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Créé par: Girouxsalem
Équipe: 2021-22 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 23 avr. 2021
Publié: 23 avr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Voracek dealt to Seatle w/ future picks. He's just bought out in this model
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
21 700 000 $
35 100 000 $
11 100 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
58 750 000 $
11 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Konecny, Travis
  3. van Riemsdyk, James
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
2022 2nd becomes 1st if Flyers make playoffs
2.
PHI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de TBL
Logo de VGK
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
2022
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de STL
2023
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $71 522 818 $0 $1 025 000 $9 977 182 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AD, AG, C
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
8 750 000 $8 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
RFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 550 000 $2 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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23 avr. 2021 à 14 h 29
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I don't think Calgary considers this. Moving Tkachuk is a massive move for them and kinda signals a rebuild. That said, the value isn't there for both of him and Gaudreau. I'd look at the break down like this:
Tkachuk = Konency, Frost, 2nd (undervalued Tkachuk)
Gaudreau = JVR (Gaudreau is worth far more than JVR)

Both of those players in a package would cost an extraordinary amount from a team and I don't think any team does it
23 avr. 2021 à 14 h 39
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Great trade partners at the draft, I don't think this is the move though. Personally I think Giordano is gone in expansion and Tkachuk is next in line for the C, he won't be moved. If the Flames are moving off of Gaudreau I think Konecny would be the piece they want back but that will cost Calgary significantly, a deal I would like to see is:

Gaudreau
Jakob Pelletier
2nd
3rd

Konecny
Patrick
23 avr. 2021 à 15 h 15
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Tkachuk would be a great Flyer, but contract length as ilklustarated above is a huge problem. Couterier, giroux, gaudreaux and tkachuk all up for contract at same time?

PHI wouldn;t do it, although I think deal slightly favours them. I think its a one or the other gaudreau or tkachuk, with TK being cost controlled as a 60 pt player, its tough.

CGY fans would want more, but TK, Uber prospect at center Morgan Frost and a 1st is probably close to Tkachuk. IMO Tk is equal to Gaudreau alone, based on contract and production.

If a deal was to9 happen, I think its more down to TK for Gaudreau OR TK, frost and a bit more for Tkachuk, not both.
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23 avr. 2021 à 15 h 49
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That is terrible, the flames don’t even pick up the phone this is so bad. It is pure garbage the flames easily reject. It’s crazy how terrible that trade is for Calgary. The flames probably won’t be trading either of those players they are going to give sutter a training camp before any big moves
23 avr. 2021 à 15 h 56
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Quoting: flamesfan
That is terrible, the flames don’t even pick up the phone this is so bad. It is pure garbage the flames easily reject. It’s crazy how terrible that trade is for Calgary. The flames probably won’t be trading either of those players they are going to give sutter a training camp before any big moves

So do you like this trade or not?
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21 juin 2021 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Tkachuk would be a great Flyer, but contract length as ilklustarated above is a huge problem. Couterier, giroux, gaudreaux and tkachuk all up for contract at same time?

PHI wouldn;t do it, although I think deal slightly favours them. I think its a one or the other gaudreau or tkachuk, with TK being cost controlled as a 60 pt player, its tough.

CGY fans would want more, but TK, Uber prospect at center Morgan Frost and a 1st is probably close to Tkachuk. IMO Tk is equal to Gaudreau alone, based on contract and production.

If a deal was to9 happen, I think its more down to TK for Gaudreau OR TK, frost and a bit more for Tkachuk, not both.


...Well said. I had the idea as a "oh my god you better win 3 stanley cups within 3 months" idea.
...but also, Seth Jones is destined to be a Flyer Legend so I'd adjust this entire team around that
21 juin 2021 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: PhatRas
Great trade partners at the draft, I don't think this is the move though. Personally I think Giordano is gone in expansion and Tkachuk is next in line for the C, he won't be moved. If the Flames are moving off of Gaudreau I think Konecny would be the piece they want back but that will cost Calgary significantly, a deal I would like to see is:

Gaudreau
Jakob Pelletier
2nd
3rd

Konecny
Patrick


2 questions:
1- is Pelletier a true center now? I scouted his game back in his draft year, dunno how he's progressed. (I only make that deal if he's ready to take on 3C role, if not beyond ready!) I did like his game, tho

2- you're in the right mind w/ calgary's motive to make Matt the C, it's easy to forget the kraken situation each team's facing
 
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