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Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 4 mai 2021
Publié: 4 mai 2021
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just here me out its most likely that franky will not be in playoff, so what im thinking is we trade him for samsonov in the offseason so we get some young goaltending even tho we werner jojo and miska samsonov with the right team can be a franchise goalie.


say we do resign dub for one more season or someone else that detail is not important but say we have samsonov and dub play every other game as backup say we dont play grub as much and if he gets hurt bam.


please no hate just a thought if you have other ideas put them down below i would like to take about them
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dont know how much he is worth dont get mad because i underpayed
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4 mai 2021 à 18 h 9
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Yeah it will cost a LOT more than that. Sammy will be a top 5 goalie in his prime. He's young and cheap.
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Yeah hes thier goalie, they can't afford to just move him
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4 mai 2021 à 18 h 12
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It's a pretty bad underpay.

I would think Samsonov is pretty much untouchable right now to WSH, and a 30 year old goalie that hasn't played all season due to injury + 3rd is not even in the ballpark.

WSH would probably be asking for a top prospect if they trade Samsonov -- someone like Newhook+ honestly. Not saying COL would consider that, but I think that's how they'd value Samsonov.
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We wouldn’t move Samsonov for Francouz. We’d move him if we were getting a young RHD or a promising forward back. We’d also do it before the expansion draft so we can protect Vanecek.
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It's a pretty bad underpay.

I would think Samsonov is pretty much untouchable right now to WSH, and a 30 year old goalie that hasn't played all season due to injury + 3rd is not even in the ballpark.

WSH would probably be asking for a top prospect if they trade Samsonov -- someone like Newhook+ honestly. Not saying COL would consider that, but I think that's how they'd value Samsonov.


Newhook+ is a good start I think. Samsonov would’ve been untouchable had Vanecek not shown he’s capable of starting at least 50% of games this season.
4 mai 2021 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: brady_t12
Newhook+ is a good start I think. Samsonov would’ve been untouchable had Vanecek not shown he’s capable of starting at least 50% of games this season.

Edit never mind changed my mind again, you aren’t getting Newhook for any goalie on the planet not named John Gibson. You vastly over estimate a goalies value.
4 mai 2021 à 18 h 33
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Asking for Newhook + is arguably a bigger overpay than this is an underpay. As for young RHD I reckon the Avs might consider Francouz plus one of Timmins/Barron/Helleson.
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Newhook+ is a good start I think. Samsonov would’ve been untouchable had Vanecek not shown he’s capable of starting at least 50% of games this season.


I don't know. Newhook's kinda small for a team that looks like it's going back to a heavy game type of build. He's got skills against kids, but I'm just not sold yet. Francouz, Barron, and a 2nd for Samsonov and Hagelin?
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I don't know. Newhook's kinda small for a team that looks like it's going back to a heavy game type of build. He's got skills against kids, but I'm just not sold yet. Francouz, Barron, and a 2nd for Samsonov and Hagelin?


this isn't the 90s..."small" players can play hockey...even though Newhook is a solid build at 5'11 195
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this isn't the 90s..."small" players can play hockey...even though Newhook is a solid build at 5'11 195


Caufield is doing just great. But with one year of college, Newhook is unproven. Samsonov is still more valuable to the Caps. That's my whole point.
4 mai 2021 à 20 h 29
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Caufield is doing just great. But with one year of college, Newhook is unproven. Samsonov is still more valuable to the Caps. That's my whole point.

Newhook has 2 yrs of college and has been a ppg player in the AHL before getting called up to the taxi squad. There is a reason at the start of the season he was ranked as one of the 10 best prospects in all of hockey. Kid has elite speed and hands and has produced huge offensive numbers at all levels. He is untouchable for the Avs to important because of his skill and contract.
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this isn't the 90s..."small" players can play hockey...even though Newhook is a solid build at 5'11 195


Funny that....Burnaby Joe was......5'11 195.
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Yeah it will cost a LOT more than that. Sammy will be a top 5 goalie in his prime. He's young and cheap.


im not saying thats what he is worth but he also currently isnt working for washinton and they are trying to win a stanley so i makes sence for them to do this
5 mai 2021 à 12 h 55
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Quoting: villenash
It's a pretty bad underpay.

I would think Samsonov is pretty much untouchable right now to WSH, and a 30 year old goalie that hasn't played all season due to injury + 3rd is not even in the ballpark.

WSH would probably be asking for a top prospect if they trade Samsonov -- someone like Newhook+ honestly. Not saying COL would consider that, but I think that's how they'd value Samsonov.


not saying that is fair just an example of what we would give a pick and franky
5 mai 2021 à 13 h 0
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Asking for Newhook + is arguably a bigger overpay than this is an underpay. As for young RHD I reckon the Avs might consider Francouz plus one of Timmins/Barron/Helleson.


newhook is an overpay i was thiking timmins or barron like franky and barron or timmins and a 2023 2nd
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Quoting: brady_t12
Newhook+ is a good start I think. Samsonov would’ve been untouchable had Vanecek not shown he’s capable of starting at least 50% of games this season.


Quoting: villenash
It's a pretty bad underpay.

I would think Samsonov is pretty much untouchable right now to WSH, and a 30 year old goalie that hasn't played all season due to injury + 3rd is not even in the ballpark.

newhook is an overpay i was thinking timmins or barron like franky and barron or timmins and a 2023 2nd

WSH would probably be asking for a top prospect if they trade Samsonov -- someone like Newhook+ honestly. Not saying COL would consider that, but I think that's how they'd value Samsonov.


Quoting: ClockReads2113
Yeah it will cost a LOT more than that. Sammy will be a top 5 goalie in his prime. He's young and cheap.


newhook is an overpay i was thiking timmins or barron like franky and barron or timmins and a 2023 2nd
5 mai 2021 à 14 h 15
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Quoting: Ilya_Bryzgarlov_for_Vezina
im not saying thats what he is worth but he also currently isnt working for washinton and they are trying to win a stanley so i makes sence for them to do this


He's working fine. He's a young kid that's had some hiccups.
 
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