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Ranking the GMs

Créé par: NHLfan10506
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Date de création initiale: 14 avr. 2021
Publié: 14 avr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Just one guys opinion

(left out Hextall and Francis)
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3281 500 000 $32 000 000 $0 $0 $49 500 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
1 Joe Sakic, Colorado
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
21 Brad Treliving, Calgary
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
2 Steve Yzerman, Detroit
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
22 Doug Wilson, San Jose
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
3 Don Sweeney, Boston
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
23 Jarmo Kekalainen, Columbus
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
4 Julien BriseBois, Tampa Bay
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
24 Chuck Fletcher, Philadelphia
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
5 Rob Blake, Los Angeles
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
11 Kelly McCrimmon, Vegas
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
25 Bob Murray, Anaheim
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
6 Lou Lamoriello, NY Islanders
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
12 Tom Fitzgerald, New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
26 Stan Bowman, Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
7 Doug Armstrong, St Louis
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
13 Kevin Cheveldayoff, Winnipeg
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
27 Jeff Gorton, NY Rangers
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
8 Brian MacLellan, Washington
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
14 Bill Guerin, Minnesota
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
28 Pierre Dorion, Ottawa
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
9 Don Waddell, Carolina
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
15 Bill Zito, Florida
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
29 Kevyn Adams, Buffalo
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
10 Jim Nill, Dallas
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
16 Kyle Dubas, Toronto
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
30 Jim Benning, Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
17 David Poile, Nashville
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
18 Bill Armstrong, Arizona
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
19 Marc Bergevin, Montreal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
20 Ken Holland, Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NR Ron Francis, Seattle
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
NR Ron Hextall, Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $

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14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 13
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Quoting: math731
What about Danault and Romanov for Weise and Fleishman? Petry for a second and a 4th? Patch for Suzuki, Tatar and Norlinder? Weber for Subban? Domi for Anderson (after Chucky for Domi)? Shipping guys like Scandella and Kovalchuk for 2nd picks? Signing Toffoli?

His only bad move per say is Drouin for Sergachev but then again, Drouin is young and still provide 50+ pts a year which is still great.


Ah yes, 6th defenseman Romanov that habs fans pegged as a calder favorite before the season started. Vegas trade was in sorts a W-W.

MB has it in him to make a good move, but his efforts to waste all the cap space on middle six depth this year to have yet another middling to average year shows that he is nothing special.
14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 18
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I know it's your opinion, but I think Don Sweeney is way, way too high.
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14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 19
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Quoting: Vermathex
except for the matt murray trade and contract


Derek Stepan was also a very meh move
14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 23
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Ah yes, 6th defenseman Romanov that habs fans pegged as a calder favorite before the season started. Vegas trade was in sorts a W-W.

MB has it in him to make a good move, but his efforts to waste all the cap space on middle six depth this year to have yet another middling to average year shows that he is nothing special.


Dude I see you on every post, bashing everything related to the Canadiens. It was Caufield and now it's Bergevin. It just shows that you're very biased. You're literally a Canucks fan, defending one of the very worst GMs in the league all the time.

All the moves that @math731 pointed out are insane moves that should rank him at least top 10. Romanov is a rookie with only 30 games under his belt and he's a bona-fide #6? lmao.
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14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 26
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Quoting: SheaWeber6
Derek Stepan was also a very meh move


yeah, kinda. Injury situation was hard to predict tho.


Quoting: SheaWeber6
Dude I see you on every post, bashing everything related to the Canadiens. It was Caufield and now it's Bergevin. It just shows that you're very biased. You're literally a Canucks fan, defending one of the very worst GMs in the league all the time.

All the moves that math731 pointed out are insane moves that should rank him at least top 10. Romanov is a rookie with only 30 games under his belt and he's a bona-fide #6? lmao.


Because Habs fans can only ever see things their own way. I probably am bias, because I do not like Habs media at all, and the fans stand on that hill trying to defend the irrational takes the media pushes. If he was a top 10 GM after all this time, you'd have a very successful franchise. There's been some solid moves in his tenure, yeah. But, how come you're strapped to the cap (next year too) with a fringe playoff team? If he is as good as you say, this should be a very strong contender, not a fringe contender.

I think 19 is a very fair place to peg him. MB is certainly competent, but not top tier.
14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 35
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Quoting: Wqrrior
yeah, kinda. Injury situation was hard to predict tho.




Because Habs fans can only ever see things their own way. I probably am bias, because I do not like Habs media at all, and the fans stand on that hill trying to defend the irrational takes the media pushes. If he was a top 10 GM after all this time, you'd have a very successful franchise. There's been some solid moves in his tenure, yeah. But, how come you're strapped to the cap (next year too) with a fringe playoff team? If he is as good as you say, this should be a very strong contender, not a fringe contender.

I think 19 is a very fair place to peg him. MB is certainly competent, but not top tier.


Habs fans are probably the most biased fan base besides the leafs.

I get their points, but sorry, bergevin isn’t even top 15, let alone top 10. Some of the contracts he’s given out are questionable. He’s made some decent moves, arguably his best draft pick fell into his lap.

I just hardly listen to habs fans nowadays.
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14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 36
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I like the list, IMO Sweeney and Lamoriello are too high. I’d like to see Jarmo higher, same with Bowman (3 cups makes you a top 15 lock) and Dorion.
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14 avr. 2021 à 16 h 37
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No clue how Blake is rated so high. Quite baffling.
14 avr. 2021 à 17 h 26
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Habs fans are probably the most biased fan base besides the leafs.

I just hardly listen to habs fans nowadays.


So because of people thinking Bergevin is a top 10 GM, all the fans are biased? You're just discussing with the wrong ones.

I've seen Jets fans claiming that they "don't need help at defense, because Heinola and Samberg are coming". Yet I'm not putting all the fan-base in the same basket.
14 avr. 2021 à 18 h 54
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Ah yes, 6th defenseman Romanov that habs fans pegged as a calder favorite before the season started. Vegas trade was in sorts a W-W.

MB has it in him to make a good move, but his efforts to waste all the cap space on middle six depth this year to have yet another middling to average year shows that he is nothing special.


Habs live rent free in your head after the events of the beginning of the season
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14 avr. 2021 à 18 h 55
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Habs fans are probably the most biased fan base besides the leafs.

I get their points, but sorry, bergevin isn’t even top 15, let alone top 10. Some of the contracts he’s given out are questionable. He’s made some decent moves, arguably his best draft pick fell into his lap.

I just hardly listen to habs fans nowadays.


Says someone who believes Copp is worth a first plus
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14 avr. 2021 à 19 h 7
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Says someone who believes Copp is worth a first plus


Or that Copp is better than Danault 😬. Yet I'm not saying I'll stop listening to what the whole Jets fanbase has to say.
14 avr. 2021 à 19 h 32
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Says someone who believes Copp is worth a first plus


Woah woah woah 😂😂

When did I ever say that Copp isn’t even worth a 1st alone tbh. I think you might just be misunderstanding what I said, cause I did say that Copp is more valuable to the Jets than a 1st is. That’s probably where you got that from. Two totally different things, his trade value is lower than a first, but his value to the Jets is higher than a 1st.
14 avr. 2021 à 19 h 39
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So because of people thinking Bergevin is a top 10 GM, all the fans are biased? You're just discussing with the wrong ones.

I've seen Jets fans claiming that they "don't need help at defense, because Heinola and Samberg are coming". Yet I'm not putting all the fan-base in the same basket.


I know you’re not putting all the fans in the same basket. I didn’t mean to either and should’ve clarified that. But I still stand by what I said in that the habs and leafs have the most biased fans.

I’m not one of the Jets fans that believe what you said, and I was upset when we didn’t actually add anything of substance at the deadline. I do believe it was smart to not toss the farm away for a dman, but I would’ve liked to see Chevy grab a Ryan Murray or a Haydn Fleury. While yes Heinola and samberg are in the pipeline, they aren’t what we need to win a cup.

But back to my main point. Bergevin isn’t a top 10 GM, just the same as I’d say Chevy isn’t a top 10 GM. There are definitely better GMs out there. Bergevin and Chevy have both signed some questionable contracts and made some questionable moves. That’s why I think it’s fair to rank them near each other. Like Chevy at 15 and MB at 17-19 is probably accurate. The one thing I will give MB is that he has the balls to tender an Offer Sheet, I wish more GMs were like that.
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14 avr. 2021 à 19 h 43
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Habs live rent free in your head after the events of the beginning of the season


haha, perhaps.

I disliked the team before this season. I don't really hide my dislike for the team and a chunk of their fanbase.... absolutely some great MTL fans out there, I just don't think the vast majority has takes that are on earth. Pretty much what everybody doesn't like Toronto for, I dislike Montreal for. For whatever reason their media and fans bug me more than Toronto's
15 avr. 2021 à 9 h 48
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Quoting: Wqrrior
haha, perhaps.

I disliked the team before this season. I don't really hide my dislike for the team and a chunk of their fanbase.... absolutely some great MTL fans out there, I just don't think the vast majority has takes that are on earth. Pretty much what everybody doesn't like Toronto for, I dislike Montreal for. For whatever reason their media and fans bug me more than Toronto's


It also likely doesn’t help that their fans just make it even easier to hate them with some of the crap they say. Like there are a lot of good MTL and Toronto fans out there. But with those two fan groups there are so many that typically the bad outweigh the good.
 
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