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Gio going to Seattle forces us into retool Part 2

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2021 NHL Draft- 3rd overall (+9)- Brandt Clarke
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1 mai 2021 à 0 h 20
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How do we know he is taken though?
1 mai 2021 à 0 h 27
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They arent taking Gio unless paid to and Calgary's not gon a do that. Even if Gio goes to Seattle that wont trigger a rebuild, it just opens up cap space. Debrusk does not have that kind of value
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1 mai 2021 à 0 h 34
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They arent taking Gio unless paid to and Calgary's not gon a do that. Even if Gio goes to Seattle that wont trigger a rebuild, it just opens up cap space. Debrusk does not have that kind of value


Why do you think they wouldn't take him? I certainly would if he were left available. He's a respected player, leader, and still has plenty of talent. That's a guy you could probably get a solid deal for as a rental with money retained.
1 mai 2021 à 0 h 47
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Why do you think they wouldn't take him? I certainly would if he were left available. He's a respected player, leader, and still has plenty of talent. That's a guy you could probably get a solid deal for as a rental with money retained.


I guess, but at 1 year left and very clear regression I think they grab someone younger. Besides their D-core is going to be stacked regardless
1 mai 2021 à 0 h 58
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I guess, but at 1 year left and very clear regression I think they grab someone younger. Besides their D-core is going to be stacked regardless


I think the value they could get for Giordano is probably more than what they'll get out of a different, younger player. Could see a 1st round pick + coming back to them. Doesn't feel like there's much downside to picking him. Easy selection if he's left available, imo.
1 mai 2021 à 1 h 13
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Why do you think they wouldn't take him? I certainly would if he were left available. He's a respected player, leader, and still has plenty of talent. That's a guy you could probably get a solid deal for as a rental with money retained.


I'd pick Välimaki instead of him. Tanev-Hanifin-Andersson will be protected
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I'd pick Välimaki instead of him. Tanev-Hanifin-Andersson will be protected


Valimaki is exempt
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1 mai 2021 à 1 h 14
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I'd pick Välimaki instead of him. Tanev-Hanifin-Andersson will be protected


He's exempt
1 mai 2021 à 1 h 20
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He's exempt


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Valimaki is exempt


My bad I thought he was not but I guess the season he missed doesn't count as a year.
1 mai 2021 à 1 h 29
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I think the value they could get for Giordano is probably more than what they'll get out of a different, younger player. Could see a 1st round pick + coming back to them. Doesn't feel like there's much downside to picking him. Easy selection if he's left available, imo.


I guess, I feel like Calgary will end up paying a 3rd to protect him tbh. Then they probably take Kylington or Gawdin
1 mai 2021 à 1 h 35
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I guess, I feel like Calgary will end up paying a 3rd to protect him tbh. Then they probably take Kylington or Gawdin


I'd try to swing a deal to keep him if I were Calgary, but as Seattle, I'd be asking for more than a 3rd.
1 mai 2021 à 4 h 34
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I'd try to swing a deal to keep him if I were Calgary, but as Seattle, I'd be asking for more than a 3rd.


Idk if its really worth more to protect him than that for the Flames. Hanifin has established himself as the #1 LD moving forward for the time being and Valimaki could probably learn a lot more next to Tanev on the 2nd pair next year. I personally feel Gio would be manning the 3rd pair PK and some PP time. He definitely cant keep playing 24 minutes a night (in Sutters interview after the Edmonton game he even said Gio and Tanev played too much, but that's also due to loosing Hanifin for the year), I would say 18 minutes max by next season. Like Boston did with Chara.
1 mai 2021 à 11 h 18
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Idk if its really worth more to protect him than that for the Flames. Hanifin has established himself as the #1 LD moving forward for the time being and Valimaki could probably learn a lot more next to Tanev on the 2nd pair next year. I personally feel Gio would be manning the 3rd pair PK and some PP time. He definitely cant keep playing 24 minutes a night (in Sutters interview after the Edmonton game he even said Gio and Tanev played too much, but that's also due to loosing Hanifin for the year), I would say 18 minutes max by next season. Like Boston did with Chara.


I think you're right. There's certainly a limit to what I'd pay to keep him. But from a Seattle perspective, I don't think a 3rd is gonna cut it. I think the best option for them is to pick Gio and flip him.
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