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    14 avr. 2021 à 15 h 58
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    Getting Lambert would be sick, but I really hope Ottawa isn't still a basement team by then. I'd like to see them at least in the wildcard hunt
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    14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 3
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    Can't see OTT being in the bottom-5 next year. That amount of quality prospects has to begin producing at some point.
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    14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 14
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Getting Lambert would be sick, but I really hope Ottawa isn't still a basement team by then. I'd like to see them at least in the wildcard hunt


    Legit after a good pick this year, I only see 1 spot left to be filled
    14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 55
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    Legit after a good pick this year, I only see 1 spot left to be filled


    Still think Stützle can be a 1C. I really think his game is going to completely transform as he gets stronger. Once he gets his man strength, I don't really have concerns about his ability to play the middle of the ice, and it's just a matter of him figuring out faceoffs, which is a skill you can definitely learn.

    If the organization is sure Stützle is a winger, I'd be scoping out Matty Beniers pretty hard. Definitely less likely than Guenther to be on the board for Ottawa if they fall in the draft, but I think he can be a 1C on a team that is going to be driven by elite offensive wingers.

    As for missing out on Guenther to round out the RW depth, I think there's totally a scenario where it makes sense to trade Erik Brannstrom for a projectable top 6 RW talent. If the Mete claim works out and he becomes an effective mobile 3LD, maybe there's a deal to be made for one of LA's crop of talented right shot forwards. A guy like Akil Thomas or Samuel ****emo.
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    14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 56
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Still think Stützle can be a 1C. I really think his game is going to completely transform as he gets stronger. Once he gets his man strength, I don't really have concerns about his ability to play the middle of the ice, and it's just a matter of him figuring out faceoffs, which is a skill you can definitely learn.

    If the organization is sure Stützle is a winger, I'd be scoping out Matty Beniers pretty hard. Definitely less likely than Guenther to be on the board for Ottawa if they fall in the draft, but I think he can be a 1C on a team that is going to be driven by elite offensive wingers.

    As for missing out on Guenther to round out the RW depth, I think there's totally a scenario where it makes sense to trade Erik Brannstrom for a projectable top 6 RW talent. If the Mete claim works out and he becomes an effective mobile 3LD, maybe there's a deal to be made for one of LA's crop of talented right shot forwards. A guy like Akil Thomas or Samuel ****emo.


    Yeah I guess that’s true
    14 avr. 2021 à 17 h 0
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    Yeah I guess that’s true


    Also LMAO at the censor filter thinking that guy's name is a slur. Literally just his name
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    14 avr. 2021 à 17 h 56
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Still think Stützle can be a 1C. I really think his game is going to completely transform as he gets stronger. Once he gets his man strength, I don't really have concerns about his ability to play the middle of the ice, and it's just a matter of him figuring out faceoffs, which is a skill you can definitely learn.

    If the organization is sure Stützle is a winger, I'd be scoping out Matty Beniers pretty hard. Definitely less likely than Guenther to be on the board for Ottawa if they fall in the draft, but I think he can be a 1C on a team that is going to be driven by elite offensive wingers.

    As for missing out on Guenther to round out the RW depth, I think there's totally a scenario where it makes sense to trade Erik Brannstrom for a projectable top 6 RW talent. If the Mete claim works out and he becomes an effective mobile 3LD, maybe there's a deal to be made for one of LA's crop of talented right shot forwards. A guy like Akil Thomas or Samuel ****emo.

    I hope Stutzle becomes a 1C too but I still think we need another elite forward somehow, regardless of position. If we miss out on Beniers/Eklund/Guenther, I wouldn’t be against drafting Clarke and dealing Brannstrom for a top 6 C/RW prospect. Chabot-JBD Sanderson-Clarke is a nasty top 4 with great balance and no real weaknesses so Brannstrom becomes expendable for a high end forward prospect. I would aim higher than Thomas and ****emo though, like Frost/Tippett level at least.
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    14 avr. 2021 à 18 h 0
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    Quoting: Alfie11
    I hope Stutzle becomes a 1C too but I still think we need another elite forward somehow, regardless of position. If we miss out on Beniers/Eklund/Guenther, I wouldn’t be against drafting Clarke and dealing Brannstrom for a top 6 C/RW prospect. Chabot-JBD Sanderson-Clarke is a nasty top 4 with great balance and no real weaknesses so Brannstrom becomes expendable for a high end forward prospect. I would aim higher than Thomas and ****emo though, like Frost/Tippett level at least.


    Yup for sure. As of now , I think we need 2 more elite pieces. 1 by draft and another either next years draft, by trade (quantity for quality) or maybe a prospect we have comes out of nowhere and proves he’s top line caliber
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    14 avr. 2021 à 18 h 6
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    Yup for sure. As of now , I think we need 2 more elite pieces. 1 by draft and another either next years draft, by trade (quantity for quality) or maybe a prospect we have comes out of nowhere and proves he’s top line caliber

    If Sokolov becomes the next Tom Wilson that would be great smile Alternatively I’ll accept Logan Brown becoming an elite top line playmaker. Or Pinto continuing his skyward trajectory and becoming a top line C/RW.
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    14 avr. 2021 à 18 h 15
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    If Sokolov becomes the next Tom Wilson that would be great smile Alternatively I’ll accept Logan Brown becoming an elite top line playmaker. Or Pinto continuing his skyward trajectory and becoming a top line C/RW.


    If Jimmy stays at wing: (my opinion on team to compete)
    Stutzle-XXX-XXX
    Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
    Formenton-Pinto-White
    Sokolov-Paul-C. Brown

    Chabot-JBD
    Sanderson-Zub
    Brannstrom-Thomson

    That’s what I see. I think we do need a guy like Beniers or Guenther on the top line. But then we need another player
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    14 avr. 2021 à 18 h 56
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    If Jimmy stays at wing: (my opinion on team to compete)
    Stutzle-XXX-XXX
    Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
    Formenton-Pinto-White
    Sokolov-Paul-C. Brown

    Chabot-JBD
    Sanderson-Zub
    Brannstrom-Thomson

    That’s what I see. I think we do need a guy like Beniers or Guenther on the top line. But then we need another player

    This would be great but I think we might be able to get by with just one additional piece, like this:

    Stutzle-Beniers-Batherson
    Tkachuk-Norris-White
    Formenton-Pinto-C. Brown
    Paul-x-x (4th liners are super easy to find)

    I think this would be fine. Stutzle has elite talent and has shown good chemistry with Batherson. Beniers adds a high-end two-way centre to cover defensively without being a drag in the offensive zone. Tkachuk in the 2nd line is crazy to think we could pull off, and that would be an excellent matchup line with some offensive punch/physicality. 3rd line is big and solid at both ends of the ice. I think we could work with this.
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    14 avr. 2021 à 19 h 0
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    This would be great but I think we might be able to get by with just one additional piece, like this:

    Stutzle-Beniers-Batherson
    Tkachuk-Norris-White
    Formenton-Pinto-C. Brown
    Paul-x-x (4th liners are super easy to find)

    I think this would be fine. Stutzle has elite talent and has shown good chemistry with Batherson. Beniers adds a high-end two-way centre to cover defensively without being a drag in the offensive zone. Tkachuk in the 2nd line is crazy to think we could pull off, and that would be an excellent matchup line with some offensive punch/physicality. 3rd line is big and solid at both ends of the ice. I think we could work with this.


    Quite possibly but considering we don’t have a top 15 player, we might need that extra piece over White as 2RW
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    14 avr. 2021 à 19 h 40
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    Quite possibly but considering we don’t have a top 15 player, we might need that extra piece over White as 2RW

    Maybe, but just because we don’t have a top 15 player right now doesn’t mean our guys won’t turn into that. It’s not entirely unreasonable to project Tkachuk, Stutzle, and Beniers as similar to Benn, Eichel, and Toews once they hit their prime with a good supporting cast. If even 1 or 2 of them hit that potential and the others are still good then we’re laughing.
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    14 avr. 2021 à 20 h 53
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    Let's say Ottawa finishes ahead of Buffalo and Anaheim in the standings and we lose the draft lottery.

    That would means we might be picking 5th or 6th overall.

    Do you think Guenther will be available at 5 or 6?
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    Let's say Ottawa finishes ahead of Buffalo and Anaheim in the standings and we lose the draft lottery.

    That would means we might be picking 5th or 6th overall.

    Do you think Guenther will be available at 5 or 6?


    Power, Hughes, Clarke, Beniers, Eklund, Guenther will be the top 6 picks not in any order. Ottawa will grab the best one left from the last 4
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    Let's say Ottawa finishes ahead of Buffalo and Anaheim in the standings and we lose the draft lottery.

    That would means we might be picking 5th or 6th overall.

    Do you think Guenther will be available at 5 or 6?

    Honestly probably. Owen Power should be top 3 pretty much any way you slice it. Hughes or Clarke slipping out of the top 6 would be a major surprise, both could go top 5. Ottawa currently can't pick worse than 4th, and even if Anaheim falls below them it's still a top 5 pick. One of the big 3 forwards is likely available at 5 imo, and in the small case that all of Beniers/Eklund/Guenther are gone, Johnson or Clarke aren't a bad consolation prize.
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    14 avr. 2021 à 21 h 1
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    Honestly probably. Owen Power should be top 3 pretty much any way you slice it. Hughes or Clarke slipping out of the top 6 would be a major surprise, both could go top 5. Ottawa currently can't pick worse than 4th, and even if Anaheim falls below them it's still a top 5 pick. One of the big 3 forwards is likely available at 5 imo, and in the small case that all of Beniers/Eklund/Guenther are gone, Johnson or Clarke aren't a bad consolation prize.


    Def not. I think Guenther, Beniers, Eklund, Clarke, Johnson all have top line / top pairing potential
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    Honestly probably. Owen Power should be top 3 pretty much any way you slice it. Hughes or Clarke slipping out of the top 6 would be a major surprise, both could go top 5. Ottawa currently can't pick worse than 4th, and even if Anaheim falls below them it's still a top 5 pick. One of the big 3 forwards is likely available at 5 imo, and in the small case that all of Beniers/Eklund/Guenther are gone, Johnson or Clarke aren't a bad consolation prize.


    I would like to point out that Seattle's 1st round pick has by default, the 3rd best odds of winning the lottery.

    The Seattle pick will finish no worse than 5th overall.

    If Ottawa passes Anaheim in the standings, which I can see happening, then we would have a 20.6% chance of picking 6th overall.

    So, there's an outside chance our pick is not in the top 5.

    After seeing what happened with last year's lottery, I feel the need to take into account the worst case scenario for our 1st round pick.

    Lotteries aren't meant to be won frown

    It's why I don't like going to casinos or buying lottery tickets smile
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    I would like to point out that Seattle's 1st round pick has by default, the 3rd best odds of winning the lottery.

    The Seattle pick will finish no worse than 5th overall.

    If Ottawa passes Anaheim in the standings, which I can see happening, then we would have a 20.6% chance of picking 6th overall.

    So, there's an outside chance our pick is not in the top 5.

    After seeing what happened with last year's lottery, I feel the need to take into account the worst case scenario for our 1st round pick.

    Lotteries aren't meant to be won frown


    I hope we stay 2nd.
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    I hope we stay 2nd.

    It would be nice to just win the lottery lol, get Beniers without stressing about who other teams take and know that we're probably set for a while. If we do that and land a decent veteran UFA or two on short term deals (one F one D?), trade Tierney, let Stutzle/Norris/Batherson continue to carve out a larger role and break Pinto/Formenton/JBD/our 2021 1st in full time, next year could be fun and we might even win a few games. I lose faith in Murray even more every time he starts but hopefully Gustavsson can maybe step in as the backup or a 1B type of thing before taking over. I really love the guys in our pipeline, I just hope they put it all together and mesh well as they enter their primes and hopefully become stars.
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    It would be nice to just win the lottery lol, get Beniers without stressing about who other teams take and know that we're probably set for a while. If we do that and land a decent veteran UFA or two on short term deals (one F one D?), trade Tierney, let Stutzle/Norris/Batherson continue to carve out a larger role and break Pinto/Formenton/JBD/our 2021 1st in full time, next year could be fun and we might even win a few games. I lose faith in Murray even more every time he starts but hopefully Gustavsson can maybe step in as the backup or a 1B type of thing before taking over. I really love the guys in our pipeline, I just hope they put it all together and mesh well as they enter their primes and hopefully become stars.


    I’m just curious , if we get 1st, do u think whoever we pick will play right away?
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    I’m just curious , if we get 1st, do u think whoever we pick will play right away?

    Probably, 1oa usually jumps right in. Assuming it's Beniers he'd probably fit nicely at 3C with wingers like Formenton/Dzingel/C Brown/Dadonov/Paul in a sheltered role (our other young guys should start to break out of being sheltered into the difficult matchups by then). I'm assuming Beniers/Power/Eklund all step right into the NHL. The rest of the top 7 shouldn't need more than 1 extra year though.
     
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