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Trading up into top five of 2021 Draft

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Date de création initiale: 3 mai 2021
Publié: 3 mai 2021
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Rangers are loaded at wing and need to add a centre. Matty Beniers may be the best option. Who says yes to these trade offers? Or what is the counter?
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NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
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1st overall pick in 2021
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  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
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20th overall in 2021
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
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2nd overall pick in 2021
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    SAME PACKAGE: Kravtsov plus New York Rangers 1st pick in 2021 (20th overall)
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    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (SEA)
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      SAME PACKAGE: Kravtsov plus New York Rangers 1st pick in 2021 (20th overall)
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      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
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        SAME PACKAGE: Kravtsov plus New York Rangers 1st pick in 2021 (20th overall)
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        1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
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          3 mai 2021 à 8 h 56
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          Devils don't need Kravstov so no thanks
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 4
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          Quoting: Devil1122
          Devils don't need Kravstov so no thanks


          Devils RW depth is now? Holtz, then what?

          I would have though Ducks and Devils would immediately accept since they need scoring
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 13
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          First thing is-
          We cant trade with you!
          Its the only thing I did not like with Shero
          I was content with it, you guys had your guys, we had ours.
          Any move that makes the other team better is horrible

          I do think you are right, we need top line wingers and a whole new D save 2 guys or so.
          Gifting (it is in my eyes) you Beniers or similar even for Krav hurts too much.
          Lets go back to hating each others team, with respect of course ; )
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 14
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244
          Devils RW depth is now? Holtz, then what?

          I would have though Ducks and Devils would immediately accept since they need scoring


          There is no way of knowing that Kravtsov is as good as his draft position. The only way that a team is trading a top five pick is if it is for a proven commodity, a proven goal scorer, which he is not. Kravtsov has three points in 16 games. Who is trading that high of a pick for a prospect and the 20th pick in a very thin draft class?
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 20
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244
          Devils RW depth is now? Holtz, then what?

          I would have though Ducks and Devils would immediately accept since they need scoring


          Holtz, Mercer, Bratt

          We need defense more than RW and we're definitely not giving a top 5 pick to a rival
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 31
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244
          Devils RW depth is now? Holtz, then what?

          I would have though Ducks and Devils would immediately accept since they need scoring


          devils forward depth is absurd. we don't need kravy or ur first. we would like to select luke hughes or brandt clarke at 3/4 to complete our defensive core of
          smith - hughes
          mukh - walsh
          sieg - okhty

          to answer your first question, our forward core down the road is
          sharan - hughes - holtz
          zacha - hischier - bratt
          foote - kuok - mercer
          bastian - moynihan - wood

          so i think we're set. we're keeping this year's first, and if anything, we'll trade up to select jack, our franchise cornerstone, 's brother luke.


          your trade is fair in value it just doesn't meet our needs or desires.
          we'd happily accept trading our late round pick (NYI) and spare parts for someone of k'andre or nils caliber.
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 34
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          No one is trading #1 overall for #20 and Kravstov....
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 35
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          Quoting: Smitty426
          First thing is-
          We cant trade with you!
          Its the only thing I did not like with Shero
          I was content with it, you guys had your guys, we had ours.
          Any move that makes the other team better is horrible

          I do think you are right, we need top line wingers and a whole new D save 2 guys or so.
          Gifting (it is in my eyes) you Beniers or similar even for Krav hurts too much.
          Lets go back to hating each others team, with respect of course ; )


          I don't hate your team. Why should Rangers fans even worry about Devils? Our window is now and yours, if it ever arrives, would be 3-5 years down the road.
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 35
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          Counter for Van — Nils Lundkvist + NYR 1st for Van 1st
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 37
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          Quoting: Devil1122
          Holtz, Mercer, Bratt

          We need defense more than RW and we're definitely not giving a top 5 pick to a rival


          So maybe we add Hajek? (also, Islanders are our rival. Not Devils).
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 38
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          Quoting: cperk92
          There is no way of knowing that Kravtsov is as good as his draft position. The only way that a team is trading a top five pick is if it is for a proven commodity, a proven goal scorer, which he is not. Kravtsov has three points in 16 games. Who is trading that high of a pick for a prospect and the 20th pick in a very thin draft class?


          He lit KHL on fire this year and is generally seen as the best RW prospect in the game. But ok.
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 40
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          LMAO not a chance any of those teams even consider those weak offers
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 40
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          These are dreadful, there is a big dropoff in certainty in this draft, and the 20th pick could easily become a player who with adequate scouting should have gone in the 2nd or 3rd.
          Kravtsov looks talented, but does not make up the gap in value as it is unclear what he can produce when handed big minutes and responsibility. Try Top 5 pick for Pick 20 and Kakko perhaps.
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 40
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          Quoting: sedin33
          Counter for Van — Nils Lundkvist + NYR 1st for Van 1st


          That will work if Beniers or Clarke is still available when Canucks pick
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 40
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          Quoting: sedin33
          Counter for Van — Nils Lundkvist + NYR 1st for Van 1st


          If Berniers was available I’d do it. We’d still have Schneider and Robertson in the pipeline. But there’s no way Berniers is available at 5. I think he goes 3rd latest.

          Quoting: Devil1122
          Holtz, Mercer, Bratt

          We need defense more than RW and we're definitely not giving a top 5 pick to a rival


          That makes sense.

          Quoting: Smitty426
          First thing is-
          We cant trade with you!
          Its the only thing I did not like with Shero
          I was content with it, you guys had your guys, we had ours.
          Any move that makes the other team better is horrible

          I do think you are right, we need top line wingers and a whole new D save 2 guys or so.
          Gifting (it is in my eyes) you Beniers or similar even for Krav hurts too much.
          Lets go back to hating each others team, with respect of course ; )


          That seems kind of immature. Only a child hates another team for no reason cause your a rival. Just cause the Rangers and Devils or Isles are rivals doesn’t mean I hate the other team. Seems sort of ridiculous.
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 41
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244
          So maybe we add Hajek? (also, Islanders are our rival. Not Devils).


          If Hajek is seen as useless by organization, pretty sure other teams will feel the same.
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 43
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244z
          So maybe we add Hajek? (also, Islanders are our rival. Not Devils).


          Lmao hajek is awful no team would take him if he was free
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 44
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          Quoting: Seider53
          These are dreadful, there is a big dropoff in certainty in this draft, and the 20th pick could easily become a player who with adequate scouting should have gone in the 2nd or 3rd.
          Kravtsov looks talented, but does not make up the gap in value as it is unclear what he can produce when handed big minutes and responsibility. Try Top 5 pick for Pick 20 and Kakko perhaps.


          You may not follow prospects closely (maybe you do). But Kravtsov is about as highly rated as they get. So I think the value is there. And many Ranger fans see Kravtsov as eventually passing Kakko on our depth chart.
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 46
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          Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
          If Hajek is seen as useless by organization, pretty sure other teams will feel the same.


          Quoting: Bigboi69
          Lmao hajek is awful no team would take him if he was free


          Look at the Devils defense. I'd think they would need him. Maybe Rykov or Skinner instead.
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 49
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244
          Look at the Devils defense. I'd think they would need him. Maybe Rykov or Skinner instead.


          You’re clearly trolling cause those guys don’t have much of an nhl future. Hajek at best might be worth a 4th round pick at best.
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 52
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244
          Devils RW depth is now? Holtz, then what?

          I would have though Ducks and Devils would immediately accept since they need scoring


          Just value wise the Sabres would laugh the rangers out of the building for that offer. To grab a first overall pick, you can’t just throw a prospect and a 20th overall at a team. Something major has to go the other way. There are only two pieces that would get the Sabres front office to even meet. Lafreniere, and kakko. Well, obviously fox too but the rangers aren’t trading him.
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          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 55
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          Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
          You’re clearly trolling cause those guys don’t have much of an nhl future. Hajek at best might be worth a 4th round pick at best.


          This would be to add to existing trade ...so 20th overall plus Kravtsov plus d-man for 4th overall pick. (Not dman for 4th).
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 56
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244
          This would be to add to existing trade ...so 20th overall plus Kravtsov plus d-man for 4th overall pick. (Not dman for 4th).


          Hajek doesn’t move the needle though.
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 56
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          Quoting: CMcAvoy73
          Just value wise the Sabres would laugh the rangers out of the building for that offer. To grab a first overall pick, you can’t just throw a prospect and a 20th overall at a team. Something major has to go the other way. There are only two pieces that would get the Sabres front office to even meet. Lafreniere, and kakko. Well, obviously fox too but the rangers aren’t trading him.


          Fox and Laf stay in New York, but I'd be open to Kakko for their 1st overall pick.
          3 mai 2021 à 9 h 57
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          Quoting: NYRFan92360244
          You may not follow prospects closely (maybe you do). But Kravtsov is about as highly rated as they get. So I think the value is there. And many Ranger fans see Kravtsov as eventually passing Kakko on our depth chart.


          I'm not necesserily the best versed on the rangers prospect pool, but his D+2 season in the AHL did not look good in the slightest, and in his 3 games in the NHL in his D+3 year he has 3 points.
          You may argue that he is playing down the depth chart, which has some validity, but then if he is that talented, why is he not forcing himself up the depth chart?
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