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Créé par: Dan1977
Date de création initiale: mai 6, 2021
Publié: 6 mai à 21 h 24
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Lundkvist, Nils3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Buchnevich, Pavel54 750 000 $
Chytil, Filip32 750 000 $
Fontaine, Gabriel1900 000 $
Gauthier, Julien1900 000 $
Howden, Brett1900 000 $
Lindgren, Ryan53 250 000 $
Shesterkin, Igor65 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Smith, Brendan11 000 000 $
Saad, Brandon34 250 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Larkin, Dylan
DET
  1. Schneider, Braden
  2. Strome, Ryan
  3. Kravtsov, Vitali
  4. 2021 1e round pick (NYR)
NYR
    SEA
    1. Howden, Brett
    NYR
    1. Reaves, Ryan
    VGK
    1. Robertson, Matthew
    2. Gauthier, Julien
    3. 2021 4e round pick (OTT)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
    • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
    • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
    • Brad Richards: 0 $
    • Anthony Deangelo: 383 334 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    NYR
    BUF
    NYR
    LAK
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    2022
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    2023
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    NYR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $75 145 635 $0 $8 400 000 $6 354 365 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    NYR
    Lafrenière, Alexis
    925 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Zibanejad, Mika
    5 350 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Buchnevich, Pavel
    4 750 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA
    NYR
    Panarin, Artemi
    11 642 857 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    DET
    Larkin, Dylan
    6 100 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    NYR
    Kakko, Kaapo
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Kreider, Chris
    6 500 000 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    NYR
    Chytil, Filip
    2 750 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA
    Saad, Brandon
    4 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA
    NYR
    Rooney, Kevin
    750 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Barron, Morgan
    925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    VGK
    Reaves, Ryan
    1 750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Blackwell, Colin
    725 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    NYR
    Lindgren, Ryan
    3 250 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 3
    NYR
    Fox, Adam
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Shesterkin, Igor
    5 000 000 $
    G
    RFA
    NYR
    Miller, K'Andre
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Trouba, Jacob
    8 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    NYR
    Georgiev, Alexandar
    2 425 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    NYR
    Jones, Zachary
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    NYR
    Lundkvist, Nils
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    NYR
    Smith, Brendan
    1 000 000 $
    DG/DD, AG
    UFA
    Équipe de réserve
    NYR
    Kinkaid, Keith
    825 000 $ (0 $)
    G
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Bitetto, Anthony
    737 500 $ (0 $)
    DG
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Reunanen, Tarmo
    809 167 $ (0 $)
    DG
    RFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Panarin, A.
    Zibanejad, M.
    Kakko, K.
    Larkin, D.
    Fox, A.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Saad, B.
    Kreider, C.
    Lafrenière, A.
    Trouba, J.
    Buchnevich, P.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Zibanejad, M.
    Buchnevich, P.
    Lindgren, R.
    Fox, A.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Larkin, D.
    Kreider, C.
    Miller, K.
    Trouba, J.

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    6 mai à 21 h 27
    #1
    Rejoint: mai 2020
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    Larkin is staying in Detroit, no means no.
    NLidstrom, DeadWingsv2, Devil1122 and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
    6 mai à 21 h 28
    #2
    Rejoint: aoû 2020
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    Captain Larkin will retire a Red Wing, sorry
    DeadWingsv2, Devil1122 et aedoran a aimé ceci.
    6 mai à 21 h 49
    #3
    Rejoint: jan 2019
    Messages: 1,709
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    No chance in Hell the Rangers trade one of their hottest Defensive Prospects for a Goon entering a Contract year.
    6 mai à 21 h 55
    #4
    Jack Hughes is Elite
    Rejoint: nov 2017
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    Quoting: Shakabakes
    No chance in Hell the Rangers trade one of their hottest Defensive Prospects for a Goon entering a Contract year.


    This is why Rangers fans piss me off

    Red Wings decline this trade, not the Rangers.
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    6 mai à 22 h 13
    #5
    Rejoint: jan 2019
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    This is why Rangers fans piss me off

    Red Wings decline this trade, not the Rangers.


    You think I was talking about Larkin being a Goon?

    There is more than one Trade Proposal posted here.

    Maybe look at the one including Ryan Reaves (entering a Contract year, which Larkin isn't) of the GOLDEN KNIGHTS!!!

    Had nothing to do with Detroit.
    DoubleADoubleK a aimé ceci.
    6 mai à 22 h 38
    #6
    VGKNation702
    Rejoint: mai 2019
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    Quoting: Shakabakes
    No chance in Hell the Rangers trade one of their hottest Defensive Prospects for a Goon entering a Contract year.


    Nope sorry no trade backs
    aedoran et DoubleADoubleK a aimé ceci.
    6 mai à 23 h 08
    #7
    Rejoint: mai 2015
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    Quoting: Shakabakes
    No chance in Hell the Rangers trade one of their hottest Defensive Prospects for a Goon entering a Contract year.


    If history has taught me anything, it's that teams oddly over pay for reaves for reasons I don't understand. Hahaha
    Shakabakes et aedoran a aimé ceci.
    6 mai à 23 h 09
    #8
    Rejoint: mai 2015
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    You know what's crazy? Everyone constantly tries to trade Strome but he's actually been really good the last two years. Offensively better than Larkin. Given line mates and total career I'd obviously prefer Larkin but it's actually shocking how much Strome has produced the last two seasons and how little respect he gets.
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    6 mai à 23 h 13
    #9
    Rejoint: mai 2015
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    Larkin has 28 goals and 76 ponts in 115 GP the last two years
    Strome has 32 goals and 106 points in 125 GP

    Further Strome is 16th in scoring by a C in the last two years

    For comparison

    Barzal has 34 goals and 101 points in 121 gp
    aedoran et DoubleADoubleK a aimé ceci.
    6 mai à 23 h 15
    #10
    Rejoint: jun 2015
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    Probably good value for Larkin tbh.
    6 mai à 23 h 54
    #11
    Go Wings Go
    Rejoint: jun 2016
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    laugh laugh Larkin would get twice the return Mantha got, And sorry this isn't it slick. No freaking way Yzerman would accept this. Larkin would cost your top C prospect top D prospect and at least 2 1st round picks if not more.
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    7 mai à 3 h 20
    #12
    Rejoint: déc 2017
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    Quoting: BCAPP
    If history has taught me anything, it's that teams oddly over pay for reaves for reasons I don't understand. Hahaha


    Giving up that for Reaves at 34 isn't very bright because his age has caught up with him. A couple of years ago you have a 4th line enforcer who is putting double digits in points while playing around 10min a game. So putting up average to a little above average 4th line numbers and being a player that stops most players from doing stupid S*** is a somewhat valuable player. Not all enforcers can play on the 1st line and keep up let alone be in the top 5 on his team in scoring.

    Quoting: BCAPP
    Larkin has 28 goals and 76 ponts in 115 GP the last two years
    Strome has 32 goals and 106 points in 125 GP

    Further Strome is 16th in scoring by a C in the last two years

    For comparison

    Barzal has 34 goals and 101 points in 121 gp


    For what ever reason NYR fans want Strome gone but the odds of that happening with Panarin on the team are slim to none in my opinion. With Panarin out this season Strome was able to still produce which ups his value but he is still on a loaded team and he isn't Always playing against the other teams top defensive unit every night. Without Panarin the amount of time spent against the other teams top defensive unit was much at all. That's a luxury that Larkin doesn't have. While he did play mostly center at U of M, when he was The USNDTP he was a mostly a left wing playing on a line with Eichel and Matthews as his centers. He played mostly LW in his first 3 seasons in Detroit on Zetterberg's line. Larkin has a higher ppg than Strome. Larkin has only 2 seasons where he failed to hit 45 points and Strome has 4 (not counting Strome's first season where he spent as much time in the AHL as he did in the NHL). Choosing only the last 2 seasons to compare isn't really a fair comparison you picked the 2 seasons he was paired with arguably the best winger in the game. Since we are choosing the 2 seasons that best support your argument put them up against Larkin's 2017-18 and 2018-19 the 2 seasons where he had the most support.

    Honestly if you had the choice who do you pick Larkin or R. Strome?
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    7 mai à 5 h 52
    #13
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Giving up that for Reaves at 34 isn't very bright because his age has caught up with him. A couple of years ago you have a 4th line enforcer who is putting double digits in points while playing around 10min a game. So putting up average to a little above average 4th line numbers and being a player that stops most players from doing stupid S*** is a somewhat valuable player. Not all enforcers can play on the 1st line and keep up let alone be in the top 5 on his team in scoring.



    For what ever reason NYR fans want Strome gone but the odds of that happening with Panarin on the team are slim to none in my opinion. With Panarin out this season Strome was able to still produce which ups his value but he is still on a loaded team and he isn't Always playing against the other teams top defensive unit every night. Without Panarin the amount of time spent against the other teams top defensive unit was much at all. That's a luxury that Larkin doesn't have. While he did play mostly center at U of M, when he was The USNDTP he was a mostly a left wing playing on a line with Eichel and Matthews as his centers. He played mostly LW in his first 3 seasons in Detroit on Zetterberg's line. Larkin has a higher ppg than Strome. Larkin has only 2 seasons where he failed to hit 45 points and Strome has 4 (not counting Strome's first season where he spent as much time in the AHL as he did in the NHL). Choosing only the last 2 seasons to compare isn't really a fair comparison you picked the 2 seasons he was paired with arguably the best winger in the game. Since we are choosing the 2 seasons that best support your argument put them up against Larkin's 2017-18 and 2018-19 the 2 seasons where he had the most support.

    Honestly if you had the choice who do you pick Larkin or R. Strome?


    See my first comment above the one you quoted where I addressed all that and said I'd take Larkin.

    Just saying it's odd how Strome still isn't getting love even when he's produced with Panarin injured/absent.

    Also while I compared strokes best years to Larkins worse, the most recent seasons are also relevant. Is there a reason Larkins production is so poor recently? In particular he's only on a roughly half a point per game pace this year? That's well down on his normal production. Is that a cause for concern? I really don't watch any Detroit games with the weird divisions this year
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    7 mai à 7 h 30
    #14
    Rejoint: déc 2017
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    Quoting: BCAPP
    See my first comment above the one you quoted where I addressed all that and said I'd take Larkin.

    Just saying it's odd how Strome still isn't getting love even when he's produced with Panarin injured/absent.

    Also while I compared strokes best years to Larkins worse, the most recent seasons are also relevant. Is there a reason Larkins production is so poor recently? In particular he's only on a roughly half a point per game pace this year? That's well down on his normal production. Is that a cause for concern? I really don't watch any Detroit games with the weird divisions this year


    Ok Detroit has scored the fewest goals in the NHL and they finished last season with the fewest and as I said Larkin has had very little support. Bertuzzi played what 9 games this season and Mantha was in his on world most of the season and missed half of last season with a pneumothorax. I think Adam Erne being 2nd is goals for Detroit this season shows how little support Larkin has.
    BCAPP a aimé ceci.
    7 mai à 7 h 50
    #15
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Ok Detroit has scored the fewest goals in the NHL and they finished last season with the fewest and as I said Larkin has had very little support. Bertuzzi played what 9 games this season and Mantha was in his on world most of the season and missed half of last season with a pneumothorax. I think Adam Erne being 2nd is goals for Detroit this season shows how little support Larkin has.


    Makes sense. As I said, I haven't watched the games, was legitimately asking. So there is context for his poor production.
    7 mai à 7 h 51
    #16
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Ok Detroit has scored the fewest goals in the NHL and they finished last season with the fewest and as I said Larkin has had very little support. Bertuzzi played what 9 games this season and Mantha was in his on world most of the season and missed half of last season with a pneumothorax. I think Adam Erne being 2nd is goals for Detroit this season shows how little support Larkin has.


    Back to original point, not to compare to Larkin, but I legit don't get why Rangers fans still treat Strome like he's awful. I think they're having trouble seeing past his slow and tortured development
    7 mai à 11 h 26
    #17
    FoxCzarCup
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    Quoting: BCAPP
    Back to original point, not to compare to Larkin, but I legit don't get why Rangers fans still treat Strome like he's awful. I think they're having trouble seeing past his slow and tortured development


    You are right about all of the nay sayers, Strome can dish the puck w/wo Pan and deserves less hate. ALTHOUGH it's the non NYR fans that are behind the times here. WE are trading him because of future CAP, period. Heck, we could even keep him as our own rental for 1 more season..
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