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Offseason Moves - Calgary

Créé par: Hockyluv21
Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2021
Publié: 16 avr. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Description
A re-tool of sorts. A mixture of young pieces and new veterans to replace the old core group of Gaudreau, Backlund, and Monahan, including Danault, JVR, Buchnevich, Larsson, Chytil, and Frost.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dubé, Dillon42 000 000 $
Välimäki, Juuso21 300 000 $
Mackey, Connor1750 000 $
Gawdin, Glenn1750 000 $
Chytil, Filip21 400 000 $
Buchnevich, Pavel55 200 000 $
Phillips, Matthew1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Larsson, Adam23 000 000 $
Forsberg, Anton2850 000 $
Danault, Phillip65 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
  2. Chytil, Filip [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2021 ronde en 1e (NYR)
  4. Choix de 2021 ronde en 4e (LAK)
NYR
  1. Monahan, Sean
2.
CGY
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. van Riemsdyk, James (2 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2021 ronde en 1e (PHI)
PHI
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
3.
CGY
    To Seattle.
    ANA
    1. Backlund, Mikael
    Rachats de contrats
    • Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
    2021
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    Logo de PHI
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    2022
    Logo de CGY
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $72 564 999 $0 $15 000 $8 935 001 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Tkachuk, Matthew
    7 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Lindholm, Elias
    4 850 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 3
    Buchnevich, Pavel
    5 200 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    van Riemsdyk, James
    5 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Danault, Phillip
    5 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Dubé, Dillon
    2 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    Chytil, Filip
    1 400 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    Frost, Morgan
    863 333 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Mangiapane, Andrew
    2 425 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Lucic, Milan
    5 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Gawdin, Glenn
    750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Ruzicka, Adam
    801 666 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Giordano, Mark
    3 375 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Andersson, Rasmus
    4 550 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Markström, Jacob
    6 000 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Hanifin, Noah
    4 950 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Tanev, Christopher
    4 500 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Forsberg, Anton
    850 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Välimäki, Juuso
    1 300 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Larsson, Adam
    3 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Mackey, Connor
    750 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    Phillips, Matthew
    750 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1

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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 26
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    Just no to that Rangers deal
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 29
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    Quoting: TheDime99
    Just no to that Rangers deal


    Don't the Rangers have a glut on the wing and could use more center depth?
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 29
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    I wouldn’t even do Buch for Monahan straight up
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 30
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Don't the Rangers have a glut on the wing and could use more center depth?


    They arent gonna overpay for a center whose regressed
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 33
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    You sold Monahan for more than you did with Gaudreau 😐
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 36
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    Quoting: mhroblak
    You sold Monahan for more than you did with Gaudreau 😐


    Of course I did. Gaudreau has only one year left on his deal. Monahan has two. That, in and of itself, commands more trade value.
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 40
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Of course I did. Gaudreau has only one year left on his deal. Monahan has two. That, in and of itself, commands more trade value.


    Then by that logic would Jesper Fast cost more than Andrei Svechnikov?
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 41
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    Quoting: mhroblak
    Then by that logic would Jesper Fast cost more than Andrei Svechnikov?


    Of course not. My point is that Gaudreau and Monahan are similar-caliber players in a similar age range, except the latter has had a bit of an off-year. He still, however, is going to be worth more in a trade because of the extra year left.
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 42
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    Easy no for the Rangers. I wouldn't trade Chytil or Buchnevich alone for Monahan, let alone both + a 1st. That's an absurd overpayment
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 42
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    You could've stopped at Buch... it would've been a no lol
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 43
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    Woah that top 6 FWs are worse.
    Dont think Calgary will move Monahan or Gaudreau in those trades but do feel they need to make big move.

    Neither of those do it for me.
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 44
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    Quoting: Trickster
    Woah that top 6 FWs are worse.
    Dont think Calgary will move Monahan or Gaudreau in those trades but do feel they need to make big move.

    Neither of those do it for me.


    The idea is that you temporarily downgrade, but accumulate picks and young players on that path and hope that Chytil and Frost take the next step. That's what a good retool is all about.
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 46
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Of course not. My point is that Gaudreau and Monahan are similar-caliber players in a similar age range, except the latter has had a bit of an off-year. He still, however, is going to be worth more in a trade because of the extra year left.


    Yeah right. Sean Monahan isn’t even a top 30 center.
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 46
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    You could've stopped at Buch... it would've been a no lol


    Monahan IMO is the more valuable player, though. I think a Buch/Monahan straight-up swap would be highway robbery for the Rangers. I don't think that the Rangers would lose the trade that I proposed, either. Usually the team that gets the best player wins the deal.
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 50
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Monahan IMO is the more valuable player, though. I think a Buch/Monahan straight-up swap would be highway robbery for the Rangers. I don't think that the Rangers would lose the trade that I proposed, either. Usually the team that gets the best player wins the deal.


    Bro just stop lmao
    16 avr. 2021 à 11 h 21
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    Gaudreau might be able to get moved for a late first round pick IF the acquiring team has multiple first round picks and is on the rise OR if a contender wants to load up for next year.
    Monahan would likely fetch a mid first round pick plus a B/B+ prospect from a team needing a decent 2-3C. However not many teams want to pay $6 m for a 3C. Since he’s had a down year as you mentioned then his value is super low and will not get traded. The TDL next year those two might fetch a good return.
    16 avr. 2021 à 11 h 33
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    Both trades are overpays from the other team
    16 avr. 2021 à 11 h 46
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    Flyers aren't giving you Frost, a first and retaining on JVR, you would have to eat his $7 mil.
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    16 avr. 2021 à 13 h 2
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Monahan IMO is the more valuable player, though. I think a Buch/Monahan straight-up swap would be highway robbery for the Rangers. I don't think that the Rangers would lose the trade that I proposed, either. Usually the team that gets the best player wins the deal.


    Yeah right now buch is the best player
    16 avr. 2021 à 13 h 58
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Monahan IMO is the more valuable player, though. I think a Buch/Monahan straight-up swap would be highway robbery for the Rangers. I don't think that the Rangers would lose the trade that I proposed, either. Usually the team that gets the best player wins the deal.


    Oh that's nice. Unfortunately there's a gap between your opinion and reality.

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    Buch has been provided more than double the on-ice value of Monahan over the last 3 seasons in 500 less mins. It's kinda a joke. I'd probably get a bit more comfortable with value metrics and player evaluation before proposing more deals...
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    16 avr. 2021 à 21 h 25
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Don't the Rangers have a glut on the wing and could use more center depth?


    Monahan is a 2C playing in the 1C slot.. just no. We have a 1C, 2C and Chytil is pretty much at 2C level..
    19 avr. 2021 à 11 h 46
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    That rangers deal lmao. I'm a Flames fan and I know that deal is incredibly one sided. Not even close
    20 avr. 2021 à 1 h 19
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    LMFAO
     
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