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Massive trade

Créé par: NucksnOilers
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 4 mai 2021
Publié: 4 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
56 500 000 $
34 500 000 $
1950 000 $
34 500 000 $
1925 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Holloway, Dylan
1925 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Holloway, Dylan
  2. Benson, Tyler [Droits de RFA]
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
2.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 285 172 $669 339 $1 790 000 $5 214 828 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 8
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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834 167 $834 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
870 000 $870 000 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
950 000 $950 000 $
C
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
785 000 $785 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ (525 000 $$525K525 000 $$525K)
C, AD
UFA - 1

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4 mai 2021 à 13 h 7
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I'd rather have yamo and holloway than Keller.
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4 mai 2021 à 13 h 10
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I started typing a lengthy response and just said, nah the Coyotes decline. Chychrun and Soderstrom are about their only untouchable pieces and that trade has a definite quantity over quality feel.
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4 mai 2021 à 13 h 11
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Why is it that homeboy Tyler Benson gets traded away in almost every ACGM I see presented by an Edmonton adherent?
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4 mai 2021 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: nbw_r3ap3r
I'd rather have yamo and holloway than Keller.


Fair the main piece is chychrun tho.
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4 mai 2021 à 13 h 16
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Why is it that homeboy Tyler Benson gets traded away in almost every ACGM I see presented by an Edmonton adherent?


Cause he's expendable and can be used to obtain more pressing needs.
4 mai 2021 à 13 h 17
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I started typing a lengthy response and just said, nah the Coyotes decline. Chychrun and Soderstrom are about their only untouchable pieces and that trade has a definite quantity over quality feel.


Fair but holloway and the two firsts could potentially be something special with ben and yamamoto being really good depth guys.The only way this trade happens is if Arizona decides to blow everything up which is unlikely but could happen.
4 mai 2021 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
Fair the main piece is chychrun tho.


I'd still maybe wager holloway and yamo, Holloway is gonna be that big presence on McDavid's line and yamo was a point per game player last year...
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4 mai 2021 à 13 h 22
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Neither team wants to do this. Chychrun and Keller are the cornerstones of Arizona's future, and Edmonton would be insane to give away holloway and yam
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4 mai 2021 à 13 h 33
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Why is it that homeboy Tyler Benson gets traded away in almost every ACGM I see presented by an Edmonton adherent?


Because he's killing it in the AHL but only has NHL average skating ability, so he's seen as a bust by many Oilers fans. Every prospect has to perfect or they get discarded like an old kleenex...
4 mai 2021 à 13 h 37
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Quoting: Xqb15a
I started typing a lengthy response and just said, nah the Coyotes decline. Chychrun and Soderstrom are about their only untouchable pieces and that trade has a definite quantity over quality feel.


What?

That trade is 2 future 1st round picks, 2 of Edmonton's top prospects, and a young roster player already capable of playing top 6 minutes and producing. Plus another pick in a mid round draft... how in the world is that quantity over quality? That's all quality assets.
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4 mai 2021 à 13 h 51
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Why is it that homeboy Tyler Benson gets traded away in almost every ACGM I see presented by an Edmonton adherent?


This has a real Bracco feeling to it. Killing it in the AHL so he's got to worth tons in the nhl, let go for nothing at the end of the year
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4 mai 2021 à 14 h 11
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Keller seems overpaid, the 38th highest paid forward in the league. Oilers can spend 7m better than Keller and keep their picks. Yea Chrychrum is great value in the trade, but the Keller inclusion kills any thought of the deal.
4 mai 2021 à 14 h 18
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Don't think the Oilers consider that in a flat cap world. Way too much of our prospect pipeline gone in one deal. Either it works and you look like genius or it doesn't work and you're years away of getting out of the mess. I think I'd rather have the 6 future pieces and take advantage of another flat cap free agency to tinker around the margins.
4 mai 2021 à 14 h 49
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keller isn't someone the oilers need. Chychrun is a solid dman who is worth top assets
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4 mai 2021 à 15 h 49
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Quoting: TrueCanuck
What?

That trade is 2 future 1st round picks, 2 of Edmonton's top prospects, and a young roster player already capable of playing top 6 minutes and producing. Plus another pick in a mid round draft... how in the world is that quantity over quality? That's all quality assets.


Well 2 late 1sts one in a draft bereft of depth, another at the back half of a draft. Holloway is a nice player and the best part of the package, Benson is an AHL player and if you’re counting Yamamoto as a prospect well than my definition of prospect isn’t a guy who has played 101 NHL games. So yeah not 2 top prospects I didn’t see Broberg or Bouchard’s name in there, and they are trading for a Norris caliber dman. Benson is 100% filler, as is a 3rd pick in 3 drafts from now, a 2021 1st rd pick has the least amount of value any 1st round pick has ever had, Yamamoto is a solid player nothing special. So yeah 4 of the 6 pieces being meh makes it most definitely quantity over quality.
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4 mai 2021 à 16 h 5
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Every single one of you Oilers fans under this trade saying that the Oilers shouldn’t do this are out of your mind. Arizona is getting absolutely robbed here
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4 mai 2021 à 16 h 9
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Well 2 late 1sts one in a draft bereft of depth, another at the back half of a draft. Holloway is a nice player and the best part of the package, Benson is an AHL player and if you’re counting Yamamoto as a prospect well than my definition of prospect isn’t a guy who has played 101 NHL games. So yeah not 2 top prospects I didn’t see Broberg or Bouchard’s name in there, and they are trading for a Norris caliber dman. Benson is 100% filler, as is a 3rd pick in 3 drafts from now, a 2021 1st rd pick has the least amount of value any 1st round pick has ever had, Yamamoto is a solid player nothing special. So yeah 4 of the 6 pieces being meh makes it most definitely quantity over quality.


Well, you clearly don't follow the Oilers if you call Benson a "filler"... the guy has tore apart the AHL for 3 seasons which is not an easy thing to do in your early 20's. The fact that this draft is so scrambled should not lower the value of the pick - very good chances Arizona could get a steal between picks 20-25 (which is where the puck currently is) & also the fact that Arizona doesn't even have a 1st this year adds value. Next year's draft will be a pretty good first round, so even if the pick is 32nd it could still be a good player. Yamamoto is the quality young roster player that can already play top 6 minutes (guess you missed that part), he'd be a heck of a compliment for Conor Garland. Then there's Dylan Holloway who was their recent 1st round pick.

So yeah,
2 top prospects: Benson and Holloway
Young NHL top 6 player: Yamamoto
2 1st round picks
A 3rd round pick

That's most definitely not quantity over quality.
4 mai 2021 à 16 h 14
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Every single one of you Oilers fans under this trade saying that the Oilers shouldn’t do this are out of your mind. Arizona is getting absolutely robbed here


No they're not.

Chychrun = Yamamoto, 2021 1st, Holloway
Keller << Benson, 2022 1st, 2023 3rd

Arizona gets the better end of this deal. Keller hasn't performed well since his rookie year and he's basically a 45 point guy that doesn't score a lot. At $7.15M for 7 more years, he'd better start turning that around or he's in contract anchor territory. & the fact that Arizona can shed that much money in a world where they already didn't have enough of it before the pandemic, they definitely don't have it now. There's no way Arizona is "getting robbed in this deal" 😂
4 mai 2021 à 17 h 16
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Well, you clearly don't follow the Oilers if you call Benson a "filler"... the guy has tore apart the AHL for 3 seasons which is not an easy thing to do in your early 20's. The fact that this draft is so scrambled should not lower the value of the pick - very good chances Arizona could get a steal between picks 20-25 (which is where the puck currently is) & also the fact that Arizona doesn't even have a 1st this year adds value. Next year's draft will be a pretty good first round, so even if the pick is 32nd it could still be a good player. Yamamoto is the quality young roster player that can already play top 6 minutes (guess you missed that part), he'd be a heck of a compliment for Conor Garland. Then there's Dylan Holloway who was their recent 1st round pick.

So yeah,
2 top prospects: Benson and Holloway
Young NHL top 6 player: Yamamoto
2 1st round picks
A 3rd round pick

That's most definitely not quantity over quality.


“He’s torn apart the AHL for 3 years”, drafted in 2016 is not a prospect. He is a guy who hasn’t made the NHL. He is filler.

100% the value of 2021 picks are low because A) there is no high end talent B) some prospects read OHL haven’t played

Yamamoto is not a top young NHL talent. He’s solid but he is literally a .5 ppg career guy which translates into 41pts a year in an 82 game season. Guys that score 40pts a season are not too young talent.

You’re entitled to your opinion, and I’m not even an AZ fan but that is an offer AZ A) never accepts B) says you need to add more quality to make it realistic. Hence it is more quantity than quality. Peace.
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4 mai 2021 à 18 h 34
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No they're not.

Chychrun = Yamamoto, 2021 1st, Holloway
Keller << Benson, 2022 1st, 2023 3rd

Arizona gets the better end of this deal. Keller hasn't performed well since his rookie year and he's basically a 45 point guy that doesn't score a lot. At $7.15M for 7 more years, he'd better start turning that around or he's in contract anchor territory. & the fact that Arizona can shed that much money in a world where they already didn't have enough of it before the pandemic, they definitely don't have it now. There's no way Arizona is "getting robbed in this deal" 😂


I wouldnt do either of those deals separately from each other and certainly not as a whole package. The package for Keller in particular is a joke lol. He’s on pace for 55 points on an anemic offense where he has to create all of his own opportunities. On EDM he would be a PPG player, especially playing with one of McD or Draisaitl. In return they get Bracco 2.0 and a pick above 25. Yawn. And the package for Chych is in the realm of possibilities value-wise, but Coyotes 1. Are not trading him and 2. If they did it would be to get a 1C. Considering none of your top guys are for sale, we’ll pass.
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4 mai 2021 à 18 h 53
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Quoting: TrueCanuck
No they're not.

Chychrun = Yamamoto, 2021 1st, Holloway
Keller << Benson, 2022 1st, 2023 3rd

Arizona gets the better end of this deal. Keller hasn't performed well since his rookie year and he's basically a 45 point guy that doesn't score a lot. At $7.15M for 7 more years, he'd better start turning that around or he's in contract anchor territory. & the fact that Arizona can shed that much money in a world where they already didn't have enough of it before the pandemic, they definitely don't have it now. There's no way Arizona is "getting robbed in this deal" 😂


Your evaluation of Keller is amazingly . . . uninformed.

His 35 points on an offensively challenged Arizona team, where he doesn't have one of the Big Three as his center, would still put him ahead of all other forwards on the Oilers (and that's assuming that RNH will score more points in his final 6 games than Keller will score in his 3 final games).

That you think Keller isn't worth a future late first and two very dubious other features (odds on to be worthless) is simultaneously shocking and hilarious.
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