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Créé par: SevenLeg

Équipe: 2021-22 Golden Knights de Vegas

Date de création initiale: 28 avr. 2021

Publié: 28 avr. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Coghlan, Dylan		1	750 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Cole, Ian		1	2 000 000 $

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VGK

Monahan, Sean

CGY

Tuch, Alex

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I've seen this idea earlier, but I think it's closer to a 1-for-1-trade value-wise or maybe with a modest addition on Vegas' side because of Monahan's position.

Tuch : 2.28 P/60, 1.25 xG/60, 55.6 xG%
Monahan : 2.05 P/60, 0.94 xG/60, 50.8 xG%

On a three-year span I do give the edge to Monahan, but, on the other hand, Tuch is more of a late bloomer and Calgary may be tempted to shake up if they miss the playoffs.

VGK

Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (BUF)

Détails additionnels:

Decent depth defenseman with a slightly inflated cap hit. Any team

BUF

Holden, Nick
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CHI)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	77 429 105 $	285 772 $	1 262 500 $	4 070 895 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Pacioretty, Max 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 6 375 000 $6 375 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Stone, Mark 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 6
Marchessault, Jonathan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Karlsson, William 5 900 000 $5 900 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 6	Smith, Reilly 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Krebs, Peyton 863 333 $863 333 $ (412 500 $$412K) C, AG RFA - 3	Stephenson, Chandler 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Glass, Cody 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) C, AD RFA - 1
Carrier, William 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ AG UFA - 3	Roy, Nicolas 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Kolesar, Keegan 725 000 $725 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
McNabb, Brayden 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Pietrangelo, Alex 8 800 000 $8 800 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	Fleury, Marc-André 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Theodore, Shea 5 200 000 $5 200 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	Whitecloud, Zach 725 000 $725 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Lehner, Robin 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 4
Hague, Nicolas 791 667 $791 667 $ DG RFA - 1	Cole, Ian 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Coghlan, Dylan 750 000 $750 000 $ DD RFA - 2
Reaves, Ryan 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AD UFA - 1

28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 15

Skyraider112

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I think that would be a mistake for Vegas. Tuch is locked up longer and is a better player imo, especially come playoffs

28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 18

PhatRas

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I don't disagree that it's fairly close with the contract giving the edge to Tuch likely. The big reason I tried to include Smith in the earlier deal is that this goes the opposite direction in terms of helping VEgas with their cap situation. I could potentially see Calgary retaining on Monahan with it only being 2 years left on the deal.

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28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 19

palhal

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Gee, Monahan has been meh for two seasons. Vegas keeps the younger, longer term, better cap hit Tuch over the Monahan easily.

28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 30

SevenLeg

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Quoting: PhatRas

I don't think Vegas' cap situation is that bad. I paid a luxury 6th dman 2m$ and I kept Fleury. It could even be possible to bring back Martinez and trade for Monahan if Fleury is dealt

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28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 30

SevenLeg

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Quoting: Skyraider112

I think that would be a mistake for Vegas. Tuch is locked up longer and is a better player imo, especially come playoffs

The lack of a prime offensive center could also bite them at some point

28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 31

nhn1405

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there is 0 reason vegas would do this

28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 32

nhn1405

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Quoting: SevenLeg

The lack of a prime offensive center could also bite them at some point

they have krebs, and monahan isn't very good. especially not for tuch, who's on an amazing contract for term and is a far better player

28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 32

SevenLeg

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Quoting: palhal

Gee, Monahan has been meh for two seasons. Vegas keeps the younger, longer term, better cap hit Tuch over the Monahan easily.

I wouldn't say "meh". He's still a high-caliber center who has not exceeded the expectations set by his previous seasons. When I think of "meh" centers, Duchene, Johansen or D. Strome, not Monahan

28 avr. 2021 à 13 h 34

SevenLeg

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Quoting: nhn1405

they have krebs, and monahan isn't very good. especially not for tuch, who's on an amazing contract for term and is a far better player

Not sure if Krebs will be better than Monahan during the next three years or so. You're either way overvaluing Krebs or way undervaluing Monahan.

28 avr. 2021 à 14 h 21

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Michael

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As a Flames fan I would strongly consider this trade given that the Flames are looking for a winger although Tuch isn't right handed shooting. I wonder if we would see a conditional pick involved along the same lines of the Lucic/Neal trade pick where like if Monahan has x points and Tuch has x less, then CGY gets a 3rd or vice versa.

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28 avr. 2021 à 14 h 26

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Tjm220

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Quoting: Michael

Tuch is a right hand shot.

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28 avr. 2021 à 15 h 17

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: palhal

Gee, Monahan has been meh for two seasons. Vegas keeps the younger, longer term, better cap hit Tuch over the Monahan easily.

Monahan's also been playing injured tbis season, likely getting surgery in the offseason

28 avr. 2021 à 18 h 21

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Quoting: Michael

Lol Tuch is right handed and plays 2-3 mins less than Monahan a night. No thanks

28 avr. 2021 à 18 h 47

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Skyraider112

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Quoting: SevenLeg

The lack of a prime offensive center could also bite them at some point

I don't see it that way. They have Glass and Krebs who could be that for them. They have so much offense from their wingers and D that having a super offensive center isn't really necessary

28 avr. 2021 à 18 h 53

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SevenLeg

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Quoting: Skyraider112

I don't see it that way. They have Glass and Krebs who could be that for them. They have so much offense from their wingers and D that having a super offensive center isn't really necessary

You're optimistic if you think Krebs could be as good as Monahan in the next 3 years. Cody Glass has played 66 games and is below replacement level

28 avr. 2021 à 21 h 17

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Quoting: SevenLeg

Not sure if Krebs will be better than Monahan during the next three years or so. You're either way overvaluing Krebs or way undervaluing Monahan.

krebs should be a 2C in ~2 years, probably third line calibre next year

monahan is a 2c like.... at best. doesn't drive play at a high level, no standout physical traits, isn't a lethal goal scorer or premier defensive guy.

ig it depends who you ask but his contract is an overpayment imo

29 avr. 2021 à 0 h 12

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Quoting: SevenLeg

You're optimistic if you think Krebs could be as good as Monahan in the next 3 years. Cody Glass has played 66 games and is below replacement level

Krebs will be a more valuable player imo. I see him as a 50 point guy but he has way more heart and hustle than Monahan.

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