It will take a lot more than a 4th to move subban.

I thought so too, but didn’t want to overpay and it’s only 1 year

And it’s 8 million dollars in cash.

Fair enough. How much then? A third? Second? What would be worth it for Seattle?

My guess is Seattle says a first, devils say no way, and they move on. 2nd minimum though. San Jose got a 4th for eating a quarter of foligno’s pro rated contract.

Devils aren't paying to get rid of Subban. If Seattle doesn't want him for free, then Devils can keep him

Nonsense.
Devils may expose Subban, but would not have to pay anything to move his contract.
Odds are greater that they re-sign him than they pay someone to take him.

Sure. Devils aren’t ready to compete anyway. I agree they should just keep him.

why would you take Ty Ronning? Hes an AHLer who hasnt played an NHL game all season

Settle down. Subban’s contract is definitely negative value. It would take a lot to move it. Whether or not the devils should is a different conversation.

Its not.
And they won't.

The NHL is a lot more fun when you live in reality. Bad contracts happen. Every team has them. Subban is a 2.5 million dollar player with a 9 cap hit. How is that not negative value?

Ronning is an AHLer that makes the team cap compliant. Not my first choice, but he’s the only forward that fits the teams cap needs. And I like Ty Ronning.

I’d give a 2nd for Seattle to take eakin or miller

Eakin and it’s a deal.

First of all, NJD needs Subban’s contract to hit salary floor. So not really anything they are worried about. Second, Subban was been their #3 d-man this year and is far better than a $2m player. Third, if teams traded this way, you’d have everyone selling low and buying high.

Debrusk has been playing like $800k player. Since he has negative value, would Bruins trade a pick to get him off their books? By your logic, they should.

Okay there seems to be something you’re missing here.

I don’t care whether or not the devils should do this. This isn’t something I made. I don’t care. You keep on making an argument I’ve never once refuted, or indicated i give a crap about.

The contract, in a vacuum, is unquestionably negative value. Subban isn’t good, and he’s paid like he’s elite.