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if they hadent traded orielly

Créé par: Nikolay_Zherdev
Date de création initiale: 4 mai 2021
Publié: 4 mai 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Jost, Tyson31 500 000 $
Makar, Cale88 000 000 $
Timmins, Conor21 150 000 $
Sherwood, Kiefer2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard11 000 000 $
Grubauer, Philipp34 500 000 $
Landeskog, Gabriel76 500 000 $
Johansson, Jonas2750 000 $
Dries, Sheldon2750 000 $
Calvert, Matt1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
STL
  1. Compher, J.T.
Détails additionnels:
he was part of trade
2.
COL
    SEA
    1. Johnson, Erik
    2. Bowers, Shane
    Détails additionnels:
    expansion
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    COL
    COL
    COL
    2022
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    2023
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $82 215 630 $1 741 463 $2 925 000 $-715 630 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    COL
    Landeskog, Gabriel
    6 500 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    COL
    MacKinnon, Nathan
    6 300 000 $
    C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Rantanen, Mikko
    9 250 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 4
    COL
    Burakovsky, André
    4 900 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    STL
    O'Reilly, Ryan
    7 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Donskoi, Joonas
    3 900 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Nichushkin, Valeri
    2 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    COL
    Kadri, Nazem
    4 500 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    COL
    Kaut, Martin
    863 333 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
    COL
    Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
    1 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Jost, Tyson
    1 500 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    COL
    Calvert, Matt
    750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA
    COL
    Sherwood, Kiefer
    750 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    COL
    O'Connor, Logan
    725 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    COL
    Graves, Ryan
    3 166 667 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Makar, Cale
    8 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
    COL
    Grubauer, Philipp
    4 500 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    COL
    Girard, Samuel
    5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 6
    COL
    Toews, Devon
    4 100 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    COL
    Francouz, Pavel
    2 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    COL
    Byram, Bowen
    894 167 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    COL
    Timmins, Conor
    1 150 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    COL
    MacDonald, Jacob
    725 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    COL
    Dries, Sheldon
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    C
    UFA - 1
    COL
    Johansson, Jonas
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    G
    RFA - 1

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    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 5
    #1
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    "Do they win the cup?" 🚫

    "How many cups?" ✅

    awesome face
    Nikolay_Zherdev a aimé ceci.
    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 8
    #2
    Démarrer sujet
    Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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    Quoting: Radu47
    "Do they win the cup?" 🚫

    "How many cups?" ✅

    awesome face


    there in a real tough cap situation tho
    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 29
    #3
    Watches no games
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    there in a real tough cap situation tho


    "oh no, not *too* many good players, whatever should we do"

    well you try to win the cup and recycle good players for picks and prospects, or younger players on cheaper contracts that has the potential to grow into older, better players, which you then have to ship for...
    You get the point. Tampa is doing this. Chicago did it when they were good, before they got attached to the old guys. This is the best way to stay good for a long time.

    A way not to stay good is like my fellow Bruins supporters coping with the '15 draft by saying "we wouldn't have the cap space if we drafted Barzal and Conner" well guess what, you can trade your players on more expensive contracts - not because they're bad, but because you refuel the winning cycle and stay young.
    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 30
    #4
    mokumboi
    Rejoint: avr. 2019
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    Dude, that was six years ago. Do you have any idea how many alternate timeline permutations that brings up? For starters, you probably don't have Makar.
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    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 31
    #5
    Dr.
    Rejoint: mai 2019
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    i think there's a real trickle down effect from not trading orielly though. Odds are they are better in the 48 point season and might miss makar, who knows who the duchene situation plays out if we aren't a big rebuilder at that time so thats girard, byram and bowers probily not here. We wouldn't trade for kadri so he's not here but probily not needed since we'd have 2 centers. So offence gets stronger for sure but if we keep him we pretty much gut the defence and at this point in time i'd take makar, byram and girard over orielly.
    With that being said i'd be okay with trading for him again, a Mack Orielly 1-2 punch would be unreal
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    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 34
    #6
    mokumboi
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    Quoting: ArakinSkywalker

    With that being said i'd be okay with trading for him again, a Mack Orielly 1-2 punch would be unreal



    You can't afford it.
    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 37
    #7
    Rejoint: juin 2015
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    Alternative title

    What is ROR didn’t force his way out of Colorado
    Nikolay_Zherdev et TJTwolf a aimé ceci.
    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 38
    #8
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Dude, that was six years ago. Do you have any idea how many alternate timeline permutations that brings up? For starters, you probably don't have Makar.


    Or byram or girard bc they would have traded duchene instead, those 2 could not co-exist
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    4 mai 2021 à 10 h 42
    #9
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Dude, that was six years ago. Do you have any idea how many alternate timeline permutations that brings up? For starters, you probably don't have Makar.


    Exactly. Way too tough to measure a trade that long ago. Too many variables at play
    4 mai 2021 à 11 h 21
    #10
    Ragsandbluesfan
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    Forgetting saad who came from zadorov
    4 mai 2021 à 11 h 29
    #11
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    Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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    Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
    Forgetting saad who came from zadorov


    thats why I didn't sign him
    4 mai 2021 à 11 h 32
    #12
    Ragsandbluesfan
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    thats why I didn't sign him


    I didn't notice it was a 21-22 AGM lol
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