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Créé par: Sayburrz
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 2 mai 2021
Publié: 2 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3750 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
2925 000 $
34 000 000 $
31 250 000 $
32 575 000 $
66 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 250 000 $
13 000 000 $
24 000 000 $
28 000 000 $
28 000 000 $
1900 000 $
36 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
    Future considerations
    2.
    3.
    BOS
    1. Girgensons, Zemgus (1 100 000 $ retained)
    4.
    ANA
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
    5.
    VGK
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
    6.
    BUF
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
    7.
    BUF
    1. Byfield, Quinton
    2. Iafallo, Alex
    3. Lemieux, Brendan
    4. MacDermid, Kurtis
    5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
    6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
    7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
    8. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
    LAK
    1. Eichel, Jack
    2. Olofsson, Victor
    3. Pekar, Matej
    4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Enfoui
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2021
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de FLA
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de COL
    Logo de BUF
    2022
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de WSH
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    2023
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de LAK
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    Logo de BUF
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2382 500 000 $74 336 138 $113 916 $850 000 $8 163 862 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 8
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    2 575 000 $2 575 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 3
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    925 000 $925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Bruins de Boston
    800 000 $800 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
    1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 7
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    889 166 $889 166 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
    875 000 $875 000 $
    DG/DD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Équipe de réserve
    Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
    894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
    AG, C
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    C
    RFA
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    1 600 000 $1 600 000 $ (475 000 $$475K475 000 $$475K)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    778 333 $778 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    G
    RFA - 1
    900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    853 333 $853 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    DD
    UFA - 2

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    2 mai 2021 à 16 h 45
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    No thank you.
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    2 mai 2021 à 16 h 47
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    Few questions here, and I’m not even going to touch the big trade:
    1. What’s the logic behind the bruins move?
    2. Why does RNH take 2x8? As the premier UFA center, it’s likely he’ll be getting six or seven years at pretty similar money. Factor in that no NHL player is going to go to buffalo if they can avoid it, the Sabres would have to overpay. I think to get RNH in buffalo the cost is probably 7x9.5, so you’re about 50 million light.
    3. Dougie for 3x6? Seriously. Same thing with RNH. About 50 million dollar short.
    4. Same with landeskog. Why are these guys taking a discount to go to the most miserable place in the league to be right now?
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    2 mai 2021 à 16 h 49
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    That Dougie contract is a joke
    2 mai 2021 à 16 h 55
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    Why are the Sabres adding more than Eichel in that LA deal
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    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 0
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    Chicago hard passes.
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    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 5
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Few questions here, and I’m not even going to touch the big trade:
    1. What’s the logic behind the bruins move?
    2. Why does RNH take 2x8? As the premier UFA center, it’s likely he’ll be getting six or seven years at pretty similar money. Factor in that no NHL player is going to go to buffalo if they can avoid it, the Sabres would have to overpay. I think to get RNH in buffalo the cost is probably 7x9.5, so you’re about 50 million light.
    3. Dougie for 3x6? Seriously. Same thing with RNH. About 50 million dollar short.
    4. Same with landeskog. Why are these guys taking a discount to go to the most miserable place in the league to be right now?



    Agree heartily with everything you said here EXCEPT about Nugent-Hopkins' value. Dude is certainly not worth a 9.5m AAV, and any team who paid him that for 7 years would have to be completely nuts.
    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 7
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    Vegas jumps at all that before you come to your senses. Chicago angrily declines.
    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 16
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    Why is buf giving a 2nd for reavestears of joy BIG OVERPAY
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    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 18
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Agree heartily with everything you said here EXCEPT about Nugent-Hopkins' value. Dude is certainly not worth a 9.5m AAV, and any team who paid him that for 7 years would have to be completely nuts.


    Well, notice i never said he was worth 9.5 i just think that could be the amount of money that would get him to buffalo. Truthfully, I’m guessing he wouldn’t even talk to buffalo, but for the sake of argument he’s probably worth 7x7-7.5. Again for the sake of argument lets take the high side of that. Then factor in that he will definitely be the top center on the UFA market, and all of a sudden its not crazy to think 8 million is out there. THEN factor in that there’s a team with 0 dollars committed to any player that’s in a kinda cool tax free market, and I’m thinking it will take a big enough overpay to get RNH to consider buffalo that they might have to talk about 9.5
    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 19
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    Everyone already knows that being sent to Buffalo means that you aren’t wanted. Most of the guys that you have grabbed either via free agency or by trades are going to be players that their respective teams want
    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 30
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Agree heartily with everything you said here EXCEPT about Nugent-Hopkins' value. Dude is certainly not worth a 9.5m AAV, and any team who paid him that for 7 years would have to be completely nuts.


    With Seattle coming on to the scene and so many C desperate teams, nothing would surprise me, but yeah I think $9.5 is an awful lot.
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    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 42
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    Everything here is a joke
    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 47
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Well, notice i never said he was worth 9.5 i just think that could be the amount of money that would get him to buffalo. Truthfully, I’m guessing he wouldn’t even talk to buffalo, but for the sake of argument he’s probably worth 7x7-7.5. Again for the sake of argument lets take the high side of that. Then factor in that he will definitely be the top center on the UFA market, and all of a sudden its not crazy to think 8 million is out there. THEN factor in that there’s a team with 0 dollars committed to any player that’s in a kinda cool tax free market, and I’m thinking it will take a big enough overpay to get RNH to consider buffalo that they might have to talk about 9.5



    Fair enough on the first sentence. But is he really the clear best C available? He's absolutely garbage on draws. He's never scored 30 goals or posted a PPG, and nearly half his points come on the PP. He's typically under 50% Corsi & Fenwick, if not well under, despite having over 55% of his career starts in the O-zone. Frankly, even coming off a down offensive season, I'd rather have Danault on my team. And even if RNH is the best UFA C available, it's not like there's much competition at all that isn't like 35. It's a pretty empty designation and a contract like that will soon enough be on all the worst anchor contract lists.
    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 50
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Fair enough on the first sentence. But is he really the clear best C available? He's absolutely garbage on draws. He's never scored 30 goals or posted a PPG, and nearly half his points come on the PP. He's typically under 50% Corsi & Fenwick, if not well under, despite having over 55% of his career starts in the O-zone. Frankly, even coming off a down offensive season, I'd rather have Danault on my team. And even if RNH is the best UFA C available, it's not like there's much competition at all that isn't like 35. It's a pretty empty designation and a contract like that will soon enough be on all the worst anchor contract lists.


    Exactly. When theres only one real top six center available, that breeds bidding wars.
    2 mai 2021 à 17 h 57
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    Hawks won't touch that trade
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    2 mai 2021 à 18 h 1
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Exactly. When theres only one real top six center available, that breeds bidding wars.



    Yeah... among bad, dumb teams. It's not like RNH is going to put a Buffalo over the top or anything, they certainly have enough time to wait for what will be a far, far juicier C class in '22.

    But yeah, I guess that's why Buffalo is still a Buffalo. tears of joy
    2 mai 2021 à 18 h 8
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    Yeah... among bad, dumb teams. It's not like RNH is going to put a Buffalo over the top or anything, they certainly have enough time to wait for what will be a far, far juicier C class in '22.

    But yeah, I guess that's why Buffalo is still a Buffalo. tears of joy


    By no means am i saying its a fit for either party. I jsut think it’s what it would take to get RNH to consider buffalo
    2 mai 2021 à 18 h 12
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    If bruins had wanted Zemgus, they woulda gotten him instead so that shoulda been an obvious no lmao
    2 mai 2021 à 19 h 0
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    Chicago hard passes.


    Yeah but because it’s the Hawks they miss that hard pass and Buffalo comes down on a 2 on 1 and scores their third goal in 2 minutes.
    2 mai 2021 à 22 h 22
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    Quoting: FourthLiner
    If bruins had wanted Zemgus, they woulda gotten him instead so that shoulda been an obvious no lmao


    Hes on LTIR so not necessarily
    3 mai 2021 à 0 h 9
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    I think that this is a sincere, if at times misplaced, effort.

    To begin with, I think that no one can argue (and, I note, no one has argued) that the Seattle, Anaheim, Las Vegas and Washington trades are reasonable value, whether or not the teams would make them. (I personally will never trade Nic DesLauriers even though people offer entirely sensible assets for him.)

    The Los Angeles trade is particularly interesting for me. Personally, I would weed out all the window dressing. (I think that Iafallo with his recent contract extension is more valuable to us than Olofsson, Lemieux is probably worth more than Pekar, and MacDermid is probably fair value for moving a 2023 third to a 2021 third, so let's call that all a wash after allowing for homer bias.) We're left with Byfield and a first and two seconds for Eichel. This is awfully close to a deal I think a real NHL GM would accept, from either side.

    Buffalo adherents seem to me to have a very high valuation on Eichel, and in this light, I think that the OP has to be commended for getting out there and publishing this proposed exchange which very few of his comrades will approve. I might or might not like it or agree with it, but I admire @Sayburrz for posting it.
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    3 mai 2021 à 13 h 18
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Hes on LTIR so not necessarily


    they still dont wanna do it lmao. very happy with lazar
     
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