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Équipe: 2021-22 Flyers de Philadelphie
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    11 mai 2021 à 12 h 37
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    11 mai 2021 à 12 h 41
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    Youre really going to waste a 1st rounder (a top 15 pick) to protect JVR from expansion, because thats the only person other than NAK or Hagg that they'll take.

    Thats pretty poor asset management. Especially when we have many more goal scorers than play makers.

    And while Jenner would be a good pickup, I cant see Allison as a 2nd liner or Foerster as a 3rd liner (yet). But I cant see Larsson as better than Myers and Hagg, or a 4.5mil Ghost as your 7th dman.

    In some ways I think you're moving the wrong players
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    11 mai 2021 à 12 h 53
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    Quoting: Hammerwise
    Youre really going to waste a 1st rounder (a top 15 pick) to protect JVR from expansion, because thats the only person other than NAK or Hagg that they'll take.

    Thats pretty poor asset management. Especially when we have many more goal scorers than play makers.

    And while Jenner would be a good pickup, I cant see Allison as a 2nd liner or Foerster as a 3rd liner (yet). But I cant see Larsson as better than Myers and Hagg, or a 4.5mil Ghost as your 7th dman.

    In some ways I think you're moving the wrong players


    Giving up a top 15 pick for them to take Voracek is too much 2022 1st should do it. I can see Allison as a middle 6 forward next year, but Foerster as a 3rd liner is unrealistic imo he probaply plays the next season either in OHL or on the 4th line
    11 mai 2021 à 12 h 58
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    Quoting: HikinenNisti
    Giving up a top 15 pick for them to take Voracek is too much 2022 1st should do it. I can see Allison as a middle 6 forward next year, but Foerster as a 3rd liner is unrealistic imo he probaply plays the next season either in OHL or on the 4th line


    Many GM's are not high on the 2021 draft. Also there is not as much of a sample size on the draft picks this year.
    11 mai 2021 à 13 h 1
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    Quoting: Dmh1055
    Many GM's are not high on the 2021 draft. Also there is not as much of a sample size on the draft picks this year.


    I'm pretty sure GMs can pick a decent prospect at #13 OA. Trading a first to get rid of a top 15 RW in the league is insane.
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    11 mai 2021 à 13 h 8
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    I'm pretty sure GMs can pick a decent prospect at #13 OA. Trading a first to get rid of a top 15 RW in the league is insane.


    Much less of a sure thing than in normal years. It's a worthy prospect to move to get cap space. Voracek as a top 15 RW in the league is overplayed. He's a decent player on the right team as a compliment to a great player and solid goal scorer as his line mates.
    11 mai 2021 à 13 h 30
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    If Jones states he doesn’t want to stay. I’d be happy with this return. We get a young winger a solid defenseman and 2 goood picks.
    11 mai 2021 à 13 h 32
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    Quoting: Dmh1055
    Much less of a sure thing than in normal years. It's a worthy prospect to move to get cap space. Voracek as a top 15 RW in the league is overplayed. He's a decent player on the right team as a compliment to a great player and solid goal scorer as his line mates.


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    So I guess anyone who plays with good linemates is useless...got it!

    Man your arguments are always woof...
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    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 16
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    Quoting: Hammerwise
    Youre really going to waste a 1st rounder (a top 15 pick) to protect JVR from expansion, because thats the only person other than NAK or Hagg that they'll take.

    Thats pretty poor asset management. Especially when we have many more goal scorers than play makers.

    And while Jenner would be a good pickup, I cant see Allison as a 2nd liner or Foerster as a 3rd liner (yet). But I cant see Larsson as better than Myers and Hagg, or a 4.5mil Ghost as your 7th dman.

    In some ways I think you're moving the wrong players


    It wasn't about protecting JVR, it was getting Seattle to take Voracek. The Flyers may very well need to sweeten the pot for Seattle to take either player. The sweetener to take JVR is probably only a 3rd or 4th round pick given that he only has 2 years on his deal and is at least worth his remaining salary if not his salary cap. He's a worthy 5 or 6 million dollar player on most clubs.

    If the Flyers are filled with goal scorers but not play makes why aren't they scoring? Offensively, they severely lack a scorer who can hit a spot to score and cause rebounds. They don't have any issue getting tips or getting to rebounds when they occur. So they're setting up the opportunities but not finishing.
    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 23
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
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    So I guess anyone who plays with good linemates is useless...got it!

    Man your arguments are always woof...


    Did I say useless? I just don't think they're a game breaker. They're a nice piece to have and they are important but without the other pieces they're not as effective. Also you rate Voracek as a top 15 RW in the game. He's a #2 RW on his own team at best. #3 if Farabee is playing RW.

    Outside of his own team I don't see him ranking well in this list:
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    Laine
    Reilly Smith
    Tuch
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    Rantanen
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    William Nylander
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    Dadonov
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    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 26
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    Quoting: Dmh1055
    Did I say useless? I just don't think they're a game breaker. They're a nice piece to have and they are important but without the other pieces they're not as effective. Also you rate Voracek as a top 15 RW in the game. He's a #2 RW on his own team at best. #3 if Farabee is playing RW.

    Outside of his own team I don't see him ranking well in this list:
    Kucherov
    Kane
    Mantha
    Atkinson
    Bjorkstrand
    Laine
    Reilly Smith
    Tuch
    Stone
    Rantanen
    Zuccarello
    Tarasenko
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    Garland
    Keller
    Meier
    Dustin Brown
    Kapanen
    Oshie
    Pastrnak
    Eberle
    Buchnevich
    Marner
    William Nylander
    Wheeler
    Toffoli
    Josh Anderson
    Connor Brown
    Batherson
    Dadonov
    Boeser


    Just stop....you're killing me! If you honestly believe everyone on this list is better than Jake, well, you clearly don't know hockey and should refrain from any future posts on this site.

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    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 32
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    Just stop....you're killing me! If you honestly believe everyone on this list is better than Jake, well, you clearly don't know hockey and should refrain from any future posts on this site.

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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Just stop....you're killing me! If you honestly believe everyone on this list is better than Jake, well, you clearly don't know hockey and should refrain from any future posts on this site.

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    He’s not top 15 is the point. Debatably better than anyone on that list.
    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 36
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Just stop....you're killing me! If you honestly believe everyone on this list is better than Jake, well, you clearly don't know hockey and should refrain from any future posts on this site.


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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Just stop....you're killing me! If you honestly believe everyone on this list is better than Jake, well, you clearly don't know hockey and should refrain from any future posts on this site.

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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Just stop....you're killing me! If you honestly believe everyone on this list is better than Jake, well, you clearly don't know hockey and should refrain from any future posts on this site.

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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Just stop....you're killing me! If you honestly believe everyone on this list is better than Jake, well, you clearly don't know hockey and should refrain from any future posts on this site.

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    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 36
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    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/6d/f8/d86df878e11e78476165165706500234.gif


    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 37
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    Quoting: Dmh1055
    He’s not top 15 is the point. Debatably better than anyone on that list.


    Interesting take since he was 8th in RWer scoring this year, 10th last year and 14th the previous year. Again, your takes are woof
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    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 38
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    Interesting take since he was 8th in RWer scoring this year, 10th last year and 14th the previous year. Again, your takes are woof


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    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 44
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    Interesting take since he was 8th in RWer scoring this year, 10th last year and 14th the previous year. Again, your takes are woof


    He’s an 8 million dollar high scoring defenseman. He makes no high impact plays nor changes momentum. Points alone don’t determine a top 15 player. He’s not even close to a top 15 player in salary cap to on ice play value. Woof it up doggie.
    11 mai 2021 à 14 h 53
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    He’s an 8 million dollar high scoring defenseman. He makes no high impact plays nor changes momentum. Points alone don’t determine a top 15 player. He’s not even close to a top 15 player in salary cap to on ice play value. Woof it up doggie.


    Can you enlighten me as to when jake became a D-man? Seems like you are so upset because you are completely wrong in your argument that you can't even keep your positions straight.

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    11 mai 2021 à 15 h 1
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    Can you enlighten me as to when jake became a D-man? Seems like you are so upset because you are completely wrong in your argument that you can't even keep your positions straight.

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    Yikes. I compared him to being a high scoring defenseman. 10-15 goals and 40 to 50 assists. Sharpen up. tenor.gif
    11 mai 2021 à 15 h 2
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    Yikes. I compared him to being a high scoring defenseman. 10-15 goals and 40 to 50 assists. Sharpen up. tenor.gif


    Oh so every player that doesn't score a lot but gets a lot of assists is comparable to a top end offensive D man, got it. Another really dog**** take LMFAO
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    11 mai 2021 à 16 h 5
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    Oh so every player that doesn't score a lot but gets a lot of assists is comparable to a top end offensive D man, got it. Another really dog**** take LMFAO


    Okay, so let’s try this. Trade your top 15 ranked RW in an actual hockey trade. No bad contract back and let’s see the assets you have coming back. Let’s see if you are more than a rambling pile of hot takes and insults. I doubt it.
    11 mai 2021 à 16 h 24
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    Okay, so let’s try this. Trade your top 15 ranked RW in an actual hockey trade. No bad contract back and let’s see the assets you have coming back. Let’s see if you are more than a rambling pile of hot takes and insults. I doubt it.


    I don't want to trade Jake...I prefer to keep him and lose JVR to SEA.
    11 mai 2021 à 16 h 39
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    I don't want to trade Jake...I prefer to keep him and lose JVR to SEA.


    That’s fine. But that’s because the cost to even move Jake is too high. His salary should be 5 million and it’s too long in term remaining. There’s too many valuable RW’s to have at a much lower cost. The Flyers have valuable prospects in that position. Trading Jake’s cap space and a 1st to upgrade the defense RD which is a dire need and other areas is more important than the loss of Jake the player who is replaceable at this stage of his career. He also seems to not mesh with any center the Flyers have unless it’s Giroux.
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    That’s fine. But that’s because the cost to even move Jake is too high. His salary should be 5 million and it’s too long in term remaining. There’s too many valuable RW’s to have at a much lower cost. The Flyers have valuable prospects in that position. Trading Jake’s cap space and a 1st to upgrade the defense RD which is a dire need and other areas is more important than the loss of Jake the player who is replaceable at this stage of his career. He also seems to not mesh with any center the Flyers have unless it’s Giroux.


    Not mesh with any center except Giroux...have you not been paying attention when those 2 and Coots are on the ice? At this moment I am going to assume that you don't actually watch hockey.
    11 mai 2021 à 17 h 8
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    Not mesh with any center except Giroux...have you not been paying attention when those 2 and Coots are on the ice? At this moment I am going to assume that you don't actually watch hockey.


    Nice fall back when you have no come back. But that has been TK’s RW slot when Giroux is left wing with Coots. That’s a line that goes back to 19-20 as well. Obviously they tried many combos this year since 3c was a big hole and the season was not successful.
     
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