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Fair Eichel trade

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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 14 avr. 2021
Publié: 14 avr. 2021
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This trade makes sense and is fair for both sides. Rangers get a young #1 Center while the Sabres get equivalent to around 4 first round picks. To get Eichel, YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP SOMETHING OF VALUE. The main piece going to Buffalo is Kaako. Kaako could be a franchise winger but Eichel is already better and is worth much more than Kaako. Kaako is also replaceable for the Rangers with Buch and Kravstov on the right side. Kaako could very well break out in Buffalo when he is given a bigger role. Strome has been playing good this year but if the Rangers trade for Eichel, they need to make space for him and clear salary. Strome adds value and would fill a center spot for Buffalo. Geogiev is a decent young goalie the Sabres could use, especially if Ullmark leaves. Rangers don't need him with Shesty as their goalie. Scheider is a decent defensive prospect but the Rangers don't need him with Fox, Lundkvist, and Trouba as the RHD. Sabres could add defensemen to their pipeline. The first round pick would be around the 10-15 range.

This trade makes sense for both sides because the Sabres get a ton of value for Eichel. If Eichel gets traded, the Sabes won't get maximum value because whenever a star player does get traded, the return isn't always as valuable as the player. Especially if Eichel requests a trade which is very likely. However, this offer would is very good for the Sabres and would help them in their rebuild. This trade makes sense for the Rangers because all of the pieces they are moving are replaceable. They aren't giving up too much as some Ranger fans might think.
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  1. Schneider, Braden
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar
  3. Kakko, Kaapo
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  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 12
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Buffalo would be stupid not to take this offer.
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 13
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Both fanbases need to suck it up and admit this is fair for both sides, even though they both probably want to decline this offer.
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 13
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Buffalo would be stupid not to take this offer.


Tell that to the Sabres fan who told me Kakko is worse than Casey Mittelstadt five hours ago, lol
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 14
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What would the devils trade for him look like?

Hughes
Ty Smith
Hischier
Wedgewood
1st
???
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 19
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Tell that to the Sabres fan who told me Kakko is worse than Casey Mittelstadt five hours ago, lol


Kevin Rooney>Kraapo Kaako
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 20
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What would the devils trade for him look like?

Hughes
Ty Smith
Hischier
Wedgewood
1st
???


That would be way too much. I don't even think the Devils would want to trade for Eichel but if they did it would be Hughes, Mukamadullin, 1st. I wouldn't do this trade from a NJ standpoint
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 22
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Quoting: NYR1983
What would the devils trade for him look like?

Hughes
Ty Smith
Hischier
Wedgewood
1st
???


Jack Hughes
Will Butcher
Dawson Mercer
1st and 2nd
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 23
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That would be way too much. I don't even think the Devils would want to trade for Eichel but if they did it would be Hughes, Mukamadullin, 1st. I wouldn't do this trade from a NJ standpoint


That’s a good offer honestly. Maybe even switch the 1st to a 2nd.
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 25
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Quoting: mhroblak
Jack Hughes
Will Butcher
Dawson Mercer
1st and 2nd


I still wouldn't do that tbh. Upgrading Hughes to Eichel doesn't really help the Devils that much. I rather have Mercer, a top 5/10 pick, Butcher, and a 2nd along with Hughes
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That’s a good offer honestly. Maybe even switch the 1st to a 2nd.


That could work but I honestly rather keep a happy Hughes rather than trade for an unhappy Eichel.
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 28
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Penguins fan here, hi hello. This is fair for both teams.
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I still wouldn't do that tbh. Upgrading Hughes to Eichel doesn't really help the Devils that much. I rather have Mercer, a top 5/10 pick, Butcher, and a 2nd along with Hughes


Yeah I wouldn't do it either if I'm the Devils. I was just trying to make one based on the assets of your trade off the top of my head
Was thinking along the lines of Hughes = Kakko + Schneider and Strome + Georgiev = Mukhamadullin + Butcher (Mercer is too good a prospect, I take that one back)
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 33
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Yeah I wouldn't do it either if I'm the Devils. I was just trying to make one based on the assets of your trade off the top of my head
Was thinking along the lines of Hughes = Kakko + Schneider and Strome + Georgiev = Mukhamadullin + Butcher (Mercer is too good a prospect, I take that one back)


If we're basing it off of the Rangers trade, then Hughes = Kaako + 1st, Schneider = Mukamadullin, Strome = Wood (Sabres fans really want him), Georgiev = Butcher, 2 2nds.
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14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 57
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Buffalo would be stupid not to take this offer.


Sabres pass, easy. Any Ranger deal that starts with Kakko, Georgiev is a straight pass
14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 59
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If we're basing it off of the Rangers trade, then Hughes = Kaako + 1st, Schneider = Mukamadullin, Strome = Wood (Sabres fans really want him), Georgiev = Butcher, 2 2nds.

Georgiev = Blackwood
14 avr. 2021 à 22 h 4
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Sabres pass, easy. Any Ranger deal that starts with Kakko, Georgiev is a straight pass


What would be your offer?
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Georgiev = Blackwood


NOT A CHANCE.
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NOT A CHANCE.


I didnt say NJ would do it
14 avr. 2021 à 22 h 8
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I didnt say NJ would do it


But the fact you compared Georgiev to Blackwood is insane. Blackwood is worth much more than Georgiev and its not even close.
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14 avr. 2021 à 22 h 14
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What would be your offer?


Wouldnt trade Eichel, if they were forced to, i wouldnt do it in the eastern conference, and the Rangers dont really have anything they would want. Laf would be nice, but meaningless without a center, not a fan of Strome, Z does not have a lot of term so were already dead in the water
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NOT A CHANCE.


Agreed, Blackwood is a good amount above Geo. Slightly under Shesty but Geo isn’t a good comparison. MB is one of my favourites. Him, Peterson and Shesty are my 3 future Vez candidates. It’s Quick/Lundy/Marty all over again.
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14 avr. 2021 à 22 h 16
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But the fact you compared Georgiev to Blackwood is insane. Blackwood is worth much more than Georgiev and its not even close.


Agree to an extent, i think Blackwood has a higher potential ceiling but currently they have similar stats. Ranger fans also still pretend Georgiev has a way higher value than he actually does
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14 avr. 2021 à 22 h 26
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Wouldnt trade Eichel, if they were forced to, i wouldnt do it in the eastern conference, and the Rangers dont really have anything they would want. Laf would be nice, but meaningless without a center, not a fan of Strome, Z does not have a lot of term so were already dead in the water


Sabres don't need a good and young center coming back in an Eichel trade. They have Cozens who could be a #1 center. They get Strome back who is a surfaceable 2C. If Strome doesn't work, then try Middlestadt at 2C to see if he still has that potential. If Middlestadt doesn't work then look towards the draft. With your own first round pick, the Sabres could get Beneirs or Eklund to be their future 1/2 C. If none of them are there with the Sabres pick (very unlikely), get Kent Johnson with the Rangers first round pick
14 avr. 2021 à 22 h 27
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Agreed, Blackwood is a good amount above Geo. Slightly under Shesty but Geo isn’t a good comparison. MB is one of my favourites. Him, Peterson and Shesty are my 3 future Vez candidates. It’s Quick/Lundy/Marty all over again.


I would throw Demko in that conversation too
14 avr. 2021 à 22 h 29
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Agree to an extent, i think Blackwood has a higher potential ceiling but currently they have similar stats. Ranger fans also still pretend Georgiev has a way higher value than he actually does


Similar stats because of their situation. Georgiev has a much better defense than Blackwood. Blackwood was carrying the Devils before he got Covid. After Covid, his numbers significantly dropped. He's starting to pick it up again. If Georgiev was put in that situation, he would do way worse. Blackwood is better right now and has a higher ceiling. Some Ranger fans overvalue Georgiev but most don't
 
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