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Better

Créé par: Wingsfan20
Date de création initiale: mai 5, 2021
Publié: 5 mai à 3 h 33
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Vrána, Jakub55 000 000 $
Hronek, Filip24 250 000 $
Rasmussen, Michael2950 000 $
Bertuzzi, Tyler14 000 000 $
Svechnikov, Evgeny1950 000 $
Erne, Adam21 250 000 $
Dunn, Vince23 000 000 $
Frederic, Trent2925 000 $
Smith, Givani1850 000 $
Lindström, Gustav1850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan23 250 000 $
Ryan, Bobby11 000 000 $
Montour, Brandon44 000 000 $
Hutton, Ben1950 000 $
Transactions
DET
  1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
STL
  1. McIsaac, Jared
  2. 2021 2e round pick (NYR)
DET
  1. Werenski, Zachary
CBJ
  1. Rasmussen, Michael
  2. Cholowski, Dennis [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2021 1e round pick (WSH)
DET
  1. Frederic, Trent [Droits de RFA]
BOS
  1. 2022 5e round pick (DET)
DET
    SEA
    1. Lindström, Gustav
    Rachats de contrats
    • Justin Abdelkader: 2 305 556 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Richard Pánik: 1 375 000 $ (50%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    DET
    DET
    EDM
    DET
    VGK
    DET
    TBL
    DET
    OTT
    DET
    2022
    DET
    DET
    WSH
    DET
    DET
    COL
    VGK
    DET
    DET
    2023
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    DET
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2481 500 000 $68 732 223 $0 $2 018 750 $12 767 777 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    DET
    Vrána, Jakub
    5 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 3
    DET
    Larkin, Dylan
    6 100 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Bertuzzi, Tyler
    4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Zadina, Filip
    894 167 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    DET
    Fabbri, Robby
    2 950 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Ryan, Bobby
    1 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA
    DET
    Svechnikov, Evgeny
    950 000 $
    AG
    UFA
    DET
    Veleno, Joseph
    894 167 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Namestnikov, Vladislav
    2 000 000 $
    AD, AG, C
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Erne, Adam
    1 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Frederic, Trent
    925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Pánik, Richard
    1 375 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    DET
    Smith, Givani
    850 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Nielsen, Frans
    5 250 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    CBJ
    Werenski, Zachary
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Hronek, Filip
    4 250 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    DET
    Bernier, Jonathan
    3 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Dunn, Vince
    3 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    DET
    Seider, Moritz
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    DET
    Greiss, Thomas
    3 600 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Montour, Brandon
    4 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    DET
    Stecher, Troy
    1 700 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    DET
    DeKeyser, Danny
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Hutton, Ben
    950 000 $
    DG
    UFA

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    5 mai à 4 h 30
    #1
    mokumboi
    Rejoint: avr 2019
    Messages: 8,734
    Mentions "j'aime": 2,679
    If he wasn't potentially damaged goods, the Blues might be interested in that. As is, probably not.
    5 mai à 6 h 17
    #2
    Bruins fan
    Rejoint: déc 2020
    Messages: 917
    Mentions "j'aime": 191
    Laughable offer for freddy
    mokumboi, Bruins1054_gmb, FourthLiner and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
    5 mai à 6 h 45
    #3
    The Darkest Timeline
    Rejoint: fév 2018
    Messages: 8,837
    Mentions "j'aime": 3,963
    Sure I'll take Dunn, a deal for him is doable. Werenski would cost a ton. Frederic is fine, tough checking young guy but you can sign a guy for that role without giving up a pick. Taking advantage of teams befor the exp draft should be a priority.
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    5 mai à 6 h 58
    #4
    Rejoint: mai 2016
    Messages: 8,641
    Mentions "j'aime": 3,322
    Well keep Frederic if that's your offer
    5 mai à 7 h 43
    #5
    Rejoint: sep 2020
    Messages: 423
    Mentions "j'aime": 102
    "Better" because you're fleecing other teams in these trades. Werenski would cost you multiple 1sts and Frederic is a former 1st rounder.
    FourthLiner et Viqsi a aimé ceci.
    5 mai à 8 h 37
    #6
    Rejoint: avr 2021
    Messages: 5,791
    Mentions "j'aime": 2,008
    Modifié 5 mai à 9 h 58
    So do you know who Frederic is? Bruins took him in the first round and he’s performing well in the NHL
    FourthLiner et RedWing9119 a aimé ceci.
    5 mai à 8 h 43
    #7
    Rejoint: jan 2017
    Messages: 13,000
    Mentions "j'aime": 5,139
    Lol, what a terrible offer.

    I can do it too, see.

    Counter offer: 4th for Zadina.
    FourthLiner et RedWing9119 a aimé ceci.
    5 mai à 9 h 56
    #8
    Banni
    Rejoint: avr 2021
    Messages: 105
    Mentions "j'aime": 25
    Quoting: Jfstompers
    Sure I'll take Dunn, a deal for him is doable. Werenski would cost a ton. Frederic is fine, tough checking young guy but you can sign a guy for that role without giving up a pick. Taking advantage of teams befor the exp draft should be a priority.


    This isnt a proper response lmao
    it sounds like ur saying they shouldnt do that trade, that would be a steal
    5 mai à 10 h 31
    #9
    Rejoint: fév 2016
    Messages: 3,930
    Mentions "j'aime": 915
    Werenski isn't available unless we're getting a bona-fide similarly-aged #1C back, and the closest Detroit has to someone like that is Larkin who obviously isn't going anywhere, so...
    5 mai à 10 h 32
    #10
    Rejoint: déc 2017
    Messages: 12,578
    Mentions "j'aime": 5,767
    That isn't even close for Werenski. This is Frederic's first full season in the NHL and since he was a 1st rd pick in 2016 its to soon to trade him. The Wings are still think Cholowski can make it and he is in the same draft class. I'm not sure why you'd trade for Frederic in the first place with Bertuzzi, Zadina, Vrana, Fabbri, and even Svechnikov had more points than Frederic in half the games. Plus Berrgren had a great season in the SHL he was in the top 10 in scoring and has a very good chance making the team out of camp. Detroit also has Raymond who we probably won't see until the end of the season but it is likely Detroit resigns Ryan who also had more points is less games than Frederic as well. Now Frederic could turn in to a great player but Detroit really doesn't need another winger especially with big holes at center and LD. Fabbri at center he had his shot and he just isn't an NHL center. At this point with both shoulders repaired and McIsaac skating again I'd hold off on that trade and save the pick. Detroit won't be a playoff team next season so why give up 2 assets for one player. Thinking you can speed up a rebuild by trading multiple assets for veteran players is what puts you into the never ending rebuild. Two things Yzerman mentions in every interview he does: Patience and getting more draft picks.
    5 mai à 10 h 37
    #11
    The Darkest Timeline
    Rejoint: fév 2018
    Messages: 8,837
    Mentions "j'aime": 3,963
    Quoting: FourthLiner
    This isnt a proper response lmao
    it sounds like ur saying they shouldnt do that trade, that would be a steal


    Ok they should do all of these trades but columbus and Boston decline. St louis may decline but I think its close enough that you could work something out.
    RedWing9119 a aimé ceci.
    5 mai à 12 h 15
    #12
    Rejoint: mai 2016
    Messages: 328
    Mentions "j'aime": 81
    I am thinking that if there is mutual interest between Detroit in Werenski they are more then likely to wait for him to hit UFA in 2 years, assuming he only signs a 1 year extension with Columbus after next season. If Detroit was to trade for him it would cost far more. Probably our 2021 1st, a high end prospect not names seider or raymond and a roster player.
     
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