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Taking the Next Step

Créé par: PodkolzinTheGoat
Date de création initiale: 25 avr. 2021
Publié: 26 avr. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Podkolzin, Vasily3925 000 $
Tryamkin, Nikita11 200 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bailey, Justin1750 000 $
Brisebois, Guillaume1750 000 $
Hawryluk, Jayce1800 000 $
Jasek, Lukas1750 000 $
Juolevi, Olli1850 000 $
Lind, Kole1850 000 $
Michaelis, Marc1750 000 $
Hughes, Quinn37 000 000 $
Pettersson, Elias37 000 000 $
Bertuzzi, Tyler34 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Chatfield, Jalen1750 000 $
Graovac, Tyler1750 000 $
Sautner, Ashton1750 000 $
Sutter, Brandon11 500 000 $
Hakanpää, Jani23 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
    SEA
    1. Roussel, Antoine
    2. 2021 2e round pick (VAN)
    Détails additionnels:
    Seattle receives a 2nd in 21' for taking on the final year of Roussel
    2.
    VAN
    1. Robinson, Eric
    CBJ
    1. MacEwen, Zack
    2. 2021 5e round pick (VAN)
    3.
    VAN
    1. Bertuzzi, Tyler [Droits de RFA]
    DET
    1. Lockwood, William
    2. Karlsson, Linus [Liste de réserve]
    3. 2022 1e round pick (VAN)
    Détails additionnels:
    The 1st round pick in 22' is top 10 protected
    Rachats de contrats
    • Loui Eriksson: 4 000 000 $
    • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
    Frais appliqués
    • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
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    Logo de VAN
    Logo de CHI
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    Logo de WPG
    Logo de VAN
    2022
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    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2481 500 000 $83 225 659 $648 780 $1 900 000 $-1 725 659 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Bertuzzi, Tyler
    4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de VAN
    Pettersson, Elias
    7 000 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 3
    Logo de VAN
    Boeser, Brock
    5 875 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Höglander, Nils
    891 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de VAN
    Miller, J.T.
    5 250 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de VAN
    Podkolzin, Vasily
    925 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de VAN
    Pearson, Tanner
    3 250 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de VAN
    Horvat, Bo
    5 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de VAN
    Motte, Tyler
    1 225 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de CBJ
    Robinson, Eric
    975 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Sutter, Brandon
    1 500 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Lind, Kole
    850 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Highmore, Matthew
    725 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Hawryluk, Jayce
    800 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de VAN
    Hughes, Quinn
    7 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 6
    Hakanpää, Jani
    3 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de VAN
    Demko, Thatcher
    5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 5
    Logo de VAN
    Rathbone, Jack
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Schmidt, Nate
    5 950 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de VAN
    Holtby, Braden
    4 300 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Juolevi, Olli
    850 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Myers, Tyler
    6 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de VAN
    Holtby, Braden
    2 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de VAN
    Tryamkin, Nikita
    1 200 000 $
    DG
    RFA
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de VAN
    Ferland, Micheal
    3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de VAN
    Beagle, Jay
    3 000 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Boeser, B.
    Miller, J.
    Höglander, N.
    Hughes, Q.
    Pettersson, E.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Bertuzzi, T.
    Horvat, B.
    Pearson, T.
    Schmidt, N.
    Rathbone, J.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Sutter, B.
    Motte, T.
    Schmidt, N.
    Hakanpää, J.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Horvat, B.
    Podkolzin, V.
    Juolevi, O.
    Myers, T.

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    26 avr. 2021 à 0 h 13
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    I’m not a fan of the Bertuzzi trade for either side really. Bertuzzi doesn’t push the Vancouver team we’ve seen this year over the top, plus injury concerns now. Detroit doesn’t see enough value in the return either with that first being top ten protected, at least from my point of view believing that Bert is a solid guy in that room and on the ice when healthy.
    26 avr. 2021 à 0 h 21
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    So that bertuzzi trade, lets just call a spade a spade and say its just for a first. Those two prospects are nothing. If it has any chance of going through that pick can’t be protected.
    26 avr. 2021 à 0 h 35
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    Quoting: pavelisgoat
    I’m not a fan of the Bertuzzi trade for either side really. Bertuzzi doesn’t push the Vancouver team we’ve seen this year over the top, plus injury concerns now. Detroit doesn’t see enough value in the return either with that first being top ten protected, at least from my point of view believing that Bert is a solid guy in that room and on the ice when healthy.


    Mantha was a solid guy in the room and even better on the ice and he was dealt... Bertuzzi is a year older. Vancouver likely isn't going to be a bottom ten team next year anyways so the protection is extra insurance. Adding another top six forward for this Canucks team will do wonders.
    26 avr. 2021 à 0 h 40
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    So that bertuzzi trade, lets just call a spade a spade and say its just for a first. Those two prospects are nothing. If it has any chance of going through that pick can’t be protected.


    I can tell you aren't a Canucks fan or know anything about our team when you call those two prospects nothing. Most Canuck fans will hate me for suggesting we trade Lockwood who has all the tools to become a middle six energizer bunny and Karlsson is currently a point per game in the Allsvenskan which is the highest for a U21 player. Do your research next time
    26 avr. 2021 à 1 h 4
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    Quoting: PodkolzinTheGoat
    I can tell you aren't a Canucks fan or know anything about our team when you call those two prospects nothing. Most Canuck fans will hate me for suggesting we trade Lockwood who has all the tools to become a middle six energizer bunny and Karlsson is currently a point per game in the Allsvenskan which is the highest for a U21 player. Do your research next time


    Oh heavens to Betsy. He’s turning 23 pretty soon after a really mediocre NCAA career. He isn’t exactly ripping up the AHL either. He’s undersized. Just so very, “meh,” at best. Karlsson is playing in Sweden’s tier 2 league. Couldn’t be less impressed.
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    26 avr. 2021 à 1 h 22
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    Yeah I want dipietro with the first if it's protected not those guys
    26 avr. 2021 à 1 h 32
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    Quoting: Jfstompers
    Yeah I want dipietro with the first if it's protected not those guys


    Good to know. I thought hard on including DiPietro but a 1st plus him is a steep price. Not saying I personally wouldn't do it but it is a lot.
    26 avr. 2021 à 1 h 56
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Oh heavens to Betsy. He’s turning 23 pretty soon after a really mediocre NCAA career. He isn’t exactly ripping up the AHL either. He’s undersized. Just so very, “meh,” at best. Karlsson is playing in Sweden’s tier 2 league. Couldn’t be less impressed.


    Quoting: PodkolzinTheGoat
    I can tell you aren't a Canucks fan or know anything about our team when you call those two prospects nothing. Most Canuck fans will hate me for suggesting we trade Lockwood who has all the tools to become a middle six energizer bunny and Karlsson is currently a point per game in the Allsvenskan which is the highest for a U21 player. Do your research next time


    I'm a Canucks fan and Karlsson and Lockwood are basically nothing prospects. Sure they both have a chance at cracking the NHL but most likely as 4th liners if they make it at all. You never really know and there's always guys that surprise and become effective NHLers but every team in the league have prospects like those 2 and most of them won't turn into much of anything at the NHL level.
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    26 avr. 2021 à 3 h 1
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    Quoting: PodkolzinTheGoat
    Mantha was a solid guy in the room and even better on the ice and he was dealt... Bertuzzi is a year older. Vancouver likely isn't going to be a bottom ten team next year anyways so the protection is extra insurance. Adding another top six forward for this Canucks team will do wonders.


    Yeah Mantha was and is a great player but look at the return he got... twice this at least. Also Mantha was a bit lazy at times and I’m sure is great on a good team (heck I never wanted to deal him with the firm belief that he can really dominate the playoffs), but on a poor and building team he doesn’t always bring it like you want your young guys to learn from, Bert does. I think the return would have to be like top 5 protected and a better prospect like Dipietro was mentioned. What it adds for Vancouver, maybe I am more concerned with potentially lingering injury issues for Bertuzzi and I’m not comvinced he’ll play a full season next year
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    26 avr. 2021 à 9 h 16
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    I'm not seeing the benefit for the Jackets in that Robinson trade, frankly.
    26 avr. 2021 à 14 h 21
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    Quoting: PodkolzinTheGoat
    I can tell you aren't a Canucks fan or know anything about our team when you call those two prospects nothing. Most Canuck fans will hate me for suggesting we trade Lockwood who has all the tools to become a middle six energizer bunny and Karlsson is currently a point per game in the Allsvenskan which is the highest for a U21 player. Do your research next time


    For Detroit, if you look at their prospect cupboard they need quality not quantity. A middle six energy guy, great we have multiple of those already and could easily pick another with the 22 picks over the next 2 drafts. With Karlsson the concern is that he is playing in the Allsvenskan, so again isn't projecting to be a piece that Detroit needs as such. So in essence the trade is for the 1st, and I wouldn't do that for Bertuzzi honestly. The value could be fine, but the fit is not.
    28 avr. 2021 à 0 h 52
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    Quoting: Viqsi
    I'm not seeing the benefit for the Jackets in that Robinson trade, frankly.


    They get a guy a year younger and another pick. For a rebuilding team, Robinson is likely expendable
    28 avr. 2021 à 8 h 28
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    Quoting: PodkolzinTheGoat
    They get a guy a year younger and another pick. For a rebuilding team, Robinson is likely expendable

    A year younger with less than a third of the NHL experience or production and a late pick. Yes, Robinson is potentially expendable, but if we're going to move him it ought to at least get us something halfway decent rather than a downgrade and a used lottery ticket.
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