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Créé par: chmalek91
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 19 avr. 2021
Publié: 20 avr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
3850 000 $
3850 000 $
3850 000 $
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
810 000 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
21 500 000 $
2900 000 $
2925 000 $
34 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
67 000 000 $
34 500 000 $
45 750 000 $
23 000 000 $
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COL
    Seattle Expansion Pick
    2.
    COL
    1. Samsonov, Ilya [Droits de RFA]
    WSH
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (COL)
    3.
    COL
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
    CBJ
    1. Kadri, Nazem
    2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (COL)
    4.
    COL
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
    5.
    WPG
    1. Burakovsky, André
    2. Graves, Ryan
    3. Helleson, Drew [Liste de réserve]
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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    UFA - 8
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    6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
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    UFA - 2
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    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
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    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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    RFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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    RFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AD
    RFA
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    725 000 $725 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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    UFA - 3
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    725 000 $725 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
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    20 avr. 2021 à 0 h 57
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    Not even close to getting Ehlers.
    20 avr. 2021 à 4 h 46
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    Expecting both WSH and WPG to sell low on samsy/ehlers I mean... just doesn't seem possible ultimately... they're both top valuable/good

    Ehlers and MacKinnon together 😵

    My brain can't even visualize that without going 🤯
    20 avr. 2021 à 5 h 16
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    Quoting: KPasty
    Not even close to getting Ehlers.


    So a top 6 winger a top 4 dman a top 4 d prospect and a 2nd isn’t even close for a career 0.32 ppg playoff producer?
    20 avr. 2021 à 5 h 19
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    So you traded Kadri for pennies on the dollar so you could sign Danault to block Newhoo gotcha
    20 avr. 2021 à 9 h 16
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    So you traded Kadri for pennies on the dollar so you could sign Danault to block Newhoo gotcha


    Newhook isn’t going to be ready for the 2C job right away. Even MacKinnon played 3C or 2nd line winger his first season. Kadri has regressed a bit this year. Bring in an elite defensive play driving C to play 2C for a year or 2 and let Newhook take his time fitting in. Then Danault can move to 3C.
    20 avr. 2021 à 9 h 18
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    Quoting: KPasty
    Not even close to getting Ehlers.


    Make the 2nd a 1st?
    20 avr. 2021 à 9 h 52
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    So a top 6 winger a top 4 dman a top 4 d prospect and a 2nd isn’t even close for a career 0.32 ppg playoff producer?


    Quoting: chmalek91
    Make the 2nd a 1st?


    Playoffs aside, Ehlers is far and away one of the most underrated players. The package does little to wow the Jets. Bura, he’s a decent middle 6 guy, never hit 50 points. Graves a good piece, but Winnipeg needs RHD, so having another LHD is pointless unless your offering Byram which I highly doubt. And the 2nd 3 drafts away... none starter. For Ehlers to be traded you’d need to wow the hell out of Winnipeg with an offer. He’s practically an untouchable with what he brings to the Jets. Byram + 1st might make the Jets blink but doubt if they do it weighing all the factors.
    20 avr. 2021 à 10 h 4
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    Quoting: chmalek91
    Newhook isn’t going to be ready for the 2C job right away. Even MacKinnon played 3C or 2nd line winger his first season. Kadri has regressed a bit this year. Bring in an elite defensive play driving C to play 2C for a year or 2 and let Newhook take his time fitting in. Then Danault can move to 3C.


    Kadri’s contract runs through next season. Newhook should be ready to run 2C when it’s up then you don’t have a $5.75M 3C that is all sorts of ridiculous.
    20 avr. 2021 à 10 h 17
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    Definite no from Winnipeg.
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    20 avr. 2021 à 11 h 12
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    Playoffs aside? That’s when it matters most. You’re high as hell if you think he is worth Byram +1st he is a winger that disappears in the playoffs. That doesn’t get you a 19yr old top pairing dman that already has elite defensive metrics and will be a minute eating all around stud for the next decade. The Jets literally have nobody that the Avs would trade Byram and 1st for that includes Schiefle. Seriously ridiculous. I mean you really said playoff scoring aside and Byram +1. That’s funny. Not funny haha, funny kinda sad that you actually believe that.


    That's fine, you can believe that, and I'm not saying that's what Ehlers is worth in terms of real value. But the Jets wont trade him for less than a package that completely blows them away. He's too valuable to the team and would garner a much better return from almost every other team. That garbage offer of Bura, Graves and a 2nd isn't close.
    20 avr. 2021 à 11 h 20
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    Quoting: KPasty
    That's fine, you can believe that, and I'm not saying that's what Ehlers is worth in terms of real value. But the Jets wont trade him for less than a package that completely blows them away. He's too valuable to the team and would garner a much better return from almost every other team. That garbage offer of Bura, Graves and a 2nd isn't close.


    So a 2nd line winger, top 4 dman, a top d prospect and a 2nd is a garbage offer? All I believe is your statements are full of great exaggeration and hyperbole. It isn’t a garbage offer, if I’m the Jets do I accept it, maybe depends on how you feel about Helleson.
    20 avr. 2021 à 13 h 3
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    So a 2nd line winger, top 4 dman, a top d prospect and a 2nd is a garbage offer? All I believe is your statements are full of great exaggeration and hyperbole. It isn’t a garbage offer, if I’m the Jets do I accept it, maybe depends on how you feel about Helleson.


    Of course you accept it, cause the Av's win the deal. If the Jets made that deal Winnipeg would riot and demand Chevyldayoff's head on a pike. Like i said, there's way better offers out there than that offer. It doesn't address their needs and makes the team worse.
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    20 avr. 2021 à 13 h 9
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    Of course you accept it, cause the Av's win the deal. If the Jets made that deal Winnipeg would riot and demand Chevyldayoff's head on a pike. Like i said, there's way better offers out there than that offer.

    I didn’t say I would accept it did I? What I didn’t do was call it a garbage offer, and rioting in the streets of WPG because they traded a guy who disappears in the playoffs, exaggerate much? What I can say is I would never make that trade if I were the Avs.
    20 avr. 2021 à 13 h 16
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    I didn’t say I would accept it did I? What I didn’t do was call it a garbage offer, and rioting in the streets of WPG because they traded a guy who disappears in the playoffs, exaggerate much? What I can say is I would never make that trade if I were the Avs.


    Honestly just gonna agree to disagree, its not a good offer for Winnipeg and you wont change my mind just like i wont change yours.
    20 avr. 2021 à 14 h 15
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    Honestly just gonna agree to disagree, its not a good offer for Winnipeg and you wont change my mind just like i wont change yours.


    I don’t Care one way or the other. My contention is it isn’t a garbage offer which it isn’t. Those were your words not mine, you’re the one that blasted off into hyperbole over it suggesting Byram and a 1st was more suitable when that was more ridiculous. I honestly don’t care, because COL would never even offer up the OPS proposal for Ehlers.
    21 avr. 2021 à 12 h 26
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    I think the value presented is fair to Winnipeg, but I totally understand them rejecting it. That’s why this is a Yolo off-season post
     
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