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Garland for Debrusk

Créé par: kscoop
Date de création initiale: mai 5, 2021
Publié: 5 mai à 15 h 01
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
Explications
Seattle takes Moore and receive Steen. A good get for an expansion team. Debrusk for Garland seems fair especially if Garland decides to hold out. Signed Garland on a 3 year deal at 3.5 making him a UFA at end of contract, hence why the aav is a tad low.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Carlo, Brandon64 250 000 $
Garland, Conor33 500 000 $
Ritchie, Nick33 250 000 $
Frederic, Trent2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Hall, Taylor46 000 000 $
Krejci, David15 500 000 $
Miller, Kevan12 000 000 $
Rask, Tuukka24 750 000 $
Reilly, Mike32 500 000 $
Transactions
BOS
    SEA
    1. Moore, John
    2. Steen, Oskar
    Détails additionnels:
    Send Steen to Seattle in a side deal to take Moore
    BOS
    1. Garland, Conor [Droits de RFA]
    ARI
    1. DeBrusk, Jake
    BOS
    1. 2022 3e round pick (TOR)
    CGY
    1. Kase, Ondrej [Droits de RFA]
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    TOR
    2022
    BOS
    BOS
    TOR
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    2023
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    BOS
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2481 500 000 $77 362 556 $964 222 $182 500 $4 137 444 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    BOS
    Marchand, Brad
    6 125 000 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    BOS
    Bergeron, Patrice
    6 875 000 $
    C
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    BOS
    Pastrnak, David
    6 666 667 $
    AD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    BOS
    Hall, Taylor
    6 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA
    BOS
    Krejci, David
    5 500 000 $
    C
    UFA
    Garland, Conor
    3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA
    BOS
    Ritchie, Nick
    3 250 000 $
    AG
    RFA
    BOS
    Coyle, Charlie
    5 250 000 $
    C, AD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 5
    BOS
    Smith, Craig
    3 100 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 2
    BOS
    Frederic, Trent
    900 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA
    BOS
    Studnicka, Jack
    769 167 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Lazar, Curtis
    800 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    BOS
    Wagner, Chris
    1 350 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 2
    BOS
    Kuhlman, Karson
    725 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    BOS
    Lauzon, Jérémy
    850 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    McAvoy, Charlie
    4 900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Swayman, Jeremy
    925 000 $
    G
    RFA - 2
    BOS
    Grzelcyk, Matt
    3 687 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    BOS
    Carlo, Brandon
    4 250 000 $
    DD
    RFA
    BOS
    Rask, Tuukka
    4 750 000 $
    G
    UFA
    BOS
    Reilly, Mike
    2 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA
    BOS
    Miller, Kevan
    2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    BOS
    Zboril, Jakub
    725 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Clifton, Connor
    1 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2

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    5 mai à 15 h 05
    #1
    Jack Hughes is Elite
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    And why would the Coyotes do that?
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    5 mai à 15 h 06
    #2
    Weegar for Norris
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    Garland: 33 points 46 games
    DeBrusk: 11 points 37 games
    ??
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    5 mai à 15 h 08
    #3
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    And why would the Coyotes do that?


    While Debrusk hasn't been good this year, Garland hasn't set the world on fire. I also mentioned 'if' Garland holds out and doesn't want to sign. Getting a player back that has scored 27 in a season and has the ability to be a perennial 25 goal scorer isn't a bad return.
    5 mai à 15 h 09
    #4
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    Oh straight up you mean

    Golly

    😐

    Garland is like 1.5x as good though

    Not even Vladar etc. along with DeBrusk?
    5 mai à 15 h 10
    #5
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    Quoting: VijayPatel11
    Garland: 33 points 46 games
    DeBrusk: 11 points 37 games
    ??


    Thanks. Debrusk having an off year. Doesn't get any PP time. However, if you think Debrusk isn't good I don't know what to tell you. You probably thought Hall stunk also.... Change of scenery and more ice time would do wonders for Debrusk.
    5 mai à 15 h 12
    #6
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Oh straight up you mean

    Golly

    😐

    Garland is like 1.5x as good though

    Not even Vladar etc. along with DeBrusk?


    Go ahead and include Vladar.
    5 mai à 15 h 18
    #7
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    Quoting: kscoop
    While Debrusk hasn't been good this year, Garland hasn't set the world on fire. I also mentioned 'if' Garland holds out and doesn't want to sign. Getting a player back that has scored 27 in a season and has the ability to be a perennial 25 goal scorer isn't a bad return.


    ?

    Garland has ~ 2x as many primary pts as DeB has pts

    Please read that sentence again

    Aside his typical elite possession numbers 💯

    He set the world on fire the first half of the season as an absolutely electric catalyst and by far drove the line consisting of two other very good players like, wow

    I see the next 5 years of him as Ehlers esque

    Debrusk might well stagnate as a Kerfoot level W
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    5 mai à 15 h 25
    #8
    Work smart, not hard
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    If I'm Seattle I'm easily taking Lauzon over Moore+Steen.

    And ARI will easily decline that trade. No team is trading a top-6 asset for a mid-6 asset.
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    5 mai à 15 h 25
    #9
    First NY Then LA
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    Quoting: kscoop
    Thanks. Debrusk having an off year. Doesn't get any PP time. However, if you think Debrusk isn't good I don't know what to tell you. You probably thought Hall stunk also.... Change of scenery and more ice time would do wonders for Debrusk.


    A change of scenery from Buffalo to Boston is a universe apart from a change of scenery from Boston to Arizona. You can expect players to perform better when going to a better team, and less well when going to a lesser team.
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    5 mai à 15 h 26
    #10
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    The problem with trading debrusk right now is you’re not going to get anywhere close to fair value for him? Think you’re going to get 27 goal in 68 game value for debrusk? Well, you’re not, he just put up a stinker of a season, and other GMs were watching. That’s why i just don’t think it makes any sense to trade debrusk this off season. His upside is so much higher than his trade value.
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    5 mai à 15 h 27
    #11
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    If I'm Seattle I'm easily taking Lauzon over Moore+Steen.

    And ARI will easily decline that trade. No team is trading a top-6 asset for a mid-6 asset.


    Hell, I'd prefer Frederic or Clifton or even Zboril to Moore + Steen. I think it would take Beecher or Lauko to sweeten that pill sufficiently.
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    5 mai à 15 h 28
    #12
    Work smart, not hard
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Hell, I'd prefer Frederic or Clifton or even Zboril to Moore + Steen. I think it would take Beecher or Lauko to sweeten that pill sufficiently.


    Easily. There's over 5 players available for SEA to pick from BOS that are more enticing than a Moore+Steen package.
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    5 mai à 15 h 29
    #13
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Hell, I'd prefer Frederic or Clifton or even Zboril to Moore + Steen. I think it would take Beecher or Lauko to sweeten that pill sufficiently.


    Seriously. Offering up an asset with less value than what they could just pick in the draft to take a bad contract. Wacky.
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    5 mai à 15 h 30
    #14
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    Quoting: kscoop
    While Debrusk hasn't been good this year, Garland hasn't set the world on fire. I also mentioned 'if' Garland holds out and doesn't want to sign. Getting a player back that has scored 27 in a season and has the ability to be a perennial 25 goal scorer isn't a bad return.


    He would 'hold out' in Arz but sign 3x3.5 in Boston???
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    5 mai à 15 h 34
    #15
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    Quoting: Riley816
    He would 'hold out' in Arz but sign 3x3.5 in Boston???


    The logic is going to be that he’s from boston and still lives in mass in the off season, but you’re right, he doesn’t sign that. Pretty player friendly term to get him to UFA though i suppose.
    5 mai à 16 h 07
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    I don't think Debrusk has nearly the value as Garland.
    Would take considerably more from Bruins.
    8 mai à 8 h 46
    #17
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    Quoting: kscoop
    While Debrusk hasn't been good this year, Garland hasn't set the world on fire. I also mentioned 'if' Garland holds out and doesn't want to sign. Getting a player back that has scored 27 in a season and has the ability to be a perennial 25 goal scorer isn't a bad return.


    I mean it would make sense, but they could easily ask for a 2nd or even a first in addition to DeBrusk.
     
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