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Créé par: Trickster
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2021
Publié: 16 avr. 2021
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Description
Dermott signs another 1 year deal with extension signed during the season.

Not sure if I gave enough to Flames for Dube, would love to hear thoughts if I'm too low or too high.
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    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 35
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    GO FLAMES GO
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    Flames decline IMO. Even if it does happen he gets 2+ mill
    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 40
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    Flames decline IMO. Even if it does happen he gets 2+ mill


    I used Mikheyev comparable and Dube does not have arbitration rghts yet.

    I feel Flames should go for Eichel.
    Package Gaudreau and Backlund with picks/prospects.

    This helps replenish and/or help with that.
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    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 40
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    I used Mik6as comparable and Dube does not have arbitration rights yet.

    I feel Flames should go for Eichel.
    Package Gaudreau and Backlund with picks/prospects.

    This helps replenish and/or help with that.


    No way Buffalo would do that lol
    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 41
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    No way Buffalo would do that lol


    No way?
    I dont know about that.
    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 46
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    Quoting: Trickster
    No way?
    I dont know about that.


    If they trade Eichel they are restarting the rebuild and won't want a 32 year old player thats declining and a 27 year old that is most likely leaving his prime.
    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 49
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    If they trade Eichel they are restarting the rebuild and won't want a 32 year old player thats declining and a 27 year old that is most likely leaving his prime.


    Perhaps, but they have some bad deals on the books with term.
    Retool might a direction they go.
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    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 54
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    Quoting: Trickster
    Perhaps, but they have some bad deals on the books with term.
    Retool might a direction they go.


    Regardless of if Calgary pursues Eichel, moving Dube for 2 likely future minor leaguer's and a 2nd is a bad deal for Calgary
    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 57
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    Regardless of if Calgary pursues Eichel, moving Dube for 2 likely future minor leaguer's and a 2nd is a bad deal for Calgary


    If they empty their cupboard, I think no.
    But I am open to listening on what it does take.
    16 avr. 2021 à 9 h 58
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    If they empty their cupboard, I think no.
    But I am open to listening on what it does take.


    Well definitely starts with a 1st
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 1
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Well definitely starts with a 1st


    Why?
    Looks like back to back under 20 point years and under 10 goals too.
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    Why?
    Looks like back to back under 20 point years and under 10 goals too.


    Because high energy 2-way power forward that can play anywhere in the top 9 and has a lot of potential. I would probably be asking for what Pittsburgh paid for Kapanen (obviously the 1st isnt 15th OA though) so late 1st and Hallander.
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 9
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    Because high energy 2-way power forward that can play anywhere in the top 9 and has a lot of potential. I would probably be asking for what Pittsburgh paid for Kapanen (obviously the 1st isnt 15th OA though) so late 1st and Hallander.


    That's way off IMO.
    Kapanen had 20 goal year and 40+ point year followed close 40 year later.

    Blias is another comparable for Dube.
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 12
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    Tricky with Dubé

    Surprisingly bad analytically so far

    But improved this season so maybe that return is fair

    Kinda uncertain atm

    But shows promise for sure I thought he be better
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 20
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    That's way off IMO.
    Kapanen had 20 goal year and 40+ point year followed close 40 year later.

    Blias is another comparable for Dube.


    Lol sure man, maybe you should pursue 24 year old 4th liner Sammy Blias or 26 year old 4th liner Ryan Hartman instead. Calgary's not giving you one of their top 6 sophomore wingers for a 2nd in 2023. Lol.

    Dube is more like a 22 year old Blake Coleman. Would you trade Mikheyev for a 2023 2nd? He's also in his 2nd season and pacing arond 20 points
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 23
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    Lol sure man, maybe you should pursue 24 year old 4th liner Sammy Blias or 26 year old 4th liner Ryan Hartman instead. Calgary's not giving you one of their top 6 sophomore wingers for a 2nd in 2023. Lol. Dube is more like a 22 year old Blake Coleman


    Did I give wrong facts on goals and point totals?
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    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 26
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    That's way off IMO.
    Kapanen had 20 goal year and 40+ point year followed close 40 year later.

    Blias is another comparable for Dube.


    Yeah not even too much younger than Blais either

    😕

    Yeah Kappy didn't even have much linemate boost
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 26
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    Did I give wrong facts on goals and point totals?


    No but you also only looked up points which means you dont actually know anything about the player
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 30
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    No but you also only looked up points which means you dont actually know anything about the player


    Well your wrong.
    Cause I looked goals too.

    While two things are not everything, your just dismissing them.

    I like Dube, but he has under performed so far.
    I think the value I offered is fair and so is contract.

    You have not made a factual argument to say otherwise
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 31
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    Ulmark has accomplished not much more than Campbell why would you throw 4 million at a guy who has never until sort of this season claimed a starters role? On top of that, how does he handle the pressure in TO? Terrible risky plan.
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    Lol sure man, maybe you should pursue 24 year old 4th liner Sammy Blias or 26 year old 4th liner Ryan Hartman instead. Calgary's not giving you one of their top 6 sophomore wingers for a 2nd in 2023. Lol.

    Dube is more like a 22 year old Blake Coleman. Would you trade Mikheyev for a 2023 2nd? He's also in his 2nd season and pacing arond 20 points


    Just had to laugh a bit at Hartman having only 4 fewer points than Coleman at the moment but I think the suggestion Dubé will become roughly him is sound
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 35
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    Ulmark has accomplished not much more than Campbell why would you throw 4 million at a guy who has never until sort of this season claimed a starters role? On top of that, how does he handle the pressure in TO? Terrible risky plan.


    I feel that is what he will get as UFA.
    Ullmark is 27 and that we drive his price some.
    While Sabres have not looked good, he seems like a decent goalie.

    We need a new goalie, I would love to get the number lower if possible..3.5 million.

    What is your idea for a new goalie?
    16 avr. 2021 à 10 h 39
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    Yeah not even too much younger than Blais either

    😕

    Yeah Kappy didn't even have much linemate boost


    I'm not saying that Kapanen didntcplay with better players but why is that Kapanen's fault?
    Why isn't Dube slotting up to play with better players in Calgary?
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    If you really want Nils Aman you better make an offer like you want Nils Aman, because their aren’t many like Nils Aman.
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    16 avr. 2021 à 12 h 44
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    I feel that is what he will get as UFA.
    Ullmark is 27 and that we drive his price some.
    While Sabres have not looked good, he seems like a decent goalie.

    We need a new goalie, I would love to get the number lower if possible..3.5 million.

    What is your idea for a new goalie?


    Not sure, gotta wait and see.
    16 avr. 2021 à 12 h 56
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    If you really want Nils Aman you better make an offer like you want Nils Aman, because their aren’t many like Nils Aman.


    Can you share what you think it takes?
    I'd love to hear.

    He is intriguing
     
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