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If Shea Weber retires and Price gone

Créé par: meno9305
Date de création initiale: mai 5, 2021
Publié: 5 mai à 13 h 17
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël3800 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi22 800 000 $
Lehkonen, Artturi11 100 000 $
Poehling, Ryan2945 000 $
Leskinen, Otto1825 000 $
Pezzetta, Michael1800 000 $
Blandisi, Joseph1875 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Danault, Phillip45 250 000 $
Belzile, Alex1800 000 $
Weal, Jordan1850 000 $
Wedgewood, Scott1900 000 $
Ceci, Cody33 000 000 $
Armia, Joel23 000 000 $
Chiasson, Alex22 300 000 $
Transactions
MTL
    NSH
    1. Weber, Shea
    Détails additionnels:
    retires, plus since Nashville signed his actual contract, they are the ones who gona pay the remaining years if he retires.
    MTL
      take him pls...
      SEA
      1. Price, Carey (5 000 000 $ retained)
      2. 2022 1e round pick (MTL)
      Détails additionnels:
      Rumors he would wants to play near BC, there ya go.
      Doesnt mean he wants it fr, dont cry in the comments
      MTL
      1. Nurse, Darnell
      2. Turris, Kyle
      3. 2023 4e round pick (EDM)
      Détails additionnels:
      Rumors: He wants like 7,5m-8m and EDM dont know if theyre willing to pay. We can.
      EDM
      1. Drouin, Jonathan
      2. Chiarot, Ben
      3. Harris, Jordan [Liste de réserve]
      4. 2023 3e round pick (MTL)
      MTL
      1. Rakell, Rickard
      ANA
      1. Poehling, Ryan
      2. Fleury, Cale [Droits de RFA]
      3. 2023 2e round pick (MTL)
      4. 2023 4e round pick (MTL)
      Rachats de contrats
      • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      • Carey Price: 5 000 000 $ (47.62%)
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      2021
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      MTL
      TBL
      CHI
      WSH
      MTL
      STL
      VGK
      PHI
      MTL
      MTL
      2022
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      2023
      MTL
      EDM
      MTL
      MTL
      MTL
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2581 500 000 $76 877 004 $597 561 $1 475 000 $4 622 996 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      MTL
      Toffoli, Tyler
      4 250 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      MTL
      Suzuki, Nick
      863 333 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Anderson, Josh
      5 500 000 $
      AD
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      ANA
      Rakell, Rickard
      3 789 444 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      MTL
      Danault, Phillip
      5 250 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      MTL
      Gallagher, Brendan
      6 500 000 $
      AD
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 6
      MTL
      Byron, Paul
      3 400 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      MTL
      Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
      2 800 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Caufield, Cole
      880 833 $
      AD, C
      RFA - 2
      MTL
      Lehkonen, Artturi
      1 100 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Evans, Jake
      750 000 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Armia, Joel
      3 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 4
      EDM
      Turris, Kyle
      1 650 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      Chiasson, Alex
      2 300 000 $
      AD
      UFA
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      MTL
      Edmundson, Joel
      3 500 000 $
      DG
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      MTL
      Petry, Jeff
      6 250 000 $
      DD
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 4
      MTL
      Allen, Jake
      2 875 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      EDM
      Nurse, Darnell
      5 600 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      MTL
      Romanov, Alexander
      894 167 $
      DG/DD
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Primeau, Cayden
      880 833 $
      G
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Kulak, Brett
      1 850 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Ceci, Cody
      3 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 4
      Wedgewood, Scott
      900 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      MTL
      Ouellet, Xavier
      737 500 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      MTL
      Belzile, Alex
      800 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA - 1

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      5 mai à 13 h 18
      #1
      Crazy
      Rejoint: nov 2018
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      MTL would still suffer some cap penalty if Weber retires

      Edit: NSH would take more however
      5 mai à 13 h 20
      #2
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      Magically clear up that much cap space and this is the best you can come up with? Not even gonna get a starting goalie?
      habsfan00 a aimé ceci.
      5 mai à 13 h 22
      #3
      Habs fan
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      Quoting: SociallyHawkward
      Magically clear up that much cap space and this is the best you can come up with? Not even gonna get a starting goalie?


      I think Primeau and Allen can split net evenly and be a good enough tandem. I'm more concerned about the Nurse trade - I'd love Nurse in MTL but this looks bad for EDM imo.
      A_Habs_fan a aimé ceci.
      5 mai à 13 h 23
      #4
      Rejoint: mai 2019
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      Weber won't retire when he still makes $6m next year. I don't think it will be a consideration until his final 3 years (two seasons from now).
      palhal et nativewulf a aimé ceci.
      5 mai à 13 h 25
      #5
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      Meno9305
      Rejoint: déc 2018
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      Quoting: SociallyHawkward
      Magically clear up that much cap space and this is the best you can come up with? Not even gonna get a starting goalie?


      have you watched the Habs this season? allen and primeau can get the job done. Plus, cant sign a goalie for 5-6 years cuz primeau is the future number 1
      A_Habs_fan et Tarlam01 a aimé ceci.
      5 mai à 13 h 26
      #6
      oilsince95
      Rejoint: jun 2016
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      Absolutely not. Nurse is now a bonafide #1. No other Oilers' D will require a contract over 6 mil any time soon (if Barrie wants that, the Oil should be letting him go chase money elsewhere). Before his breakout this season I was worried Nurse would get more than say 7 mil. Now, I see 8mil as absolute fair value, especially with so many ELC's likely to feature during Nurse's big contract in support (Bouchard, Broberg, Samorukov etc.), and Klef still really cheap if he comes back (or off the books totally in LTIR).

      What the Oil wouldn't be able to afford is tying up 9 mil in Drouin and Chiarot. Why does that make any sense if the suggestion is that Nurse at less than that combined total is "too expensive"?
      5 mai à 13 h 27
      #7
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      Meno9305
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      Quoting: villenash
      Weber won't retire when he still makes $6m next year. I don't think it will be a consideration until his final 3 years (two seasons from now).


      He prob wont retires, but theres been rumours of it for quite sometimes. I think from a guy in TSN
      5 mai à 13 h 28
      #8
      v5 CBJ GM
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      I can't see us retaining 5 mil for 5 years on Price's contract, no team has even retained on long term deals for that much for obvious reasons. Also Nurse is worth more and Lehkonen will get more money while Ceci probably gets less
      5 mai à 13 h 29
      #9
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      Meno9305
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      5 mai à 13 h 33
      #10
      The other ones Drai
      Rejoint: avr 2019
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      EDM doesnt accept that at all
      And if you get him anyways at least play him as your #1
      5 mai à 13 h 38
      #11
      DmitryCoolikovinsta
      Rejoint: nov 2020
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      Oilers block MTL gms number.
      5 mai à 13 h 39
      #12
      LongtimeLeafsufferer
      Rejoint: jui 2015
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      Doesn't really matter what Nurse wants. Oilers will be very happy just to keep for one year, rather than take on the multi year cap of 9m for both Drouin and Chariot. Take Drouin out of the trade, and the Oilers like the trade proposal a lot better.
      5 mai à 13 h 44
      #13
      Boi
      Rejoint: fév 2020
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      If Weber retires both MTL and NSH suffer severe cap penalty’s, look at VAN and FLA for example with luongo
      5 mai à 14 h 09
      #14
      Rejoint: avr 2019
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      Quoting: meno9305
      have you watched the Habs this season? allen and primeau can get the job done. Plus, cant sign a goalie for 5-6 years cuz primeau is the future number 1


      Have you not watched the blues every season Allen was there? He's a really good backup but his numbers aren't good when he's the starter.
      5 mai à 14 h 12
      #15
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      Why would Weber retire and why would price be gone?
      5 mai à 14 h 34
      #16
      Mark
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      Quoting: Bigboi69
      If Weber retires both MTL and NSH suffer severe cap penalty’s, look at VAN and FLA for example with luongo


      I believe , though I could be wrong, but I believe that the cap recapture pentalty was a big part of the original Subban:Weber deal. The Canadiens' did not want to be on the hook for that penalty. Again, I could be wrong. Each trade is unique: I feel as though the Luongo trade structure was different, and that is why both teams were pentalized. Again: I could be wrong.

      No matter what, this is a moot point, as Weber is a gamer and he's probably not retiring until 22/23 (when is actual salary is $3 million) or 23/24 (when is actual salary is $1 million).
      5 mai à 14 h 36
      #17
      Mark
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      Quoting: markmws
      I believe , though I could be wrong, but I believe that the cap recapture pentalty was a big part of the original Subban:Weber deal. The Canadiens' did not want to be on the hook for that penalty. Again, I could be wrong. Each trade is unique: I feel as though the Luongo trade structure was different, and that is why both teams were pentalized. Again: I could be wrong.

      No matter what, this is a moot point, as Weber is a gamer and he's probably not retiring until 22/23 (when is actual salary is $3 million) or 23/24 (when is actual salary is $1 million).


      Now, those years - 22/23 and 23/24 could potentially be seasons where I could see the Canadiens trading him to a team who could take on his cap. However, their cannot still be a flat-cap for that to happen (i.e. the salary cap has to rise significantly).
       
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