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21 avr. 2021 à 13 h 43
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You literally just did this trade an hour ago, and people were telling you nope.

Eichel would start with byfield. Period. If you byfield is untouchable. You don't have what it takes to land eichel.
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21 avr. 2021 à 13 h 54
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You literally just did this trade an hour ago, and people were telling you nope.

Eichel would start with byfield. Period. If you byfield is untouchable. You don't have what it takes to land eichel.


LA isn't trading Byfield for Eichel. No other team is in a position to offer a player as good as Byfield. Most other teams aren't in a position to offer a player as good as Turcotte.

Buffalo is welcome to keep Eichel until he's disgruntled and demands a trade to the destination of his choice once his NMC kicks in. When that happens, the return won't be nearly this good.
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21 avr. 2021 à 13 h 59
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
LA isn't trading Byfield for Eichel. No other team is in a position to offer a player as good as Byfield. Most other teams aren't in a position to offer a player as good as Turcotte.

Buffalo is welcome to keep Eichel until he's disgruntled and demands a trade to the destination of his choice once his NMC kicks in. When that happens, the return won't be nearly this good.


False.. we do but we won’t be trading them either. Kakko maybe laf not a chance. Buffalo fans just don’t realize they won’t be getting the byfield or laf, if they get 4 1sts it’s gonna be plays and some prospects... but not 1 and 2 OA
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21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 1
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Two blue chip prospects, 1-2 good roster players to balance cap, a mix of 1sts and 2nds depending on the quality of the aforementioned pieces. But he won't get traded unless he asks for one and even then, we do not have to trade him
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21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 7
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Two blue chip prospects, 1-2 good roster players to balance cap, a mix of 1sts and 2nds depending on the quality of the aforementioned pieces. But he won't get traded unless he asks for one and even then, we do not have to trade him


Of course not. You'll just have a NYI/Tavares situation on your hands in 5 years and will lose him for nothing.
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21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
False.. we do but we won’t be trading them either. Kakko maybe laf not a chance. Buffalo fans just don’t realize they won’t be getting the byfield or laf, if they get 4 1sts it’s gonna be plays and some prospects... but not 1 and 2 OA


He did say "most", not all. I think it's well known that the Rangers are one of the only teams that can offer a package that could rival LA's. But 25-28 more teams can't beat an LA or NYR offer, which is the definition of "most".
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21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 7
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I don't think the values off for the players but make it the 2021 first and keep the other 2 picks. Im not looking to trade Eichel. For turcotte and middle 6 potential guys. Your gonna have to throw in the other top 10 pick. As your roster shows, i dont need kempe and kupari if i can just sign athanasiou and moore.
21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
You literally just did this trade an hour ago, and people were telling you nope.

Eichel would start with byfield. Period. If you byfield is untouchable. You don't have what it takes to land eichel.


damn boy, calm down, both players are not in the same situation... if Eichel want to move out, this could be a proposal, this is an idea not an absolute truth, so take a breath
21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 16
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Each fanbase has a certain element that is incapable of evaluating its own players realistically. That segment of Buffalo fans that thinks EIchel = Draisaitl or MacKinnon has conflated Kevyn Adams' expressed desire for (i.e., negotiating tactic of announcing) "four first-round picks or the equivalent" into four first-overall-pick equivalents as the proper price for the unhappy and now injured center. It's not going to happen. Los Angeles isn't trading Byfield, or both of Turcotte and Vilardi, for Eichel. Nor are the Rangers trading LaFreniere or Kakko for him, nor Anaheim Zegras or Drysdale, nor Minnesota Kaprizov or Rossi.

The trade shown is fair value, although I don't think Kempe fits Buffalo all that well (I would substitute Kale Clague). Los Angeles shouldn't give up more, and I have a sneaking suspicion that what Buffalo eventually receives for Eichel if they actually trade him will be less.
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21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 17
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I don't think the values off for the players but make it the 2021 first and keep the other 2 picks. Im not looking to trade Eichel. For turcotte and middle 6 potential guys. Your gonna have to throw in the other top 10 pick. As your roster shows, i dont need kempe and kupari if i can just sign athanasiou and moore.


Just an FYI, if you're looking into the King's roster:

Kempe and Kupari >>>>>>>>>> Athanasiou and Moore. For many reasons, including but not limited to overall upside, skill, age, restricted free agency status, etc etc.
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21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 26
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Quoting: PuckLuck_77
Just an FYI, if you're looking into the King's roster:

Kempe and Kupari >>>>>>>>>> Athanasiou and Moore. For many reasons, including but not limited to overall upside, skill, age, restricted free agency status, etc etc.


Just an FYI thats your opinion. Kuparis played 3 nhl games with 0 points.... Kempe's a 3rd line winger = to athanasiou w/ 2 years difference in age and probably going to cost more against my cap when i have to resign him @ athanasious age. For kupari's upside you have moores experience. I don't see where you get all those greater than symbols from but if you still see 'em then keep 'em.
21 avr. 2021 à 14 h 57
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Of course not. You'll just have a NYI/Tavares situation on your hands in 5 years and will lose him for nothing.


In 5 years the U.S. and China could be at war and who will give a hoot - the problem with the trades is the people who want Eichel are not looking for a win win trade just who can I give up with zero pain - Buffalo trading Eichel doesn't make much sense for Buffalo because then we need a 1st line center - only the Oilers actually have two high quality first line centers, forget about Eichel and make an offer for Draisaitl he's better than Eichel but his loss isn't as big a hole on the Oilers as Eichel is on the Sabres - Draisaitl for Zibanejad, Kakko, Kravtsov, Chytil, Miller and a 2021 1st might help both teams.
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21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 25
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Oh so now we have Kings fans thinking that they can’t eat Eichel without giving up their best prospect. LAK Eichel trade starts with Byfield, NYR trade starts with Lafrienere, if those teams don’t want to give up those players so be it, but it gets tiresome of seeing trades involving a very good though not best prospect, a top 6 guy that really isn’t a difference maker, a d prospect and a 1st rd pick in a draft at least 2 teams seem to be trying to trade out of the draft all together.
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21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 26
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Oh so now we have Kings fans thinking that they can’t eat Eichel without giving up their best prospect. LAK Eichel trade starts with Byfield, NYR trade starts with Lafrienere, if those teams don’t want to give up those players so be it, but it gets tiresome of seeing trades involving a very good though not best prospect, a top 6 guy that really isn’t a difference maker, a d prospect and a 1st rd pick in a draft at least 2 teams seem to be trying to trade out of the draft all together.


I never said that. I said that LA won't give up Byfield for Eichel. I fully understand that means that LA likely won't get Eichel.
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21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 29
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I never said that. I said that LA won't give up Byfield for Eichel. I fully understand that means that LA likely won't get Eichel.


He didn't read the messages in this thread, lol
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21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 31
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In 5 years the U.S. and China could be at war and who will give a hoot - the problem with the trades is the people who want Eichel are not looking for a win win trade just who can I give up with zero pain - Buffalo trading Eichel doesn't make much sense for Buffalo because then we need a 1st line center - only the Oilers actually have two high quality first line centers, forget about Eichel and make an offer for Draisaitl he's better than Eichel but his loss isn't as big a hole on the Oilers as Eichel is on the Sabres - Draisaitl for Zibanejad, Kakko, Kravtsov, Chytil, Miller and a 2021 1st might help both teams.


That guy is one of the worst posters on here
Don’t waste your time with him
21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 36
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That guy is one of the worst posters on here
Don’t waste your time with him


Just because you don't like what I have to say...

I realize it's a tough time to be a Buffalo fan, and I'm sorry LA won't give away their entire future to you guys for one player.

Don't take it out on me.
21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 44
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Just because you don't like what I have to say...

I realize it's a tough time to be a Buffalo fan, and I'm sorry LA won't give away their entire future to you guys for one player.

Don't take it out on me.


I've had that Jdfitz guy blocked since October. Don't worry.
21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 44
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Just because you don't like what I have to say...

I realize it's a tough time to be a Buffalo fan, and I'm sorry LA won't give away their entire future to you guys for one player.

Don't take it out on me.
LAK and NYR might both be better than Buffalo but right now it looks like we will all be equally out of the playoffs
21 avr. 2021 à 15 h 46
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LAK and NYR might both be better than Buffalo but right now it looks like we will all be equally out of the playoffs


For sure. Too bad too, because it looks like the draft this year might be a relative stinker.
21 avr. 2021 à 16 h 3
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For sure. Too bad too, because it looks like the draft this year might be a relative stinker.


Pretty much, doesn't look like there are any franchise guys, I'd want to pick in the top 5 just to get a pretty sure solid guy - after that who knows it looks like a draft where guys picked relatively early could bust and guys picked 30-45 could surprise
21 avr. 2021 à 16 h 28
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Nah
21 avr. 2021 à 18 h 56
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Of course not. You'll just have a NYI/Tavares situation on your hands in 5 years and will lose him for nothing.


If he walks in 5 years then the Sabres have already got the best years out if his career. If they cannot get close to fair value in a return for this player there is no incentive to move him.
21 avr. 2021 à 18 h 59
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If he walks in 5 years then the Sabres have already got the best years out if his career. If they cannot get close to fair value in a return for this player there is no incentive to move him.


Reasonable assessment. Although, if he's disgruntled and demands a trade and Buffalo does not accommodate him, I suspect his play quality will somewhat diminish.
21 avr. 2021 à 19 h 24
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Reasonable assessment. Although, if he's disgruntled and demands a trade and Buffalo does not accommodate him, I suspect his play quality will somewhat diminish.


Sure that is not ideal but neither is trading him. I am not concerned with a player of his caliber allowing his play to dip significantly. He is too proud and competitive to allow that to happen.
 
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