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Créé par: AnyoneButTheBruins
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2021
Publié: 6 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Not saying all of these would happen just saying it would nice to see these trades/signings/picks be done. Contracts might be a bit off. I have a strong feeling Bertuzzi could get traded at the draft since Mantha was traded because he wasn't in our timeframe, so this is what I think he could get. I don't know if I would want him traded. Draft pick is assuming we win top 1 or 2.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
21 000 000 $
64 500 000 $
3800 000 $
2750 000 $
31 750 000 $
2850 000 $
1850 000 $
65 500 000 $
1750 000 $
31 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
14 000 000 $
1800 000 $
1750 000 $
12 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
1900 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Dunn, Vince
12 000 000 $
Power, Owen
3925 000 $
Texier, Alexandre
32 500 000 $
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DET
  1. Texier, Alexandre [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
2022 1st top 5 protected
Yzerman gets another steal?
CBJ
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
3.
DET
  1. DiPietro, Michael
  2. Eriksson, Loui
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
VAN
4.
DET
  1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
They can't keep him otherwise he's Seattle bait.
STL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DET)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
5.
DET
  1. Ladd, Andrew
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
NYI
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2981 500 000 $74 282 223 $0 $4 518 750 $7 217 777 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Texier, Alexandre
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance318 750 $$319K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Dunn, Vince
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 600 000 $3 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Power, Owen
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1

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6 mai 2021 à 1 h 38
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Sad seeing svechnikov seattled (alliteration!)

Heck yeah weaponizing cap space

I don't see CBJ doing that with their lack of ability to contend and the UFA driven instability facing their roster in the near future + how good the 22 draft is
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Sad seeing svechnikov seattled (alliteration!)

Heck yeah weaponizing cap space

I don't see CBJ doing that with their lack of ability to contend and the UFA driven instability facing their roster in the near future + how good the 22 draft is


I know it was quite challenging for me to find a suiter for Bertuzzi that also could fit what his cap would be and give us the value for him that wasn't late 1sts + whatever (Hence the remark of another Yzerman steal haha) I do like evrything else though. If CBJ traded Texier away they'd be nuts I know.
6 mai 2021 à 2 h 28
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Sad seeing svechnikov seattled (alliteration!)

Heck yeah weaponizing cap space

I don't see CBJ doing that with their lack of ability to contend and the UFA driven instability facing their roster in the near future + how good the 22 draft is


Oh this is also anticipating Laine leaves so they will need a LW and they get a ton for Laine so they can give up some picks.
6 mai 2021 à 2 h 29
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Thanks for your input, but what would you give to rid yourself of Eriksson?
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Quoting: AnyoneButTheBruins
Thanks for your input, but what would you give to rid yourself of Eriksson?


i'd more so look at 22 2nd anything over that no really interested in and rather just ride the final year out
6 mai 2021 à 3 h 53
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Quoting: Radu47
Sad seeing svechnikov seattled (alliteration!)

Heck yeah weaponizing cap space

I don't see CBJ doing that with their lack of ability to contend and the UFA driven instability facing their roster in the near future + how good the 22 draft is


I agree and I would rather lose Namestnikov or Lindstrom to Seattle
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i'd more so look at 22 2nd anything over that no really interested in and rather just ride the final year out


I'd take that trade too I just like the fact of getting Dipietro and VAN doesn't really need him since they got a solid young goalie in Demko, but your trade or mine I'd take. Also, I don't know if you can really ride his contract out unless those two big contracts you have coming up aren't so big.
6 mai 2021 à 3 h 57
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I agree and I would rather lose Namestnikov or Lindstrom to Seattle


Same but I think they will take Svech because for the last FW spot for me it's between him and Erne for me. Lindstrom? Who are you protecting that's not Stecher, Dunn, Hronek in this situation. I guess with my scenerio we would lose Cholowski which would suck.
6 mai 2021 à 4 h 51
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That Dunn offer is a joke.
6 mai 2021 à 4 h 59
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That Dunn offer is a joke.


You're gonna lose him for nothing then.
6 mai 2021 à 5 h 3
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So dunn costs more, a 2nd and a prospect probably. Columbus needs centers not wingers so I wouldnt hold my breath they overpay for bertuzzi, plus theyre roster is about to self destruct. I hate the idea of ericsson but for dipietro I'll live with it. Ladd is probably a no , they just don't seem open to taking dead cap.
6 mai 2021 à 5 h 19
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So dunn costs more, a 2nd and a prospect probably. Columbus needs centers not wingers so I wouldnt hold my breath they overpay for bertuzzi, plus theyre roster is about to self destruct. I hate the idea of ericsson but for dipietro I'll live with it. Ladd is probably a no , they just don't seem open to taking dead cap.


There aren't many teams that can take Dunn since Seattle will snatch him so his trade value is going to be down quite a bit.
6 mai 2021 à 5 h 21
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You're gonna lose him for nothing then.


Parayko, Dunn, Krug. StL hopes Seattle takes Faulk...
6 mai 2021 à 5 h 28
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You're gonna lose him for nothing then.



There's 30 other teams, bro. You're not the only shop in town. And if I had my way, they'd expose/trade Krug instead of Dunn.
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There aren't many teams that can take Dunn since Seattle will snatch him so his trade value is going to be down quite a bit.


This makes no sense.
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There's 30 other teams, bro. You're not the only shop in town. And if I had my way, they'd expose/trade Krug instead of Dunn.


Max he's gonna rake in is a 2nd
6 mai 2021 à 5 h 29
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Parayko, Dunn, Krug. StL hopes Seattle takes Faulk...



Krug would be exposed waaaay before Faulk.
6 mai 2021 à 5 h 30
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Max he's gonna rake in is a 2nd



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6 mai 2021 à 5 h 33
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There's 30 other teams, bro. You're not the only shop in town. And if I had my way, they'd expose/trade Krug instead of Dunn.


Many of those 30 teams can't take him because of cap restraints and they have 3 better D men than Dunn so those are out.
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Mmmnokaythen.


Okay then what do you think he's worth?
6 mai 2021 à 5 h 43
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There aren't many teams that can take Dunn since Seattle will snatch him so his trade value is going to be down quite a bit.


Oh I know thier isn't a huge market but they still won't give him away they have other options. Don't get me wrong I like the player and id love him here.
6 mai 2021 à 5 h 59
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Many of those 30 teams can't take him because of cap restraints and they have 3 better D men than Dunn so those are out.


Dunn is hardly so expensive that teams can't find a way to fit him in. And the list of teams with three more valuable D-men than Dunn is not so long as you seem to think.

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Okay then what do you think he's worth?


Low-ish 1st or decent 2nd w/ decent RD/LW prospect is what they'd be looking for. Most folks will agree that his where his value lies.
6 mai 2021 à 12 h 33
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No way cbj does that deal. Tex. A young center who looks like a potential top 6 guy plus a first for Tyler bertuzzi. Mind you Columbus is A. Looking for centers. And B. Retooling. Why even consider it?
6 mai 2021 à 12 h 56
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Just generally speaking, the "might as well, gonna lose him for nothing in expansion" argument is flawed. Seattle is taking someone no matter what. So if you get a lousy return for Dunn, you still lose a different player to expansion. The question becomes, is getting a 3rd and a 4th worth losing Dunn AND, say, Blais or Barbashev or Walman? If they really can't get a reasonable offer for Dunn, and they do expose him, that is probably a better situation than getting a 3rd + 4th and losing an additional affordable NHLer.

Now specifically in Dunn's case, the Blues would be dumb to get a crap return for him when they can simply leave Faulk unprotected and play chicken with Seattle. Which of Faulk's seasons do they consider the outlier? If the Blues were to lose Faulk, are they better off with the long-term cap flexibility? I'd say that Faulk lived up to his contract this year, but I'm not expecting him to perform at that level for 6 more years (and Seattle probably isn't either).

All of this might be moot because I think there are a ton of other teams that could use a protection spot on Dunn and could give up better assets: NJD, ANA, NYR, WPG, VAN, VGK (exempt from XD) etc.
 
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