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Créé par: deys3232
Équipe: 2021-22 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 14 avr. 2021
Publié: 3 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
67 500 000 $
44 500 000 $
43 650 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
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24 000 000 $
32 750 000 $
Transactions
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CBJ
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
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CBJ
  1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
STL
  1. Korpisalo, Joonas
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Blues run a Binnington/Korpisalo tandem
Husso is not an NHL quality backup
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3 mai 2021 à 14 h 31
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Ehlers is worth WAY more than Jones.
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3 mai 2021 à 14 h 31
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One year of Seth Jones doesn't get you Ehlers, let alone the Jets adding a 1st on top of it.
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3 mai 2021 à 14 h 34
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hahahaha if you think Winnipeg are the ones adding
3 mai 2021 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: nbw_r3ap3r
Ehlers is worth WAY more than Jones.


I agree, but with the reputation Jones has, I would not be surprised if the Jets did it
3 mai 2021 à 14 h 34
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Maybe if jones had term it could work
3 mai 2021 à 14 h 35
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hahahaha if you think Winnipeg are the ones adding


I do not think they should, but I think they will
3 mai 2021 à 14 h 37
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Maybe if jones had term it could work


The Jets could give him an extension
3 mai 2021 à 14 h 39
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The Jets could give him an extension


Tough to sell Winnipeg as a place to sign an extension. Good hockey team / fan base, but I think there are a lot more attractive options for Jones
3 mai 2021 à 14 h 42
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Yeah because trading a core asset to a yet another Jets winger went so well for them the last time.

That D is looking bad. Also I dunno why CBJ is adding a 2nd in the Dunn swap, he's taken a step down this year. Should be a 1-on-1 swap with Korpi imo if anything.
3 mai 2021 à 15 h 4
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The Blues aren't trading for a goalie, thanks.
3 mai 2021 à 15 h 7
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While I agree that Husso hasn't been good and the Blues should upgrade from him I would point out that the difference between Korpisalo and Husso's save percentage this season is less than 1%.

Quoting: justaBoss
Yeah because trading a core asset to a yet another Jets winger went so well for them the last time.

That D is looking bad. Also I dunno why CBJ is adding a 2nd in the Dunn swap, he's taken a step down this year. Should be a 1-on-1 swap with Korpi imo if anything.


Korpisalo goes from a .911 goalie (with a .941 in the playoffs) last year to a .894 goalie this year but somehow Dunn is the one you're criticizing for taking a step back?
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3 mai 2021 à 15 h 10
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I agree, but with the reputation Jones has, I would not be surprised if the Jets did it


Jets haven’t won a game ever since Ehlers was injured🤨
3 mai 2021 à 15 h 30
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I do not think they should, but I think they will


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Jones for Ehlers isn't happening with those numbers
3 mai 2021 à 15 h 40
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
Korpisalo goes from a .911 goalie (with a .941 in the playoffs) last year to a .894 goalie this year but somehow Dunn is the one you're criticizing for taking a step back?


Respectively the whole CBJ team has taken major step backs. Naturally that effects on Korpisalo's numbers as well.

Individually speaking I ain't 100% certain that all STL players have had such step backs that Dunn has had...but with CBJ players, pretty much all of them have been worse than what they were a year ago.
3 mai 2021 à 15 h 44
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Winnipeg laughs and hangs up
3 mai 2021 à 16 h 14
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Quoting: justaBoss
Respectively the whole CBJ team has taken major step backs. Naturally that effects on Korpisalo's numbers as well.

Individually speaking I ain't 100% certain that all STL players have had such step backs that Dunn has had...but with CBJ players, pretty much all of them have been worse than what they were a year ago.


Well, two things with this.

One, on Korpisalo: Yeah I understand the line of thinking - pretty much everyone on Columbus has been bad, so maybe he's better than the numbers suggest right?

Well, out of the six seasons he's been in the NHL, Korpisalo has been below league average in save percentage in four of them, below league average in GAA in five of them. And Columbus wasn't bad for any of those seasons. So while I understand the impulse to say "well the entire team was bad so what can you do" and yeah if you dropped him on a better team his numbers might be a smidge better, his numbers weren't all that much better the vast majority of the time he was on a better Columbus team. Maybe instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt this season, it's more apt to say last season's performance was an anomaly and this season he fell back to what we're used to seeing out of him, which is him not being very good at all.

Two, on Dunn: I get why people would think he's taken a step back. I don't really agree that he has- he's second on the team in defenseman scoring, on pace for 35 points in an 82 game season, which would match his career high and give him 12 more points than he had last year while mostly maintaining his strong defensive metrics- but I guess if you think he's taken a step back you can think that. HIs advanced stats haven't been as good this year, so there's some truth to it I suppose.

But, if you think that- the Blues themselves have taken a step back I think pretty much everyone would agree right? Last year first in the west, in spitting distance for the President's trophy. This year they've been horrible for large stretches, their playoff chances dipped below 50% briefly, they would have about fifteen fewer points in a full 82 than they did last year, much like Columbus would have 20 fewer points in a full 82 this year than they did last year. So why are we giving Korpisalo a pass for being on a team that took a step back while not giving Dunn a pass for similar circumstances, despite him actually improving his individual performance statistically? Just because St. Louis is in the playoffs and Columbus isn't?

Idk, I don't know why St. Louis is in a rush to move Dunn and I don't know why anyone thinks Korpisalo is good. This seems like a win-win trade for Columbus with the second in there.
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3 mai 2021 à 17 h 29
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Well, two things with this.

One, on Korpisalo: Yeah I understand the line of thinking - pretty much everyone on Columbus has been bad, so maybe he's better than the numbers suggest right?

Well, out of the six seasons he's been in the NHL, Korpisalo has been below league average in save percentage in four of them, below league average in GAA in five of them. And Columbus wasn't bad for any of those seasons. So while I understand the impulse to say "well the entire team was bad so what can you do" and yeah if you dropped him on a better team his numbers might be a smidge better, his numbers weren't all that much better the vast majority of the time he was on a better Columbus team. Maybe instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt this season, it's more apt to say last season's performance was an anomaly and this season he fell back to what we're used to seeing out of him, which is him not being very good at all.

Two, on Dunn: I get why people would think he's taken a step back. I don't really agree that he has- he's second on the team in defenseman scoring, on pace for 35 points in an 82 game season, which would match his career high and give him 12 more points than he had last year while mostly maintaining his strong defensive metrics- but I guess if you think he's taken a step back you can think that. HIs advanced stats haven't been as good this year, so there's some truth to it I suppose.

But, if you think that- the Blues themselves have taken a step back I think pretty much everyone would agree right? Last year first in the west, in spitting distance for the President's trophy. This year they've been horrible for large stretches, their playoff chances dipped below 50% briefly, they would have about fifteen fewer points in a full 82 than they did last year, much like Columbus would have 20 fewer points in a full 82 this year than they did last year. So why are we giving Korpisalo a pass for being on a team that took a step back while not giving Dunn a pass for similar circumstances, despite him actually improving his individual performance statistically? Just because St. Louis is in the playoffs and Columbus isn't?

Idk, I don't know why St. Louis is in a rush to move Dunn and I don't know why anyone thinks Korpisalo is good. This seems like a win-win trade for Columbus with the second in there.


Fair points here.

As for why Blues would move Dunn in the first place, imo the main reason is the expansion draft. Dunn's at risk of getting exposed, and as a pending RFA the next contract he's after could very well be much bigger. Plus Blues already have a good amount of LHDs to boot - Krug, Scandella come first to mind, with some youngsters like Perunovich and Mikkola coming as well. Dunn could very well be the odd man out in a sense.

I still hold that Korpi+2nd for Dunn is an overpayment to me, but that honestly depends on how you value Korpisalo himself. Personally I believe a team could pay up to what Sens paid for Murray. The guy also had a terrible record the year before he was traded, but he has made a reputations as a solid playoff goalie. Korpi to an extent holds the same reputation - dropping the Leafs, challenging Bolts, replacing Bobrovsky with a performance taking a relatively meh team to the playoffs - with the help of Elvis naturally.

Is two seconds an overpayment towards Dunn? Possibly yes, if STL considers the main reason to move the guy is to confirm they won't lose the guy to Seattle for free. Although such exchange would also create a risk of losing Korpisalo to SEA as well...

There's very much variables to consider here.
3 mai 2021 à 18 h 22
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I think CBJ should have moved Jones last year.
3 mai 2021 à 22 h 20
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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
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Jones for Ehlers isn't happening with those numbers


Trust me, I know how good Ehlers is, and how bad Jones is
And I am not saying it is a smart move for the Jets

However, we all know the reputation Jones has around the league, so I would not be surprised if he got a massive return in a trade
3 mai 2021 à 22 h 20
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I think CBJ should have moved Jones last year.


Agreed
 
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