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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 1
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Trade confirmed: Chicago Blackhawks - San Jose Sharks - Vegas Golden Knights
Détails de la transaction
Les Sharks de San Jose font l’acquisition de:
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De CHI:
Mattias Janmark (1 125 000 $ retenus - 50%) · 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $0 $
De VGK:
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (BUF - #138 - Sergei Ivanov)
Somme: 562 500 $562 500 $0 $
Variation: +562 500 $
Variation: +562 500 $
Variation: -225 000 $
Les Golden Knights de Vegas font l’acquisition de:
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
De SJS:
Mattias Janmark (562 500 $ retenus - 50%) · 562 500 $562 500 $0 $
Nick DeSimone · 0 $700 000 $225 000 $ (LAH/JR)
De CHI:
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CHI - #135 - Nikita Grebenkin)
Somme: 562 500 $562 500 $0 $
Variation: +562 500 $
Variation: +562 500 $
Variation: 0 $
Les Blackhawks de Chicago font l’acquisition de:
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De VGK:
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VGK - #62 - Colton Dach)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (VGK - #81 - Samuel Savoie)
Somme: 0 $0 $0 $
Variation: -1 125 000 $
Variation: -1 125 000 $
Variation: +110 250 000 $
12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 3
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Nice trade Stan.
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 4
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Well thanks for the 5th I guess... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 4
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Man SJS now acquires 2 basically free draft picks
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 4
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We got more for janmark than Buffalo got for Hall hahaha
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 5
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Pretty fair trade all around. Janmark is definitely a great add for VGK.
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 5
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Steal for Chicago. Just one of those picks would have been an overpay.
12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 7
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Great for Chicago, about as much as Sabres got for Hall
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 9
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I tend to be pretty hard on Bowman but that's a great trade for Chicago.
He got more than Taylor hall lol
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 17
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San Jose Sharks:

Traded away a player that should have no trade value and who you might as well place on waivers.

Got a 5th round pick for retaining 562K in salary when the Leafs got a 5th round pick for retaining 1.1 million on Lehner.

A win for San Jose.


Chicago Blackhawks:

Janmark is underated and Chicago's return is not as good compared to what New York or Detroit got at the time for Zuccarello or Nyquist.

The picks going to Chicago can't upgrade based on any conditions.

Now, you're probably thinking Janmark is not like Zucc or Nyquist, which is true.

However, centres are more important than wingers because they make plays, take faceoffs and can score points too, among other reasons.

Championship teams are more often built around their centres than around their wingers.

Chicago also spends a 5th round pick unnecessarily and retain over a million in salary.

A loss for Chicago.



Vegas Golden Knights:

Janmark's performance and production will take off, now that he's on a better team.

An underrated player who can play either on the wing or at centre, he can also play top six minutes and produce points at a good rate.

Vegas gets a 5th round pick on top.

And Janmark is brought in at a cap hit of only 562K and it only cost a 2nd and 3rd.

Wow!

Big win for Vegas!



In Vegas we trust!

I voted for the Vegas Golden Knights.
12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 21
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Quoting: sensonfire

Now, you're probably thinking Janmark is not like Zucc or Nyquist, which is true.
However, centres are more important than wingers because they make plays, take faceoffs and can score points too, among other reasons.


Just as an FYI...Janmark is a winger. Not a center. Hasn't played center 1 time for the Hawks....nor the past 2 years with Dallas either. Janmark has a total of 16 ATTEMPTS at the dot. He usually isn't even the 2nd option when the center gets tossed.
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 23
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Just as an FYI...Janmark is a winger. Not a center. Hasn't played center 1 time for the Hawks....nor the past 2 years with Dallas either. Janmark has a total of 16 ATTEMPTS at the dot. He usually isn't even the 2nd option when the center gets tossed.


Why would capfriendly label him as a centre then?
12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 24
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Quoting: sensonfire
San Jose Sharks:

Traded away a player that should have no trade value and who you might as well place on waivers.

Got a 5th round pick for retaining 562K in salary when the Leafs got a 5th round pick for retaining 1.1 million on Lehner.

A win for San Jose.


Chicago Blackhawks:

Janmark is underated and Chicago's return is not as good compared to what New York or Detroit got at the time for Zuccarello or Nyquist.

The picks going to Chicago can't upgrade based on any conditions.

Now, you're probably thinking Janmark is not like Zucc or Nyquist, which is true.

However, centres are more important than wingers because they make plays, take faceoffs and can score points too, among other reasons.

Championship teams are more often built around their centres than around their wingers.

Chicago also spends a 5th round pick unnecessarily and retain over a million in salary.

A loss for Chicago.



Vegas Golden Knights:

Janmark's performance and production will take off, now that he's on a better team.

An underrated player who can play either on the wing or at centre, he can also play top six minutes and produce points at a good rate.

Vegas gets a 5th round pick on top.

And Janmark is brought in at a cap hit of only 562K and it only cost a 2nd and 3rd.

Wow!

Big win for Vegas!



In Vegas we trust!

I voted for the Vegas Golden Knights.




I've seen you post multiple times now... Lehner hasn't been traded he is still with Vegas... Dubnyk was traded, but the the sharks didn't retain any salary. But yes still a win for san jose all the trades they have done are basically cap or players who weren't going to be worth anything for picks so win all around, but not Lehner.
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12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 29
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SJS got fleeced. Like 400k of cap space is trending at about a 4th right now through several trades.

They retained 560k and only got a 5th.
12 avr. 2021 à 15 h 31
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Janmark has looked decent before, but his fancy stats were horrific this year. VGK easily could've given lower picks.
12 avr. 2021 à 16 h 17
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Sharks legends Mattias Janmark, Nick Foligno and Mike Hoffman. Stats won't be revealed, because it's too soon.
Sharks win because I want them to lmao
But really the Blackhawks win getting a premium haul for a middle sixer
12 avr. 2021 à 16 h 18
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Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
Man SJS now acquires 2 basically free draft picks


They more bought draft picks for cash (and cap space). But not every owner is willing to take the 1/4 or 1/5 swing at an NHLer (much lower for impact NHLer) for a few hundred k that a 4th or 5th is
12 avr. 2021 à 16 h 55
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Quoting: sensonfire
San Jose Sharks:

Traded away a player that should have no trade value and who you might as well place on waivers.

Got a 5th round pick for retaining 562K in salary when the Leafs got a 5th round pick for retaining 1.1 million on Lehner.

A win for San Jose.


Chicago Blackhawks:

Janmark is underated and Chicago's return is not as good compared to what New York or Detroit got at the time for Zuccarello or Nyquist.

The picks going to Chicago can't upgrade based on any conditions.

Now, you're probably thinking Janmark is not like Zucc or Nyquist, which is true.

However, centres are more important than wingers because they make plays, take faceoffs and can score points too, among other reasons.

Championship teams are more often built around their centres than around their wingers.

Chicago also spends a 5th round pick unnecessarily and retain over a million in salary.

A loss for Chicago.



Vegas Golden Knights:

Janmark's performance and production will take off, now that he's on a better team.

An underrated player who can play either on the wing or at centre, he can also play top six minutes and produce points at a good rate.

Vegas gets a 5th round pick on top.

And Janmark is brought in at a cap hit of only 562K and it only cost a 2nd and 3rd.

Wow!

Big win for Vegas!



In Vegas we trust!

I voted for the Vegas Golden Knights.


This is an incredibly uneducated and uninformed analysis.
Any pick for a few hundred k in cap retention is a good deal.
Janmark is nothing more than a bottom 6 winger. He is not comparable at all to Zuc. Getting a 2nd and 3rd for a bottom 6 forward should be a win in anyone's book.
Janmark will not sniff Vegas' top 6. A 2nd, 3rd, and worse 5th is an overpay for what Janmark will contribute. Every Hawks fan was hoping to possibly get a 2nd but likely a 3rd for him.
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12 avr. 2021 à 17 h 2
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I've seen you post multiple times now... Lehner hasn't been traded he is still with Vegas... Dubnyk was traded, but the the sharks didn't retain any salary. But yes still a win for san jose all the trades they have done are basically cap or players who weren't going to be worth anything for picks so win all around, but not Lehner.


When I mentioned Lehner, I was referring to the trade that sent him to Vegas on February 24th, 2020.
12 avr. 2021 à 17 h 11
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Quoting: Hockeyplayer1
This is an incredibly uneducated and uninformed analysis.
Any pick for a few hundred k in cap retention is a good deal.
Janmark is nothing more than a bottom 6 winger. He is not comparable at all to Zuc. Getting a 2nd and 3rd for a bottom 6 forward should be a win in anyone's book.
Janmark will not sniff Vegas' top 6. A 2nd, 3rd, and worse 5th is an overpay for what Janmark will contribute. Every Hawks fan was hoping to possibly get a 2nd but likely a 3rd for him.



This trade can be looked at from multiple angles.


562K is not even minimum wage for an NHL player anymore.

That's what Vegas is going to pay Janmark for their cup run and for some reason, fringe AHL players are going to make more than Janmark.



Janmark has blossomed into a decent NHL player who mostly played over 15 minutes a night for the Hawks.

He was undervalued when he played for the Hawks and he'll be grossly undervalued when he plays for Vegas.



I think Vegas got a good player and paid a very affordable price for him because those two picks going to Chicago are going to be late.

At least one of those picks probably won't be turned into a full-time NHL player.


I'm in the minority obviously but I really like this trade for Vegas smile
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Game 7 hat trick...that probably made this trade a fair trade.
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Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
Man SJS now acquires 2 basically free draft picks


They only got one
11 juill. 2021 à 16 h 51
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They only got one


He's talking about Folingo too.
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He's talking about Folingo too.


Oh
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