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Kotkaniemi for Dahlin

Créé par: DJPaulyB
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 4 mai 2021
Publié: 4 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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We lose Chariot to Expansion, Caufield gets the number 8! With our center depth, I dont see why we should hang on to KK. We are in dire need of an offensive puck moving D man. Buffalo gets a young center from the same draft and a 1st round pick back, as well as a veteran presence who is a great defensive forward in Byron. Drouin doesnt want to come back, we trade him for a draft pick and some money. Yes i do think he is worth atleast 1st. He has 2/3 years on his deal left and he can get you atleast 40 points. Great passer and a proven playoff performer.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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UFAANSCAP HIT
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34 250 000 $
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MTL
    EXPANSION
    2.
    MTL
    1. Dahlin, Rasmus [Droits de RFA]
    BUF
    1. Byron, Paul (1 000 000 $ retained)
    2. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [Droits de RFA]
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
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    MTL
    1. Rask, Victor
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
    Détails additionnels:
    Habs trade drouin for a 1st round pick. Rask is a 1 year contrsact with money coming back
    MIN
    1. Drouin, Jonathan (500 000 $ retained)
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    4 mai 2021 à 14 h 44
    #1
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    Buffalo fans aren't gonna be happy about this...
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    4 mai 2021 à 14 h 45
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    Drouin isn't worth Rask, let alone a 1st.
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    4 mai 2021 à 14 h 46
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    Sabres block the habs phone number....
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    4 mai 2021 à 14 h 49
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    so we get rid of KK because we have center depth and then we trade for another center? seems logical
    Buffalo would never move dahlin for that, if habs are sending a KK package to buffalo it better be part of a massive deal for Eichel.
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 1
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    Quoting: wabit
    Drouin isn't worth Rask, let alone a 1st.


    Since when Rask has been worth something? Before getting carried by Kaprizov he was strictly a cap dump with negative value.
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 4
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    Quoting: wabit
    Drouin isn't worth Rask, let alone a 1st.


    Yeahhhh sureee.... Rask has been better this year but he's still a bottom 6 center with a bad contract. I don't think you've ever seen Drouin play a single shift in your existence. The guy is just lacking confidence. This doesn'T make any sense for MTL's perspective too....
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 6
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    Poor KK. Habs fan whipping boy already... his ELC isn't even done yet... Romanov already getting whipped... How long till Suzuki? Or heaven forbid... Colon Cauliflower?
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 6
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    Is this serious? No one is taking on drouin's trash contract

    It's the other way around, Montreal pays

    For the millionth time, wild don't need wingers. Drouin won't play on wild


    Make a proposal that is serious, & realistic. Not a dream proposal for Montreal
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 8
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    Quoting: Tarlam01
    Yeahhhh sureee.... Rask has been better this year but he's still a bottom 6 center with a bad contract. I don't think you've ever seen Drouin play a single shift in your existence. The guy is just lacking confidence. This doesn'T make any sense for MTL's perspective too....


    No dude. Rask is better, & has 1 year left

    Drouin is a bad player, winger, & more years. also personal problems meaning all of these make him a negative asset
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 9
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Since when Rask has been worth something? Before getting carried by Kaprizov he was strictly a cap dump with negative value.


    & wild don't need or want drouin at all. He won't play on wild.

    So it doesn't matter. Wild have like a million better wingers
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 10
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    Quoting: BrodinCheerD
    & wild don't need or want drouin at all. He won't play on wild.

    So it doesn't matter. Wild have like a million better wingers


    I do agree that Wild has no need for wingers.

    I don't agree with the notion that you'd have many better options.
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 15
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    I do agree that Wild has no need for wingers.

    I don't agree with the notion that you'd have many better options.


    Dude wikf do have a million better wingers

    Kaprizov, fiala, greenway, zuccarello, Matt boldy, Adam Beckman, Marcus foligno, Nick Sturm, etc

    There is a reason parise is playing on 4th line
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 18
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    Quoting: Tarlam01
    Yeahhhh sureee.... Rask has been better this year but he's still a bottom 6 center with a bad contract. I don't think you've ever seen Drouin play a single shift in your existence. The guy is just lacking confidence. This doesn'T make any sense for MTL's perspective too....


    Drouin's contract makes his value tank. I've watched him play plenty, he's a worse Granlund. There are plenty of similar wings going to be UFAs this offseason, and they'll all be signed for less than $5m.

    $1.5m cheaper, 1 less year, more goals, and is a center (which MN is in desperate need of). Rask > Drouin.

    He fits nowhere in MN's lineup Kaprizov, Fiala, Zucc, Greenway, and Foligno are all better wings. MN is stuck with Parise, Boldy needs a spot next year, and Hartman needs to move back to wing. There is 8 wings already for MN.
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 23
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    Quoting: BrodinCheerD
    Dude wikf do have a million better wingers

    Kaprizov, fiala, greenway, zuccarello, Matt boldy, Adam Beckman, Marcus foligno, Nick Sturm, etc

    There is a reason parise is playing on 4th line


    On a top-6 role I'd probably take three first of that list over Drouin. And I don't even like the guy.

    The rest of them are either too unproven or better at more defensive, lower role.
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 28
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    On a top-6 role I'd probably take three first of that list over Drouin. And I don't even like the guy.

    The rest of them are either too unproven or better at more defensive, lower role.


    Wrong. Glad to know you don't know anything about wild

    He's not playing over Marcus foligno, zuccarello, kaprizov or fiala

    He's not playing over greenway

    Don't know why you are trying to push him on wild

    He won't play on wild because he's not good

    On top of mats zuccarello, Marcus foligno, kaprizov, Fiala, & nick sturm

    Wild have matt boldy , Adam Beckman, etc

    There is also a million wingers in free agency better than drouin


    Drouin's play; lack there of since being in Tampa bay; age, contract, leave of absence, all of these makes him a negative value especially in covid world


    Wild have zero room, or need for drouin because he won't play on this current wild team
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 32
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    Quoting: BrodinCheerD
    Is this serious? No one is taking on drouin's trash contract

    It's the other way around, Montreal pays

    For the millionth time, wild don't need wingers. Drouin won't play on wild


    Make a proposal that is serious, & realistic. Not a dream proposal for Montreal


    Not saying you should trade for him in any way but dude.... You're pathetic thinking MIN has a thousand better wingers than Drouin. Like c'mon dude. You have a few good players but beside them your forward group is trash. Getting a decent 1st C and they might be interesting to watch but.... Yo Rask was a big dumb cap trash last season. Things haven't changed. Win something and we'll be able to talk man to man properly. There is a reason Drouin was drafted 3rd overall. Does he have skills? Plenty! He's he lacking something? Definitely. Does that means he's bad? No human is perfect dude.
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 35
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Since when Rask has been worth something? Before getting carried by Kaprizov he was strictly a cap dump with negative value.


    Rask isn't worth much but show me why Drouin is worth anything at this point. I would rather have the cap space in either case.
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 40
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    Quoting: OutCold13
    Rask isn't worth much but show me why Drouin is worth anything at this point. I would rather have the cap space in either case.


    He's a skilled constant 40 point winger. Yeah he isn't exactly the prime asset, but honestly that wasn't the point behind my comment.

    Point was that I'd absolutely have Drouin over Rask. Not that Wild should go after him.
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 42
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Since when Rask has been worth something? Before getting carried by Kaprizov he was strictly a cap dump with negative value.


    That does not mean that we should give up a 1st for Drouin
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 43
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    That does not mean that we should give up a 1st for Drouin


    I agree.
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 43
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    I agree.


    I d better bury Rask in the AHL with 2mil relieved.
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 45
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    Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
    I d better bury Rask in the AHL with 2mil relieved.


    Viable option lol
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    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 47
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    He's a skilled constant 40 point winger. Yeah he isn't exactly the prime asset, but honestly that wasn't the point behind my comment.

    Point was that I'd absolutely have Drouin over Rask. Not that Wild should go after him.


    So your saying this is a bad deal? If you are then we agree.
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 48
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    Quoting: BrodinCheerD
    Wrong. Glad to know you don't know anything about wild

    He's not playing over Marcus foligno, zuccarello, kaprizov or fiala

    He's not playing over greenway

    Don't know why you are trying to push him on wild

    He won't play on wild because he's not good

    On top of mats zuccarello, Marcus foligno, kaprizov, Fiala, & nick sturm

    Wild have matt boldy , Adam Beckman, etc

    There is also a million wingers in free agency better than drouin


    Drouin's play; lack there of since being in Tampa bay; age, contract, leave of absence, all of these makes him a negative value especially in covid world


    Wild have zero room, or need for drouin because he won't play on this current wild team


    Tell me when exactly I said Wild should be after Drouin?

    Only thing I said is that he's better than Rask. And that's a low bar.
    4 mai 2021 à 15 h 49
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    Quoting: OutCold13
    So your saying this is a bad deal? If you are then we agree.


    Yeah it is. Only thing that bugged me was that one guy saying Drouin isn't worth Rask. That's a joke imo.
     
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