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Roster shake up

Créé par: CaptainRielly
Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 5 mai 2021
Publié: 5 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Edvidsson, Simon
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PHI
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (FLA)
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CGY
LAK
  1. Giordano, Mark
Détails additionnels:
Seattle
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CGY
  1. Laine, Patrik [Droits de RFA]
CBJ
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
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5 mai 2021 à 22 h 47
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Laine would not work under Sutter and there is a Seattle option forbthe expansion draft
5 mai 2021 à 22 h 50
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I kind of don't want to pursue a Monahan acquisition unless we're getting him for, like super cheap. We really need a defensive-minded playmaker center and Monahan is only one of those three things.
5 mai 2021 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Laine would not work under Sutter and there is a Seattle option forbthe expansion draft


And he has to be signed to like a 7.5 million deal per year
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5 mai 2021 à 23 h 8
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Flames decline both because gaudreau is worth a lot more and laine wouldn’t work well with sutter at all
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5 mai 2021 à 23 h 42
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Laine would be pretty average since the Flames really don't have centres that can feed him. IMO Flames have to need a be much better at centre.
6 mai 2021 à 1 h 48
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Quoting: flamesfan
Flames decline both because gaudreau is worth a lot more and laine wouldn’t work well with sutter at all


Given his UFA-2 status Gaudreau is worth like 1/2 of Konecny at UFA-4 and may start declining given his relative nearness to 30 while Konecny is in prime
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6 mai 2021 à 2 h 14
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Given his UFA-2 status Gaudreau is worth like 1/2 of Konecny at UFA-4 and may start declining given his relative nearness to 30 while Konecny is in prime



Konecny has only ever got more than 50 points once gaudreau has never had less than 58 points. So gaudreau is way more valuable
6 mai 2021 à 8 h 43
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Modifié 6 mai 2021 à 10 h 1. Raison: corrected error
Quoting: flamesfan
Konecny has only ever got more than 50 points once gaudreau has never had less than 58 points. So gaudreau is way more valuable


Your opinion might have merit if they each had one year left on their contracts, although the fact that their 2021 seasons are very similar and their age difference might argue different. But Gaudreau is a one-year rental and Konecny has four years left on his current contract, so Gaudreau is worth considerably less. (This trade would be an AWFUL idea for Calgary (* late edit: meant PHILADELPHIA) without even factoring in the wild card of Nolan Patrick.)
6 mai 2021 à 8 h 47
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Quoting: Radu47
Given his UFA-2 status Gaudreau is worth like 1/2 of Konecny at UFA-4 and may start declining given his relative nearness to 30 while Konecny is in prime


Aside from the fact that Gaudreau has only one year left on his contract, not two, this comment is the usually knowledgeable and insightful post I have come to expect from you. Which makes the wildly erroneous comment you made on the contemporaneous John-Gibson-to-Edmonton construction all the more shocking.
6 mai 2021 à 9 h 51
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Your opinion might have merit if they each had one year left on their contracts, although the fact that their 2021 seasons are very similar and their age difference might argue different. But Gaudreau is a one-year rental and Konecny has four years left on his current contract, so Gaudreau is worth considerably less. (This trade would be an AWFUL idea for Calgary without even factoring in the wild card of Nolan Patrick.)


Why an awful idea for Calgary? I think Konecny is the better player for what Calgary wants to do, I am in the camp of re signing Gaudreau but if you can add a high end RW in Konecny that is cost controlled and a middle 6 C or middle 6 RW at worst in Patrick then it makes the Flames better.

Personally I think at this point the Flames move on from one of their top line LW for either a 1C or a 1RW, Tkachuk's contract that is coming up won't be an easy fix and if Gaudreau is re signing long term I don't think it's out to lunch to see Tkachuk moved.
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6 mai 2021 à 10 h 0
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Why an awful idea for Calgary? I think Konecny is the better player for what Calgary wants to do, I am in the camp of re signing Gaudreau but if you can add a high end RW in Konecny that is cost controlled and a middle 6 C or middle 6 RW at worst in Patrick then it makes the Flames better.

Personally I think at this point the Flames move on from one of their top line LW for either a 1C or a 1RW, Tkachuk's contract that is coming up won't be an easy fix and if Gaudreau is re signing long term I don't think it's out to lunch to see Tkachuk moved.


You're absolutely right. I meant an AWFUL deal for PHILADELPHIA. My fingers didn't type what I was thinking. And I didn't proofread carefully before sending.
6 mai 2021 à 10 h 26
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You're absolutely right. I meant an AWFUL deal for PHILADELPHIA. My fingers didn't type what I was thinking. And I didn't proofread carefully before sending.


Hahaha, I figured as much! This deal would be a game changer for the Flames and certainly welcomed by me
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6 mai 2021 à 10 h 32
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Hahaha, I figured as much! This deal would be a game changer for the Flames and certainly welcomed by me


Yeah, senior moment. They're embarrassing, but I guess I'll have to get used to them. I suppose it's only a matter of time until I leave my car keys in the refrigerator.

By the way, and for your information so you'll learn to be forgiving of us old folks, the reason why so many of us talk to ourselves out loud is to remind ourselves what we're in the middle of doing.
6 mai 2021 à 10 h 35
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Yeah, senior moment. They're embarrassing, but I guess I'll have to get used to them. I suppose it's only a matter of time until I leave my car keys in the refrigerator.

By the way, and for your information so you'll learn to be forgiving of us old folks, the reason why so many of us talk to ourselves out loud is to remind ourselves what we're in the middle of doing.


I got all the time in the world to listen to an older person with an opinion, I may not always like it but someone that's been on this earth twice as long as I have always has something worth listening to!

Have a good one pal!
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