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Créé par: BubbleDemko
Date de création initiale: mai 3, 2021
Publié: 3 mai à 13 h 44
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Wait it our one more year
Gadjovich and Lind are not waiver exempt next year
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Podkolzin, Vasily3900 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Laine, Patrik25 000 000 $
Pettersson, Elias26 000 000 $
Juolevi, Olli29 000 000 $
Lind, Kole2900 000 $
Hughes, Quinn36 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Hamonic, Travis22 000 000 $
Danault, Phillip35 000 000 $
Armia, Joel33 000 000 $
Forbort, Derek21 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Clarke, Brandt3900 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Laine, Patrik [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 4e round pick (TOR)
CBJ
  1. Miller, J.T.
VAN
    CGY
    1. Virtanen, Jake
    Détails additionnels:
    Contract terminated
    VAN
    1. 2021 2e round pick (BOS)
    BUF
    1. Holtby, Braden
    VAN
    1. Dillon, Brenden (1 000 000 $ retained)
    WSH
    1. Juolevi, Olli
    VAN
      SJS
      1. MacEwen, Zack
      Frais appliqués
      • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
      Enfoui
      • Loui Eriksson: 4 875 000 $ (6 000 000 $)
      • Antoine Roussel: 1 875 000 $ (3 000 000 $)
      ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
      2021
      VAN
      VAN
      BOS
      VAN
      VAN
      CHI
      VAN
      WPG
      VAN
      2022
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      TOR
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      2023
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2381 500 000 $80 218 546 $0 $1 165 000 $1 281 454 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Laine, Patrik
      5 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA
      VAN
      Pettersson, Elias
      6 000 000 $
      C
      RFA
      VAN
      Boeser, Brock
      5 875 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Pearson, Tanner
      3 250 000 $
      AG
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Horvat, Bo
      5 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Podkolzin, Vasily
      900 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 3
      Armia, Joel
      3 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA
      Danault, Phillip
      5 000 000 $
      C
      UFA
      VAN
      Höglander, Nils
      891 667 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Motte, Tyler
      1 225 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Focht, Carson
      821 667 $
      C
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Lind, Kole
      900 000 $
      AD
      RFA
      VAN
      Gadjovich, Jonah
      783 333 $
      AG
      RFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      VAN
      Schmidt, Nate
      5 950 000 $
      DG/DD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      VAN
      Myers, Tyler
      6 000 000 $
      DD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Demko, Thatcher
      5 000 000 $
      G
      UFA - 5
      VAN
      Hughes, Quinn
      6 000 000 $
      DG
      RFA
      VAN
      Hamonic, Travis
      2 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA
      VAN
      DiPietro, Michael
      811 667 $
      G
      RFA - 1
      WSH
      Dillon, Brenden
      2 900 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 3
      Clarke, Brandt
      900 000 $
      Forbort, Derek
      1 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA
      VAN
      Bowey, Madison
      725 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      VAN
      Ferland, Micheal
      3 500 000 $
      AG, AD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Beagle, Jay
      3 000 000 $
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 1

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      3 mai à 13 h 45
      #1
      Sabres fan
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      You wouldn’t get Patrick Laine for JT Miller one for one, never mind Columbus adding to the deal.
      3 mai à 13 h 47
      #2
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      Quoting: Tjm220
      You wouldn’t get Patrick Laine for JT Miller one for one, never mind Columbus adding to the deal.


      Playing fourth line tonight . Benched a few times now.
      3 mai à 13 h 53
      #3
      STL
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      Quoting: Tjm220
      You wouldn’t get Patrick Laine for JT Miller one for one, never mind Columbus adding to the deal.


      Miller is significantly better than Laine
      3 mai à 13 h 54
      #4
      First NY Then LA
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      Laine's qualifying offer is $7.5 million.
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      3 mai à 13 h 56
      #5
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Laine's qualifying offer is $7.5 million.


      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Laine's qualifying offer is $7.5 million.


      I did forget about that , Thanks. Truthfully Miller has outscored Laine in the last two years anyways.
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      3 mai à 14 h 01
      #6
      Build a wall
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      Don't think you will get a second for Holtby. Holtby is a backup goalie at this stage in his career. People probably aren't going to be lining up to acquire a 4.8 million dollar backup goalie. Retain 50% of that deal and you might generate some interest at that price.
      3 mai à 14 h 09
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      Quoting: Saskleaf
      Don't think you will get a second for Holtby. Holtby is a backup goalie at this stage in his career. People probably aren't going to be lining up to acquire a 4.8 million dollar backup goalie. Retain 50% of that deal and you might generate some interest at that price.


      Who is Sabers starting goalie tonight ?
      3 mai à 14 h 22
      #8
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      Quoting: BubbleDemko
      Who is Sabers starting goalie tonight ?


      Ullmark I think.
      But any goalie for Buffalo is going to be bad.

      Holtby, who has relatively poor stats in a backup role for a fairly bad but not atrocious team, would be terrible in Buffalo likely.
      Buffalo can probably get an equal goalie for much cheaper in free agency (Riemer, Riitch, Dubnyk, etc).
      3 mai à 14 h 30
      #9
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      Quoting: Saskleaf
      Ullmark I think.
      But any goalie for Buffalo is going to be bad.

      Holtby, who has relatively poor stats in a backup role for a fairly bad but not atrocious team, would be terrible in Buffalo likely.
      Buffalo can probably get an equal goalie for much cheaper in free agency (Riemer, Riitch, Dubnyk, etc).


      Sabers starter tonight is some guy who has played pro hockey for 9 years and getting his first start tonight. Some guy named Houser. Holtby has been very good for us lately . He had a rough start when the team was really bad at the beginning of the year.
      3 mai à 14 h 56
      #10
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      Quoting: BubbleDemko
      Sabers starter tonight is some guy who has played pro hockey for 9 years and getting his first start tonight. Some guy named Houser. Holtby has been very good for us lately . He had a rough start when the team was really bad at the beginning of the year.

      True, and I don’t really have high hopes for tonight. Maybe a miracle will occur and Hauser will play well. Still, Holtby makes far too much money to expect a good return in a trade without retention.
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      3 mai à 14 h 59
      #11
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Laine's qualifying offer is $7.5 million.

      Actually the current CBA has new rules about qualifying offers. Teams are no longer required to automatically offer a 10% raise if the player already made a salary over $1 million a year. In these cases the teams are only required to offer the same salary he already had in a qualifying offer. So $6.8 million roughly, still not great but he is an elite goal scorer when he’s right. Chances are he would have to sign the qualifying offer because he’s not getting a raise.
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      3 mai à 15 h 07
      #12
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      Quoting: Tjm220
      Actually the current CBA has new rules about qualifying offers. Teams are no longer required to automatically offer a 10% raise if the player already made a salary over $1 million a year. In these cases the teams are only required to offer the same salary he already had in a qualifying offer. So $6.8 million roughly, still not great but he is an elite goal scorer when he’s right. Chances are he would have to sign the qualifying offer because he’s not getting a raise.


      The flaw in your thinking is that cap hit (AAV) and salary are the same. As you yourself point out, it's the latter that is determinative. Laine's salary this season is $7.5 million, hence my statement that his QO is $7.5 million.
      3 mai à 15 h 15
      #13
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      Quoting: BubbleDemko
      Sabers starter tonight is some guy who has played pro hockey for 9 years and getting his first start tonight. Some guy named Houser. Holtby has been very good for us lately . He had a rough start when the team was really bad at the beginning of the year.


      Buffalo is so bad it probably doesn't even matter at this point who is in net. They will still not be anywhere near the playoffs. For them to spend a second on a rental is a horrible idea.

      Sure, he's been good of late, but a .901 save % (Holtby's stats for this season) is not good at all. Not starter material at any rate (and it doesn't help this year us actually an improvement from last year). The sabres would be better off getting someone for cheaper (in both cost and cap hit) in free agency.
      3 mai à 18 h 08
      #14
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      The flaw in your thinking is that cap hit (AAV) and salary are the same. As you yourself point out, it's the latter that is determinative. Laine's salary this season is $7.5 million, hence my statement that his QO is $7.5 million.

      If that’s the case isn’t there a decent chance that he doesn’t even get a qualifying offer? Who actually believes he’s worth $7.5 million a year?
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      3 mai à 18 h 13
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      Quoting: Tjm220
      If that’s the case isn’t there a decent chance that he doesn’t even get a qualifying offer? Who actually believes he’s worth $7.5 million a year?


      A two-year contract would bring him to free agency, so if Columbus decides to go with a new coach, I can see them gambling one year at that price to see what kind of effort he makes. But he might well be a flat-cap casualty.
      3 mai à 18 h 43
      #16
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      A two-year contract would bring him to free agency, so if Columbus decides to go with a new coach, I can see them gambling one year at that price to see what kind of effort he makes. But he might well be a flat-cap casualty.

      He would still end up with the highest bidder as a free agent. But then of course Columbus gave up their franchise center in exchange for Roslovic and what ends up being nothing else.
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      3 mai à 19 h 48
      #17
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      I haven't been watching Vancouver lately, but I keep hearing that supposedly Miller is looking like a capable NHL-level center of late. If and only if that is true, this deal could work for the Jackets. Otherwise, it doesn't.
      3 mai à 20 h 09
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      Quoting: Viqsi
      I haven't been watching Vancouver lately, but I keep hearing that supposedly Miller is looking like a capable NHL-level center of late. If and only if that is true, this deal could work for the Jackets. Otherwise, it doesn't.


      Quoting: Viqsi
      I haven't been watching Vancouver lately, but I keep hearing that supposedly Miller is looking like a capable NHL-level center of late. If and only if that is true, this deal could work for the Jackets. Otherwise, it doesn't.


      Miller is a very capable center . I am not a fan of the media but even they suggest making Miller Canucks center and moving Pettersson to wing
       
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