose him and now quickly on the outs with his 2nd team. Any team would be foolish to overpay for Laine at this point, regardless of how promising he may be.

How often is a PPG, #2 pick traded by their own org even before he hits his prime....never. Shenanigans is an accurate word.


I don’t disagree with you on the shenanigans. Mind you, he was traded for the guy who was picked right behind him, so we know that **** left and right.

Problem is, what I’m reading here is “I discount his productivity when he’s playing with good players, but I don’t discount his (lack of) productivity when he’s playing with bad players.” Even for a “PPG, #2 pick…before his prime,” as you put it.

Can’t have your cake (trading for a guy you slot on your top-line and expect to get you back to the playoffs) and eat it too (trade and sign him for below-market value).
11 mai 2021 à 18 h 22
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Quoting: dopplsan
I don’t disagree with you on the shenanigans. Mind you, he was traded for the guy who was picked right behind him, so we know that **** left and right.

Problem is, what I’m reading here is “I discount his productivity when he’s playing with good players, but I don’t discount his (lack of) productivity when he’s playing with bad players.” Even for a “PPG, #2 pick…before his prime,” as you put it.

Can’t have your cake (trading for a guy you slot on your top-line and expect to get you back to the playoffs) and eat it too (get him for dirt-cheap and sign him for dirt-cheap).


Sure but you can't have Berggren. And Bertuzzi, And a first. For a guy who's now engineered his way off of two teams...
11 mai 2021 à 18 h 23
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Sure but you can't have Berggren. And Bertuzzi, And a first. For a guy who's now engineered his way off of two teams...


Then this ACGM don’t work, my man 🤷‍♂️. CBJ ain’t trading him for that little, and Laine ain’t signing for that little.

If Jarmo is trading Laine, at minimum he needs to get what he would’ve gotten for Dubois had he not hissy-fitted his way out of town.

Laine’s QO is $7.5M. I’m willing to bet that he is, at worst, going to just accept two QO’s and hit UFA, if nobody is willing to give him the long-term contract he wants. It’s ****ty, yes, but also can’t blame the guy.
11 mai 2021 à 18 h 29
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Then this ACGM don’t work, my man 🤷‍♂️. CBJ ain’t trading him for that little, and Laine ain’t signing for that little.

If Jarmo is trading Laine, at minimum he needs to get what he would’ve gotten for Dubois had he not hissy-fitted his way out of town.

Laine’s QO is $7.5M. I’m willing to bet that he is, at worst, going to just accept two QO’s and hit UFA, if nobody is willing to give him the long-term contract he wants. It’s ****ty, yes, but also can’t blame the guy.


Don't care what he makes. He's not worth a first, Bertuzzi and Berggren right now. He's too unstable and no one's going to risk that much of their future on a flake.
11 mai 2021 à 18 h 32
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Don't care what he makes. He's not worth a first, Bertuzzi and Berggren right now. He's too unstable and no one's going to risk that much of their future on a flake.


Again man…see above post 🤷‍♂️
12 mai 2021 à 8 h 53
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Then this ACGM don’t work, my man 🤷‍♂️. CBJ ain’t trading him for that little, and Laine ain’t signing for that little.

If Jarmo is trading Laine, at minimum he needs to get what he would’ve gotten for Dubois had he not hissy-fitted his way out of town.

Laine’s QO is $7.5M. I’m willing to bet that he is, at worst, going to just accept two QO’s and hit UFA, if nobody is willing to give him the long-term contract he wants. It’s ****ty, yes, but also can’t blame the guy.


Not quite. He's an RFA and can just hold CBJ hostage for as long as he wants. CBJ is going to have to decide if they want to lose him for nothing or want to get what they can. He is absolutely going to return less than he's "worth"...without a doubt.
12 mai 2021 à 8 h 59
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Quoting: redw1n9s
Not quite. He's an RFA and can just hold CBJ hostage for as long as he wants. CBJ is going to have to decide if they want to lose him for nothing or want to get what they can. He is absolutely going to return less than he's "worth"...without a doubt.


Again man…see above post 🤷‍♂️
 
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